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General Category => Strategy => Topic started by: fluxcore on September 04, 2010, 09:19:33 AM

Title: Fighting Layer - Are you right? Are you ready?
Post by: fluxcore on September 04, 2010, 09:19:33 AM
Last night we discovered a really fun fighting game.

(http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/9320/fgtl0034zi0.png)

(http://www.arcade-history.com/images/game/832_1.png)

It's produced by Arika, same dudes that did SF EX (and hence why it includes chars like Allen and Blair).
Easy to get into, fairly interesting cast, fun moves... we had a blast.

Emulatable in MAME, runs pretty much fine.

Move List
http://www.gamefaqs.com/arcade/574680-fighting-layer/faqs/50283

Multi char basic combo vid:



Match vids playlists:
http://www.youtube.com/user/Soh85#grid/user/0164B89583B5DA5B
http://www.youtube.com/user/KeikoXTC#grid/user/154D6C018DB0B32A

General System Mechanics:

Damage is slightly random

Most chars can  mash LP for a chain combo

Jumping normals tend to flip the opponent out so they land on their feet, jumping specials knock down.

Jumping normals can be cancelled into air specials, which can then be cancelled into air supers

Air moves can be tiger knee'd

Dash with F,F or B,B
While dashing, P near the opponent switches sides.

Counters do additional damage

Throws with f+mp, b+mp, f+mk, b+mk. Some chars only have one throw.
Throw reversals must use the SAME button but the OPPOSITE direction.

f+HK and f+HP dodges into and out of the screen respectively. Slight invincibility.

Special->Super cancelling is quite lenient. Super->Super cancelling is also possible at times.

Hits can 'clash' like in BB - no damage to either character. I think LP/LK normals can't clash.

KKK works like a burst in GG or BB, interrupts an opponent's combo or throw, but also fills up your super meter! Can only be used once per match.

'EX' Reversal specials with LP+LK, MP+MK, or HP+HK when getting up. Uses 1 meter.

'Universal overhead' with LP+LK, MP+MK or HP+HK when standing. Uses no meter. Can be charged for more damage. If blocked low, staggers opponent.

It is possible to cancel some normal moves into the Universal overhead. Even though this doesn't combo, can be pretty good for strings like j.HK, cr.lk xx UOH. Cancelling a slow sweep with UOH may be useful, although doesn't seem to work for all chars.

There seems to be some kind of kara cancel possible, for instance with Blair her slide move (qcf+K) can gain additional range by kara-cancelling cr.HK before the qcf+K. Ditto with Lan's qcf+P move.
Title: Character specifics
Post by: fluxcore on September 04, 2010, 09:32:12 AM
Char specific stuff

















