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General Category => Tech/Hardware => Topic started by: Lennysaurus on July 29, 2010, 10:53:35 AM

Title: PS3 vs XBOX lag test
Post by: Lennysaurus on July 29, 2010, 10:53:35 AM
So it has been tested and confirmed that of the 2 consoles the XBOX lags least.  When the game is played on the same TV/Monitors  it has shown that the PS3 lags a full frame more than the XBOX version.  This could explain why some people were having trouble on the GIGA setups as well.

Here are the links to the guys on SRK that did the test:
http://shoryuken.com/f177/ps3-360-sf4-system-lag-what-definitive-answer-231128/index3.html#post8829089
http://shoryuken.com/f177/ps3-360-sf4-system-lag-what-definitive-answer-231128/index2.html#post8666219
http://shoryuken.com/f177/ps3-360-sf4-system-lag-what-definitive-answer-231128/#post8663404

Thoughts?

EDIT: Need to install me some photoshop and start drawing some premium graphs.
Title: Re: PS3 vs XBOX lag test
Post by: zos'la on July 29, 2010, 11:48:22 AM
I would take the vielix setup japanese arcade as the center line then go from there.
If what is said to be true which I also believe so with teh xbox360 being supperior in speed then we need to find a monitor which is suitable for this also to try and replica this setup as close as possible accordign to our budget? which we have NONE LOL.

P.S I've always found the PS3 slower than the xbox360 sicne the first day I played at Ben's place and then went to Giga... and even at Giga changing from the ps3 setup to teh xbox setup it feels slower, so I am pretty confident the test is pretty accurate IMO.
Title: Re: PS3 vs XBOX lag test
Post by: [NIUE] BIRRY WONG on July 29, 2010, 11:59:55 AM
(http://www.djmoya.com/wp-content/uploads/head_explode-779507.jpg)
Title: Re: PS3 vs XBOX lag test
Post by: CrazyMobius on July 29, 2010, 01:20:56 PM
Quote from: [FSR] Lenny on July 29, 2010, 10:53:35 AM

Thoughts?



Maybe let Sony know? There isn't much users can do about it.
Title: Re: PS3 vs XBOX lag test
Post by: zos'la on July 29, 2010, 02:13:12 PM
ouch Bill, that face must hurt ><
Title: Re: PS3 vs XBOX lag test
Post by: Pjai on July 29, 2010, 04:13:28 PM
Quote from: CrazyMobius on July 29, 2010, 01:20:56 PM
Maybe let Sony know? There isn't much users can do about it.

It's probably more to do with Capcom than Sony. Then again, you probably get the same issue with all cross platform games but 90% of the time it doesnt really matter. And in that 10%, 80% of the users probably wouldnt care

However, I am curious on how did he measure the 4 and 5 frame delay on each console? I could understand that he could detect an 1 frame difference between the consoles quite easily. I am quite suprised by a 4 frame lag in the console itself, tats like 70ms?  thats like the time it takes to send a packet of data to a server in NZ over NZ Adsl connection and back.
Title: Re: PS3 vs XBOX lag test
Post by: electric on July 29, 2010, 04:50:06 PM
From what I understand (admittedly, not that much) it's definitely more of a hardware issue (Sony) than a software issue (Capcom)

The PS3 scales their video output via software, whereas the 360 has a built in hardware video scaler - now because the PS3 is technically superior in terms of CPU power, they managed to produce something comparable to the 360's hardware upscaler via software - and since everyone knows that the PS3 is ridiculously priced as it is, any hardware they can leave out is a cost they don't need to pay for, or worse, make the consumer pay for.

Basically:

360 = slower CPU, but better video scaling abilities
PS3 = faster CPU, which lets them get away with video scaling that's fine 90% of the time

Of course, I could just be making this all up.
Title: Re: PS3 vs XBOX lag test
Post by: Pjai on July 30, 2010, 11:21:08 AM
maybe, but i still think things could be more optimised if the game was solely written for a single platform. O well, i m making up shits also hahaa.
Title: Re: PS3 vs XBOX lag test
Post by: B BOY DRAW2 on August 09, 2010, 11:32:40 PM
Pretty interesting clip...

