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Title: Street Fighter IV: How damage scaling works
Post by: fluxcore on May 10, 2009, 08:40:03 PM
http://www.eventhubs.com/guides/2009/may/09/how-combo-and-damage-scaling-works-street-fighter-iv/

Couple of interesting things I didn't know in there...
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV: How damage scaling works
Post by: [NIUE] weazzyefff on May 10, 2009, 09:18:30 PM
yeah shot that is pretty interesting. Knew it all anyway but not down to that much detail, try reading the frame data without it feeling like your doing your homework lol. man SF4's some serious shit .
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV: How damage scaling works
Post by: zos'la on May 11, 2009, 08:15:34 AM
play the game, beat the player full stop :)
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV: How damage scaling works
Post by: geneterror on May 11, 2009, 09:54:49 AM
Was interesting to find that you take less damage the more 'injured' you are. Good find bro.
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV: How damage scaling works
Post by: fluxcore on May 11, 2009, 10:23:54 AM
Quote from: geneterror on May 11, 2009, 09:54:49 AM
Was interesting to find that you take less damage the more 'injured' you are. Good find bro.

Yeah, that's been happening the whole time since World Warrior or so, but it's a lot more aggressive scaling in SF4!

The Ultra=2 hits thing explains why you get massive damage scaling just from Focus, Ultra - which I didn't understand before.
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV: How damage scaling works
Post by: [NIUE] weazzyefff on May 11, 2009, 01:24:16 PM
yeah and you pretty much never get ultra without juggling except if you can go through projectiles or balrogs dash punching etc
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV: How damage scaling works
Post by: geneterror on May 11, 2009, 02:06:17 PM
Yeah Abels Ultra goes through fireballs so if you're at half screen or less and you can predict the fireball then BAM or if you have someone cornered and you make them think you're going to jump so they dragon and you can just punish them. Abels Ultra is actually quite good for punishing other people whiffed moves/ultras.
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV: How damage scaling works
Post by: fluxcore on May 11, 2009, 02:22:27 PM
That's my biggest problem with the Seth vs Abel match, you can wail on him and kick his ass without too much trouble, and then as soon as he gets ultra you basically can't do anything, because if he hits it it's 70% of your life gone.
At least with ST the game doesn't become a snorefest for you when YOU do the damage.
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV: How damage scaling works
Post by: Lennysaurus on May 11, 2009, 02:25:00 PM
Quote from: fluxcore on May 11, 2009, 02:22:27 PM
That's my biggest problem with the Seth vs Abel match, you can wail on him and kick his ass without too much trouble, and then as soon as he gets ultra you basically can't do anything, because if he hits it it's 70% of your life gone.
At least with ST the game doesn't become a snorefest for you when YOU do the damage.

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV: How damage scaling works
Post by: fluxcore on May 11, 2009, 02:41:18 PM
*shakes fist*
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV: How damage scaling works
Post by: geneterror on May 11, 2009, 03:25:15 PM
Anyone else finshed it on Hardest, I just about had a heart attack fighting Seth. Never again, I actually enjoy all the fights up to Seth on Hardest but that guy just sux. The computer pulls some pretty cheap shit on Hardest though.
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV: How damage scaling works
Post by: CrazyMobius on May 11, 2009, 03:40:37 PM
Quote from: geneterror on May 11, 2009, 03:25:15 PM
Anyone else finshed it on Hardest, I just about had a heart attack fighting Seth. Never again, I actually enjoy all the fights up to Seth on Hardest but that guy just sux. The computer pulls some pretty cheap shit on Hardest though.

