Oh gay, was too late i think to even try.
AND DOES ANYONE BELIEVE THIS MARK CHATERIS GUY????? HE IS ABSOLUTELY FUCKING RIDICULOUS WITH HIS COMMENTS AY.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000917469070&v=wall&story_fbid=150763128297602&ref=notif¬if_t=feed_comment#!/group.php?gid=134108349968273&v=wall&story_fbid=136896243022817&ref=notif¬if_t=feed_comment
Quote from: [NYC] weazzyefff on September 26, 2010, 12:24:17 AM
Oh gay, was too late i think to even try.
AND DOES ANYONE BELIEVE THIS MARK CHATERIS GUY????? HE IS ABSOLUTELY FUCKING RIDICULOUS WITH HIS COMMENTS AY.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000917469070&v=wall&story_fbid=150763128297602&ref=notif¬if_t=feed_comment#!/group.php?gid=134108349968273&v=wall&story_fbid=136896243022817&ref=notif¬if_t=feed_comment
He's just got a different view on stuff I guess. It's a bit annoying that he is flaming NZism up, cause tbh alot of us have put some pretty hard work into getting this going and running events.
Ah well, couldn't come tonight guys! Hope you had fun!
Very disappointed with how he has handled things tbh.
Even just the fact that his group is private is pretty sad - I thought the idea was to get people together.
That dude has got to be the biggest douchebag in the country. Not to mention the fact that he went to EVO and decided to tell everyone there he was like, the man behind the New Zealand fighting game scene.
I dont often hate someone ive never even met before, but charteris sure as fuck doesnt do himself any favours.
SNAKE BIIIIIIIITES :D
Someone wanna post that comment here? I can't see squat.
Quote from: Rorooze on September 26, 2010, 12:03:45 PM
Someone wanna post that comment here? I can't see squat.
me either
I can't see anything anymore either. I thought he just somehow banned me from it after i tried to explain that he should work with us.
I can't even remember what he said cos i was drunk aswell.
I said he should post his barfights thing that's gonna happen. I was thinking of going to it in New plymouth. But he said he did post it on here and no-one helped him which is total rubbish.
He was spinning a bit of shit about us too.
leave it to you cunts to turn a topic about getting drunk into bitching about mark charteris.
Wow he sends long as article like messages . This is one he sent me. I can't believe this guy doesn't realise he's sabotaging the Taranaki scene as well as the entire NZ scene. What a dick. Laughing with his so called 'American friends' that we are crap cos we don't stream, lmfao.
This guy deserves a big NZism fuck you very much.
QuoteNo offence but I am creating Taranaki's own sf community, and yourself participating in barfights is only going to show that taranaki is free and nothing more, being barfights only purpose is to attract the online sf players who are most likely free to particpate in this event so we can bring about a community because as you have read my forums posts in the past New Plymouth DOES NOT HAVE A SF3 OR SF4 ARCADE MACHINE so its makes it nigh on impossible to attract players and I have absolutely no idea how big my community is, so as I mentioned this is Taranaki SF Barfights so for auckland to take it would make Taranaki salty being this will be the first time eva the new plymouth sf community will assemble so for yourself or someone outside of New Plymouth to take the money being you have a arcade and have had plenty of tournaments is no way to start a sf community in my town.
But as mentioned before the 2nd event taranaki has which is The Last Street Fighter which is keeping with The Last Samurai being that it was filmed in Taranaki and in the park which happens to be the place we are doing this 2nd event yes in the park is welcome to Taranaki and everyone in New Zealand as its a free event and able to play on the big lawn with a huge screen to project streetfighter on something me and sam are organizing with the newplymouth council.
