Quote from: Orochi on May 25, 2010, 04:07:47 AM
Cheers for the games Lenny! I just have to work out my direction of blocking against kunai crossups : D
Always block Ibuki (not the kunai) - same goes for Dhalsims U1 then teleport shenanigans, Akumas instant air fireball on wakeup and any other "I'll throw something on this side, then go to the other side you get super confused and rage quit" bullshit lol
Quote from: electric on May 25, 2010, 08:56:26 AM
Always block Ibuki (not the kunai) - same goes for Dhalsims U1 then teleport shenanigans, Akumas instant air fireball on wakeup and any other "I'll throw something on this side, then go to the other side you get super confused and rage quit" bullshit lol
Yeah thats pretty much the ticket, although it can be hard depending on when the kunai is hitting, and when the opponent is crossing over etc etc.
Quote from: electric on May 25, 2010, 08:56:26 AM
Always block Ibuki (not the kunai) - same goes for Dhalsims U1 then teleport shenanigans, Akumas instant air fireball on wakeup and any other "I'll throw something on this side, then go to the other side you get super confused and rage quit" bullshit lol
That 'always block ibuki' is not always the case. In the instance where Ibuki has crossed you up BEFORE the kunai has hit you, then it remains true, but if the kunai hits before she is over you, you need to block the kunai in one direction, and ibuki in the other direction.
Quote from: ILL_BILL on May 25, 2010, 11:18:11 AM
That 'always block ibuki' is not always the case. In the instance where Ibuki has crossed you up BEFORE the kunai has hit you, then it remains true, but if the kunai hits before she is over you, you need to block the kunai in one direction, and ibuki in the other direction.
What I meant was that when the kunai hits you, if you aren't blocking appropriately for the side Ibuki is on then you'll get hit - unless I'm misunderstanding you lol
You are. Ibuki has two basic kunai mixups. (more than 2 actually, but the way you block is one of 2 ways)
1) she crosses you up before the kunai hits, in which case, you need to block from her direction, because she turns you around, and if youre trying to block the other way (ie, blocking the kunai), you dont go into 'block mode' as it were. so the kunai from behind you, hits you in the front.
2) she doesnt cross you up before the kunai hits. Here, you block the kunai, and then AFTER you block the kunai, you need to adjust your block to block whatever ibuki is doing.
Quote from: ILL_BILL on May 25, 2010, 01:47:35 PM
You are. Ibuki has two basic kunai mixups. (more than 2 actually, but the way you block is one of 2 ways)
1) she crosses you up before the kunai hits, in which case, you need to block from her direction, because she turns you around, and if youre trying to block the other way (ie, blocking the kunai), you dont go into 'block mode' as it were. so the kunai from behind you, hits you in the front.
2) she doesnt cross you up before the kunai hits. Here, you block the kunai, and then AFTER you block the kunai, you need to adjust your block to block whatever ibuki is doing.
Gotcha - but I think we're still talking about the same thing lol... good post though, so I'll leave it at that so as not to derail some more
I'm almost positive that if she hits you with the kunai before crossing you up she doesn't have enough time to combo anyway. So that's a straight out of the vortex almost.
Quote from: massi4h on May 25, 2010, 03:10:43 PM
I'm almost positive that if she hits you with the kunai before crossing you up she doesn't have enough time to combo anyway. So that's a straight out of the vortex almost.
Nah she can hit yuo with the kumai and not crossup and still combo, or she can hit you, with the kunai then crossup and combo you.
No I meant when she is doing a cross up but the kunai landed before she got over you, then she lands on the other side and is unable to combo cause the kunai hit too early. Or is that what you meant too?
Quote from: massi4h on May 25, 2010, 04:01:18 PM
No I meant when she is doing a cross up but the kunai landed before she got over you, then she lands on the other side and is unable to combo cause the kunai hit too early. Or is that what you meant too?
If its off a super jump, she can combo, but if its off a normal jump, she cant i think.