The hardest time trial is pretty tough I thought.
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV: How damage scaling works
Post by: fluxcore on May 11, 2009, 03:42:36 PM
Zangief >>> cpu on hardest
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV: How damage scaling works
Post by: [NIUE] weazzyefff on May 11, 2009, 03:43:25 PM
Quote from: geneterror on May 11, 2009, 03:25:15 PM
Anyone else finshed it on Hardest, I just about had a heart attack fighting Seth. Never again, I actually enjoy all the fights up to Seth on Hardest but that guy just sux. The computer pulls some pretty cheap shit on Hardest though.
yip check my trophies i got the one beat gouken on hardest. took me ages the hardest thing for me was the 2 perfects oh and the losing a round and starting all over again. Seth takes more damage off on cpu and takes less when you hit him, and he also has the ability to read your mind WTFlol
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV: How damage scaling works
Post by: fluxcore on May 11, 2009, 03:46:23 PM
Quote from: weazzyefff on May 11, 2009, 03:43:25 PM
yip check my trophies i got the one beat gouken on hardest. took me ages the hardest thing for me was the 2 perfects oh and the losing a round and starting all over again. Seth takes more damage off on cpu and takes less when you hit him, and he also has the ability to read your mind WTFlol

I got that one on my second try. And the only reason I didn't get it the first time was because I hadn't beaten the game with Zangief prior to that, so it didn't let me fight Gouken.
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV: How damage scaling works
Post by: [NIUE] weazzyefff on May 11, 2009, 03:50:48 PM
Quote from: fluxcore on May 11, 2009, 03:46:23 PM
Quote from: weazzyefff on May 11, 2009, 03:43:25 PM
yip check my trophies i got the one beat gouken on hardest. took me ages the hardest thing for me was the 2 perfects oh and the losing a round and starting all over again. Seth takes more damage off on cpu and takes less when you hit him, and he also has the ability to read your mind WTFlol

I got that one on my second try. And the only reason I didn't get it the first time was because I hadn't beaten the game with Zangief prior to that, so it didn't let me fight Gouken.
i did it with ryu, i never used to play with any other char
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV: How damage scaling works
Post by: [NIUE] weazzyefff on May 11, 2009, 03:51:55 PM
Quote from: weazzyefff on May 11, 2009, 03:50:48 PM
Quote from: fluxcore on May 11, 2009, 03:46:23 PM
Quote from: weazzyefff on May 11, 2009, 03:43:25 PM
yip check my trophies i got the one beat gouken on hardest. took me ages the hardest thing for me was the 2 perfects oh and the losing a round and starting all over again. Seth takes more damage off on cpu and takes less when you hit him, and he also has the ability to read your mind WTFlol

I got that one on my second try. And the only reason I didn't get it the first time was because I hadn't beaten the game with Zangief prior to that, so it didn't let me fight Gouken.
i did it with ryu, i never used to play with any other char
oh yeah and wholly fuck second try
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV: How damage scaling works
Post by: fluxcore on May 11, 2009, 04:37:00 PM
Yep, Zangief all the way. Lariats destroy the CPU completely.
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV: How damage scaling works
Post by: [NIUE] B1ackstar Ninja on May 11, 2009, 05:24:03 PM
Quote from: fluxcore on May 11, 2009, 04:37:00 PM
Yep, Zangief all the way. Lariats destroy the CPU completely.

Except against cammy . I fuckn hate fighting her with zangief
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV: How damage scaling works
Post by: fluxcore on May 11, 2009, 05:28:19 PM
Hah yeah, you have to modify your strat a bit for her... stupid cannon drill...
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV: How damage scaling works
Post by: stereomonkey on May 11, 2009, 05:57:21 PM
Change from Lariats to Focus Attacks.

Geifs FA destroys her moves except for her back hand.  Though if you see that just throw out a lariat.  Reuse and recycle baby :)
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV: How damage scaling works
Post by: [NIUE] B1ackstar Ninja on May 11, 2009, 06:36:36 PM
Quote from: stereomonkey on May 11, 2009, 05:57:21 PM
Change from Lariats to Focus Attacks.

Geifs FA destroys her moves except for her back hand.  Though if you see that just throw out a lariat.  Reuse and recycle baby :)

ah cheers stu  :)