So get salty about Barfights or abuse me on the forums or amongst your fellow NZism members I really dont care, because I am doing this for Taranaki this event not New Zealand. So let me build my community then eventually New Plymouth will go to war with rest of New Zealand then think about streams so we can show that New Zealand aint free and get word out to the international sf community that infact New Zealand is worth the trip for players like Daigo and Justin Wong, because New Zealand aint even on the map for Streetfighter and people in America and other countries never heard of New Zealand having a SF community, they had heard of Australia thanks to Human Bomb and Jacku hard work on Ozhadou to put Australia on the map hence getting Daigo and Justin wong to even consider visting Australia something NZism should think about working on the marketing side and get the word out there as the NZism community is limited if they only just verse each other and only 3 new zealanders ever fly over to australia to represent or get sf experience from international communties.
But if NZism aint going to bring about International offline versing, then I will have to work with my mates from EVO to bring about change and get NZ on the map for a SF community, as I have alot of mates from the SF community that I chat to alot and only by attending EVO I got to establish that yes NZ does have a community but many said why doesnt NZism do streams on Justin.tv or other sites to show what NZ is about, many said probably because NZ level was way to low and would be embrassing which I agreed with, because if that wasnt the case then you could show the world and take the messages from trolls.
But something to think about, and this will most likely be dicussed or trolled by the rest of NZism which I really dont get a f*ck if that happens because I helping out to establish my own community then eventually Taranaki might look to verse Auckland and other cities in New Zealand but until then I must actually establish a community first something NZism has failed to recognise being that your situtation is to sweet with your yiffans starting point to establish a point to meet players then work from there.
I think he should just actually talk to one of us in person before getting mad salty like that.
I don't want to sound like a cock, but in reality the only person that knows what has happened behind the scenes for each and every NZism event is me. All the things he has mentioned we have given some thought to and considered/attempted to put into place at some point or another.
TBH what he is talking about in that message we are trying to do, but it is a long-term vision that will take many other things to fall into place in order for it to happen. I would actually be interested in talking to him just for the sheer fact that if he has a plan or strategy that can pull that stuff off better than what we are doing now, I would love to see/hear it.
I thought the fact that we had 3 guys go over to play for NZ was mean, this guy is making it sound as if it was a pretty shitty effort. I don't know how we could have sent more over, given that two of the people that went paid for their own plane ticket.
The guy is just on a completely different planet. As far as I can tell he is really salty just because Auckland "has it easy" because of yifans. Retarded. Any advice we tried to give him was "terrible" purely because we "didn't get it" because "you have yifans". Ugh.
He needs to take a page outta Munta's book :P
I'd say. I've never played a single game at Yifans in my life!!!
I just play online. And sometimes when we meet up for games at other venues. But mostly onlline lmao.
And yeah some guys here, actually got to play Daigo. Flip, has NZ even been that for ever?
Wow. Punctuation please. Besides that, hes talking a load of rubbish. When he posted here about his thing a while back, he got a shitload of advice. It was still early days for us at that point as well though. If he legitimately wanted some insight into what hes doing, he should come and ask. Especially now that we have a few events under our belt and can give him some really good insight. If he doesnt want us going down there and making them look 'free' then fine. I get that. But by not talking to us, hes alienating his 'community' from the bigger picture and hes holding it back.
Look at Christchurch. Thats an awesome example of what hes trying to do. I realise he has dreams of something ultimately grander, but he doesnt seem to understand that he needs to grow things slowly or it just isnt going to work.
NZism is an awesome resource for this sort of thing. He's shooting himself in the foot by not using it. Not only that, but unless he stops acting the way he is, then noone is going to take him, OR his community seriously. Im sure if he had a decent conversation with Lenny, or even Munta, it might open his eyes a bit.
What hes trying to do is awesome. No doubt. And youve got to have respect for that. But the way he is acting and going about it is a massive hindrance to his plan.
As for Weazzy, you may not be the best person to be dealing with him, given that he will probably grate on you more than me and smoof do. Despite the fact that youre 100% correct and the dude needs a kick upside the head to get the point across anyway, i have a feeling if you keep talking to him, youre just gonna get more annoyed, he's gonna get the wrong idea, and shit just aint gonna mix.
(HAHAHA there used to be a wikipedia page about him made by people on SRK. Looks like MC has deleted it, because it was ALL people hating on him.)
Very few of us even play at yifans regularly. He needs to actually TALK TO US before he makes retarded assumptions.
