(http://www.kobayan.jp/images/arcadia/arcadia0810-05l.jpg)
An upgrade to tekken 6 has been announced, very few details available however.
http://sdtekken.com/2008/08/28/tekken-6-bloodline-rebellion-revealed/
Woo, yeah, etc.
are they gonna chuck in some new characters, like what they did with dark ressurection?
Someone said that they might throw in some new gameplay mechancis and they always chuck in new character customisations.
I have ~8.3 million G's on my Dragunov card. Probably the richest card in all NZ. And I'm on a roulette rush right now, so that means I'll only get richer... ;D I can probably buy all the new customs at once since the most expensive customs tend to be ~1 million G's.
Quote from: !DIABLO GTR! on August 30, 2008, 08:26:19 PM
Someone said that they might throw in some new gameplay mechancis and they always chuck in new character customisations.
I have ~8.3 million G's on my Dragunov card. Probably the richest card in all NZ. And I'm on a roulette rush right now, so that means I'll only get richer... ;D I can probably buy all the new customs at once since the most expensive customs tend to be ~1 million G's.
I've gained all the customs I want for my Anna, now I'm just messing about... maybe saving up money would be a good idea!
... Buuut Toothy/Materia just hog the machine and I'm not made of money.
D:
sweet, sounds awesome
what they should do is give hwoarang his military outfit back, like the one he had in t4. that shit was badass. the biker thing is lame.
T6: BR stories and stuff...
http://sdtekken.com/tekken-6/
http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=3507648#post3507648
:)
THis just in.
A preview of Tekken 6: BR in all its BS glory...
seriously...
it's full of sh!T this time... :) like flying robot women and stuff... :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys0jMaVWBsw
lolol
Quote from: fluxcore on September 19, 2008, 07:41:37 AM
lolol
OoooH yea...smashing Guitar and machine gun ...... 8) 8) 8)
The best type of robot women!
Lars Alexandersson.
GREAT NAME.
he also looks like nagase from kofmi2. thats not a good thing.
So apparently this is coming out on xbox??
Correct.
Looks like it has been just released...
And it involves awesomeness...
head bombs and chainsaws...
and sheep, yodeling as well as all of the above...
From what I hear, Julia gets nerfed more and more every game (despite not being higher than mid tier since TTT)... so I basically don't give a shit about this game...
:(
Which explains why Zarz has been overseas owning it up with Julia... :)
Seriously, the 'majority' are wrong most of the time, simply because they are scrubs and they whine like pansies... :) (In the Tekken scene's case anyway)
http://hk.youtube.com/profile?user=feichunwong&view=videos
The Julia and Bob is Zarz on all vids after the 2 on 2 tourney vids.
Look at how unfortunate overseas players are to have to face him... :)
http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=OxVuY350VjY&feature=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDScfKSU3xw&feature=channel_page
Well, the changelogs for the last 3 iterations certainly only seem to have 'removed <useful thing x>' over and over. I really hate Namco's idea of 'balancing' a game.
Videos don't really show that she has many options, anyway.
I should really stop even paying attention to Tekken, the game does almost nothing but piss me off.
I see... :)
I'v been tipped off that the game might appear next week at Timezone Queenstreet.
That would be awesome, hope this prophecy comes true. I want to start learning Hwoarang.
Game is here in wellington, news is this.
Your cards are transferable, but you get bumped down a few ranks.
You keep your money! So instant buying for the people that saved up beforehand!
No more 'NO BONUS' on the roulettes.
There seems to be hidden stages only accessible on random, one of which is a stage set in a tomato festival where there's hundreds of people all around you flinging tomatoes about the stage and pointing and laughing. I love that stage.
Alisa is too awesome! Chainsaws! I spent about 5 hours today just playing her and learning some juggles. All of her moves are great, disposable limbs, including her head! u/f+1+2 is a grab where she gives the opponent her head as a present, which explodes soon after, before her head re-assembles itself on her shoulders.
Lars is pretty cool too, very japanese superhero-like, like Zetman. Which is what my friend named his. :D
It seems Anna's f+2+3 uber-ass has been nerfed to hell, so I will have to relearn her AGAIN at another point. Maybe.
