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Title: Sagat the over powered ass kicker....
Post by: DVS on September 17, 2009, 02:20:28 PM
Well it's not news to anybody really...but fuck Sagat is a power house man!!! :o

I was just down at Yifans and watching Budafist tear it up with Sagat...meat and potatoe combos take a shit load off! 14 wins later...he's smoking everybody left right and centre....geez.... :-\

For Capcom to admit that the balancing is swayed to Sagat is also sumthing....

Fuck you Sagat and your tiger shots....rebalance anyone?  ::)
Title: Re: Sagat the over powered ass kicker....
Post by: [NIUE] BIRRY WONG on September 17, 2009, 02:23:58 PM
Its lame eh? El Fuerte works his ass off to get Sagat down to 50%, and then 3 hits later (J.hk, c.mk, TIGER UPPERCUT) the match is even again. >_>

You need to abuse his height. It means a LOT of crossups work against him that wouldnt against other characters.
Title: Re: Sagat the over powered ass kicker....
Post by: electric on September 17, 2009, 02:25:34 PM
The ONLY issue I have with Sagat is the fact that he just does too much damage for someone with a ridiculous zoning game. His reversal options aren't exactly the best, so once you score a knock down, if you can keep the pressure on, you should be alright. If he does end up getting nerfed in SF4:Dash, the only change I would expect is a slight damage reduction.
Title: Re: Sagat the over powered ass kicker....
Post by: budafist on September 17, 2009, 05:40:21 PM
haha, I used to hate overpowered Sagat, now I just use him ;)
yeah pretty crazy, Im used to getting my Ken whipped at lunchtime. instead I was there for an hour and a half (and late back to work)

I'm not even good with him.

yeah Sagat is balls-deep unbalanced
Title: Re: Sagat the over powered ass kicker....
Post by: CptMunta on September 17, 2009, 06:24:00 PM
Sagat isn't too bad a match up if you're around footsie range or up close. She's lucky enough to have a nice bag of tricks to outpoke him.

Aw, but you have to get in first.....

And crappy damage output vs his vitality means you have to hit him 3 times as much....

And you can't get hit.

Title: Re: Sagat the over powered ass kicker....
Post by: pookychoo on September 17, 2009, 07:37:23 PM
i dont mind how he plays, just does a bit too much damage i think. but im no expert
Title: Re: Sagat the over powered ass kicker....
Post by: budafist on September 18, 2009, 12:12:14 AM
and why did they have to give him the best focus attack in the game?
on top of all his badass manhandling
Title: Re: Sagat the over powered ass kicker....
Post by: [NIUE] BIRRY WONG on September 18, 2009, 01:45:25 AM
Quote from: budafist on September 18, 2009, 12:12:14 AM
and why did they have to give him the best focus attack in the game?
on top of all his badass manhandling

Its not the best imo. Youre just comparing it to Ken's, which blows ass.
Title: Re: Sagat the over powered ass kicker....
Post by: geneterror on September 18, 2009, 07:34:19 AM
Yeah Bison, Chun, Vega all have a better focus than Sagats.
Title: Re: Sagat the over powered ass kicker....
Post by: [8-----D] Toots on September 18, 2009, 07:51:02 AM
It probably is the best when you take into account his vitality, damage output after a successful focus and the fact its the fastest in the game.
Title: Re: Sagat the over powered ass kicker....
Post by: HoneyBadger on September 18, 2009, 09:03:25 AM
Yeah, good depends on the situation. You can't really say Chun and Vega's are better cause they're all for different situations.
Title: Re: Sagat the over powered ass kicker....
Post by: zos'la on September 18, 2009, 09:22:57 AM
actually the reason his focus seems so good is because he is tall and the focus is short therefore it comes out quicker.
Title: Re: Sagat the over powered ass kicker....
Post by: CrazyMobius on September 18, 2009, 10:44:00 AM
I think Ryu's and Akuma's are pretty good. I like how Akuma's moves his body back so can avoid hits. Personally I don't like Sagat's saving, it feels awkward and stubby to me.

Fei Long's is also insanely good.

Even Dan's!
Title: Re: Sagat the over powered ass kicker....
Post by: electric on September 18, 2009, 10:59:22 AM
Sakura's is one of the best ones IMO too, she crouches down really low, so it goes under most mid/high attacks, and it has ridiculous range as well... you just need to get used to it lol
Title: Re: Sagat the over powered ass kicker....
Post by: [NIUE] weazzyefff on September 18, 2009, 11:19:17 AM
Sagats got the fastest FA but i wouldn't say the best, you know who i thinks got the best, that under cover bitch cammy bro, it's got range vertically and horizontal and it's real deceptive.
Title: Re: Sagat the over powered ass kicker....
Post by: zos'la on September 18, 2009, 11:46:04 AM
Quote from: weazzyefff on September 18, 2009, 11:19:17 AM
Sagats got the fastest FA but i wouldn't say the best, you know who i thinks got the best, that under cover bitch cammy bro, it's got range vertically and horizontal and it's real deceptive.
you missed the down side, its slow.
Title: Re: Sagat the over powered ass kicker....
Post by: [NIUE] weazzyefff on September 18, 2009, 12:34:27 PM
True that, it still beasts though, straight up. Someone needs to post up a list on how fast they all are, cos i dont think their speed differs much besides Sagats.
Title: Re: Sagat the over powered ass kicker....
Post by: CrazyMobius on September 18, 2009, 03:48:04 PM
So when people say it's the fastest. Do they mean it charges up to level 3 the fastest or it moves the fastest when released?
Title: Re: Sagat the over powered ass kicker....
Post by: electric on September 18, 2009, 03:49:01 PM
Quote from: CrazyMobius on September 18, 2009, 03:48:04 PM
So when people say it's the fastest. Do they mean it charges up to level 3 the fastest or it moves the fastest when released?

The second one -- after release, there's less start up frames to go through before it becomes active