Eventually if his separate sf community grows it will end up playing the same people anyway. Because they are the best NZ has to offer.
I really don't need to say anything, you only have to read anything he says to understand how difficult it is dealing with him.
I'm very proud of what NZ has accomplished, maybe he thinks it's jack shit but I don't care. We're working towards something here, and in case he didn't notice, Australia not only has a bigger scene, but has been around A LOT longer than we have. It's hardly surprising they are doing things we are not. One day, maybe we'll be there too. As it is, we're taking it day by day and trying to get more things going each time. Nats this year was the first time we've tried to run multiple events concurrently, and it went pretty well. Next time maybe we'll have something else up our sleeve too.
As for streaming... NZ has 3rd world internet. We can't stream for shit. If we did, it would be expensive, and also there would be about 5 people watching. If no-one else even knows our scene exists, why would they watch? The circular reasoning is baffling to say the least. Also we did discuss it before nats, so it's really not like we're not trying to further things here.
As a final word, Christchurch. Big whoop they have one arcade with a bootleg SF4 machine in it - that wasn't what actually got people together and forming a scene. That wasn't what led someone to fly up to Auckland for the Nats - it was the people, and the inclusiveness of it all. What Mark seems to be trying for is as insular and exclusive a gathering as is possible - and I think that's just wrong. Just look at how he's talking about 'going to war' with Auckland - it's like he's trying to form a gang, not a scene.
And it's definitely not because members of NZism didn't try to help him. It takes two to have a conversation, and talking to him was like headbutting a wall. While I wish him the best with his 'crusade', I can't help but think he's going about it entirely the wrong way, and feel that it's actually pretty sad.
BIRRYWONG
I'm sure there are like web archive sites that will have that backed up, surely. Google time.
Nothing. He doesnt exist, except on facebook. :(
That being said, my google skills are pretty low tier.
He not only had a derogatory SF4 wiki entry, he even had a rule written about him in some Californian tournament.
It went roughly as follows:
"Volcano stage is not banned, but anyone who picks it must add Mark Charteris to their facebook friends"
http://shoryuken.com/calendar.php?do=getinfo&day=2010-4-17 (search for Mark Charteris)
Ok. Im never picking that stage again. Fuck. Now i get what smoof was talking about.
LMFAO at that rule. the article above that one exposed his psn id - taranaki_is_free, hahahahahahahahahahahaah.
Oh and yeah, i tried not to rage at him ay. I think he should just be our friend and not aan angry little man wasting his time lol.
Quote
What marketing are you doing to get the word out to the world that NZ does infact actually have a SF community, and are there only 3 people in the entire NZism worthy of competiting with Australia. You need to work with Jacku of OZhadou on marketing NZism so the world knows that NZ exists and we do infact have a community and are a viable country for Daigo and Justin Wong to visit, or will it still be just NZ vs NZ matches over and over again and only 3 people in NZism will make the effort to venture to Australia to compete internationally. I was at EVO so I made the journey to get there unlike anyone in NZism who supposedly fighting games are there beloved hobby, and said I am from New Zealand and they where like oh shit I never knew NZ had a SF community that is bad part of NZism not marketing to the world like Ozhadou that there is a SF community in the Oceania other than just Australia, so work on marketing NZism better and then eventually you may get J Wong and Daigo and other top players arriving for heavens sake even Sweden had gootecks venture over there plus Ryan Hart attended there tournament.
Oh weazzy man, you gotta stop posting that shit he is saying or I'm going to ragequit.
The two guys that won nationals didn't even go to aussie. And this mark guy didn't even come and support our nationals. but he went to evo. what a knob. he is so completely uninformed, it's retarded.
Also, it probably cost less for ryan hart to get a return flight to sweeden than it cost nick4now to travel from chch to auckland return. not sure wtf is going on in this guys head. I don't think he understands basic financial literacy or economics either.
ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
That quote makes me so fucking mad. He has got NO FUCKING IDEA.