Yeah, I'm out of cash.
It seems to be a decent rule of thumb in Tekken to play as new characters, because they often seem to beoverpowered (at least until the next version, where they get the nerfstick). Note: I'm reasonably clueless about Tekken, so don't flame me too much pls :D
Capcom, it's a complete lottery. Might be near top tier, but most likely are bottom tier.
I note that most of your post is dedicated to talking about bonus games rather than T6br itself :D
Dragunov was supposedly weak in DR and blown out of proportion in 6.0... :D
I have 11.5 million G's to sepnd on character mods... ;D
XBAWKs hat guy was checking it out since I wasn't at Yifans to challenge him at BlazBlue... ;D Besides, the button on the 1P which kept on pissing me off was still misssing since Andy is probably on holiday... ;D
Match vids coming soon...
what about lars? any news on him?
Quote from: fluxcore on January 28, 2009, 08:03:45 AM
It seems to be a decent rule of thumb in Tekken to play as new characters, because they often seem to beoverpowered.
So far, Alisa is mid-tier at best, according to japan. :D
Also I was wrong about Anna's f+3+4, it's powered up MORE. They just reduced the amount of wallhits allowed, eliminating her ff+3,4,3,f+2+3 wallcombo
this is at yifans now.
Some new item mods with Dragunov if anyone is interested...
http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=3644215#post3644215
Hamilton seems to have this too. At the very least, the marquee says it is BR.
It seems that Bloodline Rebellion has done the impossible...
It's made Tekken fun again.
Quote from: fluxcore on February 02, 2009, 11:25:39 AM
Hamilton seems to have this too. At the very least, the marquee says it is BR.
That's the only part coincascade shifted... ;D
Quote from: Orochi on February 02, 2009, 03:38:47 PM
It seems that Bloodline Rebellion has done the impossible...
It's made Tekken fun again.
Good luck with the Lars and Alisa bandwagon, you're gonna need it... :D
new customs...
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/4613/47001055rq8.jpg
Supreme Ki from DBZ...
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/8859/img0587egb0.jpg
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!
http://img10.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sheepkk0.jpg
the intro movie for this game is so ridiculous. is namco trying to do an advent children or something?
Quote from: samurai black on February 04, 2009, 03:56:59 PM
the intro movie for this game is so ridiculous. is namco trying to do an advent children or something?
lol
I reckon it was more KOF... :)
Quote from: !DIABLO GTR! on February 04, 2009, 12:47:58 AM
Good luck with the Lars and Alisa bandwagon, you're gonna need it... :D
Sure I have an alisa, but I'm sticking to my Anna, who got buffed in this version :D
Tekken is now a shooting game...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jkb7a5s3gg
:)
i played it the other day~ man it feels so different, and graphics has change~~ very smooth graphics~~ before was like very pixel graphic~~ very realistic fighting game now~~ o_O
Quote from: iMagneto on February 06, 2009, 07:22:45 PM
very realistic fighting game now~~ o_O
Like how Lar's does DBZ styles and Alisa walks around holding her head in her arms... :D
Sheep stage yodeling BGM is now playing in your head manually... ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r11vmZOQsSk
http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/20090311/tk6_br.htm
A player's guide to T6BR (vids + combos, no strats)
Might be helpful/interesting to some of you?
Of course the console release is later this year, so if you're planning on picking it up, makes sense to start swotting...
The new
Tekken 6: BR 'E3 2009 Trailer'
with scenes of the new Tekken Force mini game which seems to involve choosing factions and dominating parts of the globe or something along those lines...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNjSe1m_8q4
Quote from: !DIABLO GTR! on May 30, 2009, 06:18:59 PM
The new
Tekken 6: BR 'E3 2009 Trailer'
with scenes of the new Tekken Force mini game which seems to involve choosing factions and dominating parts of the globe or something along those lines...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNjSe1m_8q4
I saw Nao San today....i thought he's in Japan...
Quote from: gunsmoke on May 30, 2009, 10:21:46 PM
Quote from: !DIABLO GTR! on May 30, 2009, 06:18:59 PM
The new
Tekken 6: BR 'E3 2009 Trailer'
with scenes of the new Tekken Force mini game which seems to involve choosing factions and dominating parts of the globe or something along those lines...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNjSe1m_8q4
I saw Nao San today....i thought he's in Japan...