(http://www.arika.co.jp/product/fl/img/FL_CH12.GIF)Blair (from SF EX, hottie etc)
gameplay reel: http://www.youtube.com/user/zu4989#grid/user/BCF9EEE796A8EBD3
Combos:
j.mk (can cross up), cr.lk, cr.lk, cr.lk, qcf+K (30%)
near corner:
j.HK, cr.MP xx qcb+K, qcb+K xx qcfx2+P, mash LP, HP repeatedly really fast (60%)
- is possible to tack on LP, qcfx2+P, mash LP,HP if you land correctly for another 5% or so.
j.HK, cr.MP, xx qcb+K, qcb+K, qcb+HK, qcf+HK xx qcfx2+HK (55%)
j.HK, cr.MP xx qcb+K, qcb+K, qcb+HK, lp, lp, lp, lp (cancel first hit of uppercuts) xx qcfx2+K (45%)
j.HK, cr.MP xx qcb+K, qcb+K, qcb+HK, cr.LP, j.mk xx qcb+K, qcfx2+P (45%)
(http://www.arika.co.jp/product/fl/img/FL_CH09.GIF)Sessyu (ninja)
gameplay reel: http://www.youtube.com/user/zu4989#grid/user/5B7F06D8DF5C2A26
(http://www.arika.co.jp/product/fl/img/FL_CH07.GIF)Shang (snakestyle gloveclaw)
gameplay reel: http://www.youtube.com/user/zu4989#grid/user/E7BFE3B2F91B12A5
combovid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rne6phICnik
(http://www.arika.co.jp/product/fl/img/FL_CH06.GIF)Exodus (the grappler fag, gino's fav char ever)
gameplay reel : http://www.youtube.com/user/zu4989#grid/user/72701EE7647907D2
(http://www.arika.co.jp/product/fl/img/FL_CH03.GIF)Hong (aka hwoarang)
gameplay reel: http://www.youtube.com/user/zu4989#grid/user/6F37A7B98AF0B9E5
(http://www.arika.co.jp/product/fl/img/FL_CH01.GIF)Tetsuoooo (he punches things and has a stun headbutt)
gameplay reel: http://www.youtube.com/user/zu4989#grid/user/3D9C9442F8D4EF0F
(http://www.arika.co.jp/product/fl/img/FL_CH02.GIF)George (wears shades)
gameplay reel: http://www.youtube.com/user/zu4989#grid/user/9FC2C13A4A6C6886
(http://www.arika.co.jp/product/fl/img/FL_CH04.GIF)Lan (has rekka ken style move and divekick)
Unfortunately neither dive kick nor the air super hit high :(
gameplay reel: http://www.youtube.com/user/zu4989#grid/user/283377F9FE9850A5
Combos:
divekick, cr.lk, cr.lk, cr.mk, qcf+P, f+p xx qcfx2+P (40%)
Near corner
qcf+P, f+P xx qcfx2+P xx qcfx2 + K (fwd, fwd, up), (late) dive kick, upkicks
(http://www.arika.co.jp/product/fl/img/FL_CH08.GIF)Jigjid (???)
gameplay reel: http://www.youtube.com/user/zu4989#grid/user/80BA0A8A05B944E8
(http://www.arika.co.jp/product/fl/img/FL_CH11.GIF)Allen (somewhat shitty shoto, flaming dragon punches that rarely knock down)
gameplay reel: http://www.youtube.com/user/zu4989#grid/user/C549F8255E85652D
(http://www.arika.co.jp/product/fl/img/FL_CH10.GIF)Capriccio (weird alien with mushrooms)
gameplay reel: http://www.youtube.com/user/zu4989#grid/user/58FE4D15428044AB
combo vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lnc6wmvurCo
His cr.mp (2 hit), cr.mk combo is pretty tricky. I seem to be able to do it by the following motion:
cr.mp, cr.lp, cr.mp~cr.mk (for 3 hits, cr.lp just seems to make the combo easier).
Combos:
j.mp, cr.mp (2 hit), cr.mk xx qcf+P xx qcfx2+K, qcfx2+P
blockstring: cr.mp (2 hit), cr.mk xx qcb+P
(http://www.arika.co.jp/product/fl/img/FL_CH05.GIF)Janis (chick with knives and guns)
gameplay reel: http://www.youtube.com/user/zu4989#grid/user/A58E6640C05107E7
combo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6Pc3g4UE30
Combos:
MP Throw, qcbx2 + P
next to wall:
lp,lp,lp,lp xx qcfx2 + K, HP, MK, [LPxMKxdash, MKxqcb+P,P,P,P,P, LPxMK]xN
(http://www.arika.co.jp/product/fl/img/FL_CH13.GIF)Joe (hidden char - Boxer - think Balrog)
gameplay reel: http://www.youtube.com/user/zu4989#grid/user/95F54881DB19A0FA
(http://www.arika.co.jp/product/fl/img/FL_CH14.GIF)Clemence (hidden boss char - wrestler)
gameplay reel: http://www.youtube.com/user/zu4989#grid/user/3C83D26DFC85A91E
(http://www.arika.co.jp/product/fl/img/FL_CH15.GIF)Ajax (hidden boss char)
gameplay reel: http://www.youtube.com/user/zu4989#grid/user/0DEC39AE19BBB1DE
Title: Re: Fighting Layer - Hamilton's new favourite fighting game
Post by: moose! on September 04, 2010, 09:36:43 AM
For some reason I laughed out loud at 2:36.

Title: Re: Fighting Layer - Hamilton's new favourite fighting game
Post by: stereomonkey on September 04, 2010, 11:05:45 AM
Wednesday night fight club Alan, you in? ;)
Title: Re: Fighting Layer - Hamilton's new favourite fighting game
Post by: fluxcore on September 04, 2010, 07:22:11 PM
Check out how much info I've managed to gather about this game. More to come too, hopefully!
Title: Re: Fighting Layer - Hamilton's new favourite fighting game
Post by: stereomonkey on September 04, 2010, 09:01:48 PM
Haha, this is gonna be sweeeeeeet!!
Title: Re: Fighting Layer - Hamilton's new favourite fighting game
Post by: fluxcore on September 05, 2010, 07:50:34 PM
Wrote up a couple of discoveries today - kara cancelling normal moves into special moves, and cancelling normal moves into the UOH.
Title: Re: Fighting Layer - Hamilton's new favourite fighting game
Post by: [NIUE] BIRRY WONG on September 05, 2010, 09:10:18 PM
Fuck. You might as well be playing tekken.
Title: Re: Fighting Layer - Hamilton's new favourite fighting game
Post by: fluxcore on September 05, 2010, 09:56:50 PM
This is far more interesting because there's very little information about it.

Also it plays a lot like a SF game :P
Title: Re: Fighting Layer - Hamilton's new favourite fighting game
Post by: CptMunta on September 10, 2010, 11:31:37 PM
Good this game is finally getting some love. Bonus stage where you have to beat up a huge tiger or shark! This game is really fun. Used to muck about with it on emu. Really into the artstyle. Was published by namco I think.

Oh and the boss has a canon Jockstrap that he shoots you with while doing ballet. Weird.
Title: Re: Fighting Layer - Hamilton's new favourite fighting game
Post by: fluxcore on September 11, 2010, 09:57:48 AM
I should have know you'd like this game Marc :)

Yeah I think the art is pretty good actually. Especially Blair - I like her expression.
The sounds and announcer are just awesome too. Just a really fun game overall.