Coping with Lag/The lack thereof

[deprenyl]

played some tekken on the giga tv's with some mates last night, we're all complete scrubs with no knowledge of frame delay and such (apart from me, im just a scrub who knows a little about it by reading posts here lol) and was quite surprised when they were complaining that the controllers felt laggy/were possibly faulty and they were dropping combos.

[HoneyBadger]

PS3 is da worst =_=;; Nobody I know can play Tekken on PS3 on giga tvs

[fluxcore]

Since 720p = 1280x720 and 1080p = 1920×1080, in other words if you hook it up to a LCD monitor no matter the brand which support these resolution native, that would mean no up-scaling required and thus nearly lag free?

Unfortunately not - while upscaling is usually the culprit for input delay, any form of image processing can introduce delay. And computer monitors still have image processing :/

For instance some of the Dell monitors have upwards of 50ms input delay, although they are more catered towards colour reproduction for graphic designers.

If you tell me the brand and model number of your panel I can probably have a hunt to see if there's any info about it, but no manufacturer reports input delay so it's entirely up to people doing the stopwatch tests to report results :/

[zos'la]

Can anyone check VW24H assus

[fluxcore]

If you mean the VW246H, it's the same monitor as the VK246H just without the webcam.

http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/review/2009/review-asus-vk246h-part12.html#Lag

Of 100 pictures, about 95 percent demonstrated no input lag. The remainder demonstrated an input lag of about two frames (~33 ms). This gives rise to an average input lag of 1,65 ms, which is an outstanding value, even for a TN panel. Despite this, however, there is still the 5 percent chance of a two-frame lag.

[zos'la]

oic, yeah well thats what I use at home with my ps3 ><
guess it aint that bad after all

[fluxcore]

They don't mention which resolution the input is at, since you're playing on ps3 it STILL could be the case that it has a poor upscaler from 720p that introduces input delay. You could probably test that if the monitor has some kind of 1:1 pixel aspect option (i.e. the 720p video would NOT stretch to fill up the entire monitor - you'd have black bars top/bottom and sides).

[Lennysaurus]

Hey Alan can you chek out this monitor for me?

Asus H8O4M1O

[Pjai]

what abt Acer S243HL?

[fluxcore]

I'm no mystical guru of input delay, all I do is a google search

[Lennysaurus]

I'm no mystical guru of input delay, all I do is a google search

No seriously... I think you want to check out the H8O4M1O model... I have a feeling you'll like it heaps Alan...

Tee hee....

[[NIUE] BIRRY WONG]

Pretty sure thats the model Richard uses at home.

[[NIUE]iRONSoL]

im pretty sure he uses the ASUS U1M0E2H9A7L3A