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcWyxB3eO8c
I feel like a dumbarse now... :) He did a good job of staying behind the scenes...
Quote from: !DIABLO GTR! on May 31, 2009, 09:12:50 AM
Quote from: gunsmoke on May 30, 2009, 10:21:46 PM
Quote from: !DIABLO GTR! on May 30, 2009, 06:18:59 PM
The new
Tekken 6: BR 'E3 2009 Trailer'
with scenes of the new Tekken Force mini game which seems to involve choosing factions and dominating parts of the globe or something along those lines...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNjSe1m_8q4
I saw Nao San today....i thought he's in Japan...
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcWyxB3eO8c
I feel like a dumbarse now... :) He did a good job of staying behind the scenes...
U know NAO right ? I guess u have his contact number tell him to comeback to Yifan so many new game..lol
Quote from: gunsmoke on June 01, 2009, 12:17:23 AM
Quote from: !DIABLO GTR! on May 31, 2009, 09:12:50 AM
Quote from: gunsmoke on May 30, 2009, 10:21:46 PM
Quote from: !DIABLO GTR! on May 30, 2009, 06:18:59 PM
The new
Tekken 6: BR 'E3 2009 Trailer'
with scenes of the new Tekken Force mini game which seems to involve choosing factions and dominating parts of the globe or something along those lines...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNjSe1m_8q4
I saw Nao San today....i thought he's in Japan...
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcWyxB3eO8c
I feel like a dumbarse now... :) He did a good job of staying behind the scenes...
U know NAO right ? I guess u have his contact number tell him to comeback to Yifan so many new game..lol
Of course I know him... ::) I did tell him about BlazBlue and such, but he wasn't interested.
Quote from: !DIABLO GTR! on June 01, 2009, 01:01:58 PM
Quote from: gunsmoke on June 01, 2009, 12:17:23 AM
Quote from: !DIABLO GTR! on May 31, 2009, 09:12:50 AM
Quote from: gunsmoke on May 30, 2009, 10:21:46 PM
Quote from: !DIABLO GTR! on May 30, 2009, 06:18:59 PM
The new
Tekken 6: BR 'E3 2009 Trailer'
with scenes of the new Tekken Force mini game which seems to involve choosing factions and dominating parts of the globe or something along those lines...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNjSe1m_8q4
I saw Nao San today....i thought he's in Japan...
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcWyxB3eO8c
I feel like a dumbarse now... :) He did a good job of staying behind the scenes...
U know NAO right ? I guess u have his contact number tell him to comeback to Yifan so many new game..lol
Of course I know him... ::) I did tell him about BlazBlue and such, but he wasn't interested.
Hmmmmm donno wot up is he doing these days? he Quit? Tell him Ben say come to play Senkogu Basara man...is awsome.... ::)
holy shit I suck at this game.
One of the guys that works at TZ in wellington was hecka nice last night, taught me some shit with Miguel and I even lucked out and got 100k gold on a roulette from him.
The game feels super aggressive, but at $2.50 or $2.10 or whatever the game is it's a really really offputting expensive learning curve.
Anyone got any reccomendations on things in T5Dr that are good practice for T6? I fucked with Anna a bit just to figure out on timing on juggles in Tekken cause it's so different from 2d.
And anyone think there is anyone in DR similiar ish to Miguel that it would be worth mucking round with at home?
Quote from: boringryu on June 06, 2009, 07:56:31 PM
And anyone think there is anyone in DR similiar ish to Miguel that it would be worth mucking round with at home?
Unfortunately, the answer is no...
But try performing combos with Steve. If you can get his combos, Miguel's combos should be no problem.
The new official Tekken 6 BR website...
http://www.tekken.com
After seeing that footage from the Devastation tournament, I'm actually kinda interested in this game now... some mad rape possible by the looks!
I've still got $130 on my TZ card after that tournament money from SFIV, so I think I might spend it trying to learn this a bit.