Im giving serious thought to calling out charteris on SRK. Posting all this shit up, and doing the BIRRY WONG special and pointing out everything stupid he has said and why.
I would be money on him thinking weazzy is one of our prime admins now.
Jesus Christ this guy needs a fucking bullet.
There's not really anything to be gained by stuff like that...
Haha i dare you to bro. Not like he's of any good to us anyway.
And shit nigga, i am one of the prime admins lol.
Nah i've only said small nice things too this guy and he replies with huge rage messages that just fuck me off.
Quote from: fluxcore on September 26, 2010, 07:26:43 PM
There's not really anything to be gained by stuff like that...
Which is why its not already up there. And wont be.
He just REALLY needs a reality check. BADLY.
Gino went to Evo a couple of years ago before SFIV. You never hear about him bragging about it. Makes me :(
Somethings in life are worth going to, but people are broke here. So fuck you Mark. :(
Hey guys! Did I tell you about that time I went to evo?! That just makes me SO MUCH better'er than all of you! Yeah......
Also weazzy, just forget about Charteris. You can't talk sense into him. I tried, but shit man. He just doesn't listen to any advice, anything you say to him will just be lost so don't waste your time. I would also suspect that he has a deep hatred for NZISM now and that any people he manages to recruit he will surely tell them about nzism and how shit we are at organising a community.
Anyway. 55 More days and I can start playing games again! Woooo!
Quote from: Gino on September 26, 2010, 07:58:26 PM
55 More days and I can start playing games again! Woooo!
Sup with that?
He got the studies going on :P
LOL he got the mean countdown going on too.
Shit man I have to have the countdown going
Fucking 5 hours a day dedicated to one project, then I have my other classes and work. No fucking weekends off or anything! POWER UP!!!!!!
What gets me the most is
Quotemany said probably because NZ level was way to low and would be embrassing which I agreed with
Quoteand are there only 3 people in the entire NZism worthy of competiting with Australia
.. he hasn't even turned up to a single event yet feels he has the authority to comment on NZ's skill levels.
Thinking back on it.. the reason he's so quick to discard NZism and everything NZ has achieved is probably because he wanted to create the scene and lead stuff.. but found out the job had already been done before he ever felt like dropping Gootecks a PM asking for permission lol.
That Yifans arcade excuse is a joke, alot of us come from cities without arcades. The difference is we either work hard on getting our local communities together, or we make the effort to travel to events as playing the countries best is the most efficient way to level up.
I never really got the feeling from him that he wanted to do anything NZ-wide, it's all sounded very NP-specific from what I've heard. But what do I know, the guy's brain is a mystery to me.
>< i missed out soo much.. and a lot of hatred here lol.
calm down ladies.
lets all be friends okay?
Does this guy play online?
Nah he doesn't Rumble =(
But his psn id is -taranaki_is_free
LMFAO.
Anyways, Andy, add me on facebook. Unless you's hating aswell, cos i've tried twice already haha.
You guys might be scoffing at him now but I've heard of top secret street fighter training camps currently stationed within Mt. Taranaki itself (aka "Eggy"). I've heard of bionic finger implants for advanced 6 button plinking techniques, breeding programes, the lot.
Laugh all you want, this is serious business.
Quote from: zosla on September 27, 2010, 11:37:15 AM
>< i missed out soo much.. and a lot of hatred here lol.
calm down ladies.
lets all be friends okay?
To be honest Andy, with the amount of anger in this topic, youre probably better off just ignoring it.
Quote from: [NIUE] BIRRY WONG on September 27, 2010, 02:10:54 PM
To be honest Andy, with the amount of anger in this topic, youre probably better off just ignoring it.
Rofl.
Quote from: moose! on September 27, 2010, 01:37:12 PM
You guys might be scoffing at him now but I've heard of top secret street fighter training camps currently stationed within Mt. Taranaki itself (aka "Eggy"). I've heard of bionic finger implants for advanced 6 button plinking techniques, breeding programes, the lot.
Laugh all you want, this is serious business.
man...watta douche
he deserves punches in the groin...if only it werent a flap of skin where his groin should be.....