Title: Re: PS3 vs XBOX lag test
Post by: fluxcore on August 09, 2010, 11:43:59 PM
I question the scientific method, but not the conclusion

ho ho ho
Title: Re: PS3 vs XBOX lag test
Post by: zos'la on August 10, 2010, 09:07:02 AM
you can never press teh button at teh same time unless it was computer controlled timing.
Title: Re: PS3 vs XBOX lag test
Post by: Rorooze on August 10, 2010, 09:14:33 AM
should have used programmable controllers but the result would have been the same

^_^
Title: Re: PS3 vs XBOX lag test
Post by: [NIUE] BIRRY WONG on August 10, 2010, 09:18:46 AM
^Yea. Programmable controller or otherwise, result wouldve been almost identical.
Title: Re: PS3 vs XBOX lag test
Post by: electric on August 10, 2010, 09:29:25 AM
Terribly unscientific method as the XBOX homo's army has stated... HDMI on the PS3 for one is a crock of shit

In saying that, I don't doubt the legitimacy of these lag claims - PS3 sucks nuts for Street Fighter 4 on anything other than a CRT. Plain and simple.
Title: Re: PS3 vs XBOX lag test
Post by: [NIUE] BIRRY WONG on August 10, 2010, 09:38:25 AM
Quote from: electric on August 10, 2010, 09:29:25 AM
PS3 sucks nuts for Street Fighter 4

I think we all concur.
Title: Re: PS3 vs XBOX lag test
Post by: fluxcore on August 10, 2010, 10:06:26 AM
PS3 sucks nuts for SF4 on a crt as well, actually. Read the links in the first post.
Title: Re: PS3 vs XBOX lag test
Post by: CrazyMobius on August 10, 2010, 10:15:55 AM
Yeah PS3 sucks compared to Xbox. This has been proven many times. Now let's all just move on with our lives.
Title: Re: PS3 vs XBOX lag test
Post by: electric on August 10, 2010, 10:18:15 AM
Quote from: fluxcore on August 10, 2010, 10:06:26 AM
PS3 sucks nuts for SF4 on a crt as well, actually. Read the links in the first post.

I'm somehow hoping that PS3 + CRT = 360 + LCD lol
Title: Re: PS3 vs XBOX lag test
Post by: fluxcore on August 10, 2010, 10:19:10 AM
Quote from: CrazyMobius on August 10, 2010, 10:15:55 AM
Yeah PS3 sucks compared to Xbox. This has been proven many times. Now let's all just move on with our lives.

You don't think it helps to understand why people feel the giga setups are different to their own? Or how to get the best setup available?
Title: Re: PS3 vs XBOX lag test
Post by: fluxcore on August 10, 2010, 10:20:20 AM
Quote from: electric on August 10, 2010, 10:18:15 AM
I'm somehow hoping that PS3 + CRT = 360 + LCD lol

Well, it can if the lcd is not particularly good... I don't think that's a very useful comparison though
Title: Re: PS3 vs XBOX lag test
Post by: CrazyMobius on August 10, 2010, 10:26:06 AM
Quote from: fluxcore on August 10, 2010, 10:19:10 AM
You don't think it helps to understand why people feel the giga setups are different to their own? Or how to get the best setup available?

Yes but everyone already knows this. It's been talked to death. XBox is better end of story.
Title: Re: PS3 vs XBOX lag test
Post by: [NIUE] BIRRY WONG on August 10, 2010, 10:27:49 AM
Quote from: CrazyMobius on August 10, 2010, 10:26:06 AM
Yes but everyone already knows this. It's been talked to death. XBox is better end of story.

BUT WE NEED TO ARGUE MORE
Title: Re: PS3 vs XBOX lag test
Post by: samurai black on August 10, 2010, 11:31:41 AM
ps3 is fiiiiiiiiiiine
Title: Re: PS3 vs XBOX lag test
Post by: Skullator on August 10, 2010, 11:34:09 AM
Quote from: samurai black on August 10, 2010, 11:31:41 AM
ps3 is fiiiiiiiiiiine

yeeeee