Julia has been my girl right from the start, but she's changed a bit from the few games I played today! No CH 121 launch for a start O_o
I pretty much came when I saw if you pre ordered from gamestop you got a CTS outfit for Yoshimitsu... I love Penny Arcade
Quote from: fluxcore on June 23, 2009, 08:47:56 PM
After seeing that footage from the Devastation tournament, I'm actually kinda interested in this game now... some mad rape possible by the looks!
I've still got $130 on my TZ card after that tournament money from SFIV, so I think I might spend it trying to learn this a bit.
Julia has been my girl right from the start, but she's changed a bit from the few games I played today! No CH 121 launch for a start O_o
wanna share some if i drive down haha
if you're a fucking beast at tekken and want to teach me sure :)
No lying now!
anyone entering the 2v2 tourny at TZ? lol
I don't actually know anything about it, is there a link somewhere for more info?
I did see a flyer up in TZ yesterday, but didn't enquire. Guess I should have really considering I'm supposed to cover all tourneys...
Quote from: Destiny_Ignition on June 24, 2009, 05:17:56 PM
anyone entering the 2v2 tourny at TZ? lol
I thought it already happened, guess I was wrong.
Quote from: fluxcore on June 23, 2009, 08:47:56 PM
After seeing that footage from the Devastation tournament, I'm actually kinda interested in this game now... some mad rape possible by the looks!
I've still got $130 on my TZ card after that tournament money from SFIV, so I think I might spend it trying to learn this a bit.
Julia has been my girl right from the start, but she's changed a bit from the few games I played today! No CH 121 launch for a start O_o
LOL WAT?!
I KNOW! CH 121 launch was basically her BNB!
:P
Quote from: fluxcore on June 24, 2009, 03:49:13 PM
if you're a fucking beast at tekken and want to teach me sure :)
No lying now!
dammit no not at t6.... :(
but you can always use a sparring partner hahaha
Quote from: fluxcore on June 24, 2009, 05:44:46 PM
I KNOW! CH 121 launch was basically her BNB!
:P
So you play Tekken 6 now? Dang thats cold bro.
http://www.joystiq.com/2009/06/22/tekken-6-wireless-sticks-revealed-priced/
If only it wasn't hori
What's wrong with HORI?
Quote from: !DIABLO GTR! on June 24, 2009, 10:37:59 PM
What's wrong with HORI?
Just when it comes to modding it and also their fragile PCB's
My friend modded mine and it was fine...
Just shave the plastic ring and then apply generous amounts of engine oil... : ;)
Oh, I know it's not that hard. It's just if you don't discharge all the time your bound to fry the PCB like I did. :'(
who wants to give me a game on this in yifans, :)
Tonight foo!
haha GL!!!!
you never seen me on tekken ya :)
You know why>?
because they are too naab for me!!!
lawl
TImezone Queenstreet 2 VS 2 on today from 1pm till probably 9ish...
downloading this now , might be finished by sunday if anyone wants to rock round for a game
As some of you might know, the International (or more like Oceania) Timezone Tekken Tourney took place at Armageddon Expo today.
Our very own B.G. has taken 1st place, beating out Australia's Jack in the Grand Finals.
Players posing for the camera with Mr. Harada before the round robins...
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/2864/81033131.jpg
Getting ready for the next battle... The main stage prepares for awesomeness...
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/851/75998335.jpg
Introductions for the players and Mr. Harada...
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/1516/40325362.jpg
Mr. Harada signing the prizes...
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/263/74429499.jpg
Graduation...
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/576/67929082.jpg
Get ready for the next pose...
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/6524/78050338.jpg
Yay...
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4087/35435096.jpg
More yays...
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9031/88748025.jpg
matchvids to follow soon...
p.s. We also beat Australia in the Guitar Hero Arcade Tourney.
Nice, I missed it when I was in.
But good to see NZ do well.
Match vids...
http://www.youtube.com/user/thejamesreloaded#p/u
Haven't sorted them into a playlist yet.
Will upload the rest later...
Quote from: !DIABLO GTR! on October 26, 2009, 12:07:14 PM
Match vids...
http://www.youtube.com/user/thejamesreloaded#p/u
Haven't sorted them into a playlist yet.
