Post-release Super Street Fighter 4

[electric]

Nice info Weazzy - sounds like a real 50-50 unless you have EX meter or a DP

Neutral jump loses (I know this one from experience lol)

[[NIUE] weazzyefff]

ALso not sure about Guys ex tatsu. If it dont autocorrect properly you will get punish as he is too close and recovers later too.

[[NIUE] weazzyefff]

It's kinda reduntant info for me though as I've switched back to Bison U1 because:
1. U2 damage is poo haha, it's almost never a killing blow but if you land U1 it's almost always death for them haha.
2. I'm preparing for them to nerf U2 by making it a charge move so why would you not use U1, fuck having to hold a charge to punish a fireball that might never come.

Also you forgot the c Hp or s Hp trade into ultra 1. Yes you heard me people.

[electric]

Also you forgot the c Hp or s Hp trade into ultra 1. Yes you heard me people.

LOL just youtubed that - fuck that's pretty beast

Also looking at frame data, head stomp follow up links into U1... is that well known ? Never seen it before :/

[[NIUE] weazzyefff]

Does that work? I'm not sure. I been trying it but can't get it to work. YOu have to get them to walk forward and you have to be in the corner  for enough charge time. And even then it's hard cos it will only hit them once with ex one. Then it still won't link and it looks clean as too.

Maybe i keep trying.

[electric]

Does that work? I'm not sure

Yeah I've got no clue either - just can see from the numbers that it *should* work... It might need to hit late though since you have to land before you can actually throw the ultra out :/

[zos'la]

cool thanks for the info

[Lennysaurus]

More AE changes!!!

Honda
- weaker lp headbutt, top invincibility has moved to bottom half invincibility, so its harder to use as an anti air now
- super oni musou has projectile invincibility as long as its active
- orochi breaker is half circles now
- bigger grab range but the startup is now 2f
- same backdash changes as the others
- across the board his damage has been reduced

Gouken
- Firstly all his normals have been improved
- Frame advantage has been increased on close MP close HK
- Close MK has been changed to 3f
- Neutral jump HP, normal j.HK can be followed up in the air
- Normals' reach has not been changed
- Backthrow produces recoverable damage?

Rose

- Made it so you can't do an Aura Soul Spark if a Soul Spark is displayed, Super cancelling works the same though
- Soul Satellite big change(s), considering balance, the invincibility frames have been removed

Ibuki

- Changed her normals' frames slightly.
- Standing LK's startup has been changed to 4F, so its easier to use as a light
- Also, close MK's startup has been changed to 5F, so its good for using in various combos
- Kunai damage has been reduced, as has Neckbreaker's damage and stun.
- Doing a Kunai from a backjump (retreat-kunai) will drop you down
- New target combo = c.HK, st.HK, You can use it at the end of TC6
- If you get hit during her command jump, it will do counter damage
- Summary: Some of her normals and specials have been nerfed but In total, her way of use and potential is the same as before. (words of encouragement)

[electric]

The only two good things about Rose have been removed lol

That makes me kinda sad - I enjoyed broken Rose

[massi4h]

I was happy that she still had the soul spark super trap.

But wow they really shat on Honda. I'm reading oh look they increased range on U2 yay, oh now it's a 2 frame startup so bye bye. I mean you can't even do the awesome hands fadc ultra now because they get 2 frames to jump. It's only gonna be used to punish things. But I guess U1 can actually anti fireball now which is good. Gouken got a decent buff though.

[karizzma]

I like these changes. Rose needed them badly.

[electric]

Lol Josh - at least she'll still have her back dash I guess :/

NEXT WEEKS CHARACTERS

Blanka, Abel, Gen, and Makoto

[LN]

I actually think those changes are reasonable.

Still salty about Vega though.

[CrazyMobius]

Waiting...

[massi4h]

Actually I remember hearing that they were gonna remove throw invincibility from Rose's cl.mk. They didn't mention it though so maybe not?