Will upload the rest later...
FUCKIN ADDICTED TO THIS GAME NOW!!Nice videos, the 1st semi match BG vs phillippines was the best, best steves ive seen around. All sick players love the americans king styles aswell was insane O_O
I wanted to watch the final vids, then saw 'steve vs steve' and thought I'd pass...
heh i was watching it live at the event. It got interesting after the first rounds as NZ won then second round jack took soem charges in gameplay and scared our NZ competitor... but he adapted to the gameplay and won, but was a close match!!!
Grand Final matches have been finally uploaded.
http://www.youtube.com/user/thejamesreloaded#p/c/D62C63D42BCA7B06
I played against the King player yesterday, amazing stuff. You don't get pitbull style players at the high level over here (since pitbull = suicide, especially if you have really sh!tty execution). So it was a blast playing him in pitbull VS pitbull style matches.
Thanks for the uploads! :D
So I was thinking, what is it about Tekken that makes NZ actually BEAT Australia? In pretty much every other fighting game, AU is much better.
Either:
The top NZ players spend more time overseas
Or:
Aussie is balls at this game
?
Quote from: fluxcore on October 27, 2009, 09:33:28 AM
So I was thinking, what is it about Tekken that makes NZ actually BEAT Australia? In pretty much every other fighting game, AU is much better.
Either:
The top NZ players spend more time overseas
Or:
Aussie is balls at this game
?
NZ players barely travel overseas to play... We just make observations on match vids and strategise accordingly.
Australia has heaps more better players at this game, no doubt about that.
In the end, it's the matchup and player style. Jack (who happened to use Jack-6) wasn't tuned to B.G.'s style of Steve. There is a larger spectrum of characters being used in Australia compared to here, it can't be helped if he is not familiar. Besides, the matches were close.
Jack VS Steve, Jack would have the advantage. But due to the anti-Jack training, B.G. would familiarise himself with what to do and what not to do in specific situations.
p.s. We also beat the Oz's in the Guitar Hero Arcade NZ VS Oz Tourney that day.
I wouldn't say NZ, i bet it was just that one guy, which is still beast for NZ. Damn armaggedon should of sold this game as well as Blazblue, they can get people from overseas but not games, fucking retards. There's no law about selling imported shit, for retail.
Yeah but Mason beasts almost every country at GH so it doesn't count =P + he said arcade GH was ballbagz
BG would have been fucked if he was VSin americans King with the grabing and having to break etc (frm wat ive heard :S), all the players were good aswell as all the matches, its just we have Tekken players thats all and aus cant touch shame on them. 8)
Quote from: !DIABLO GTR! on October 27, 2009, 10:01:31 AM
Australia has heaps more better players at this game, no doubt about that.
Oh, ok, so their best players weren't represented then?
Because it's pretty retarded to think that somehow NZ with its puny player base is better than Australia.
Which is why I was wondering if we have effectively 'imported talent'. It happens in other games, it's just the community isn't large enough to sustain them properly.
actually BG's (NZ player?) is pretty good at teching grabs from what I saw, well at a good %, his predictions of moves are good and timing are usually spot on when he is on a roll. But again Tekken corner base game is worst that SF4 by FAR!!!!
Quote from: weazzyefff on October 27, 2009, 10:34:30 AM
I wouldn't say NZ, i bet it was just that one guy, which is still beast for NZ. Damn armaggedon should of sold this game as well as Blazblue, they can get people from overseas but not games, fucking retards. There's no law about selling imported shit, for retail.
Livewire had a couple of BlazBlue PS3 combo packs on sale... You missed out. And Livewire is already importing the Tekken 6 packs here.
Quote from: fluxcore on October 27, 2009, 12:15:33 PM
Quote from: !DIABLO GTR! on October 27, 2009, 10:01:31 AM
Australia has heaps more better players at this game, no doubt about that.
Oh, ok, so their best players weren't represented then?
You can't make assumptions based on just ONE player. Of course their best players weren't represented, there was only ONE of them... :) We are talking in terms of the scene. In the end, its all based on player plus character matchups. It's like how the Phillipines player sent here was supposedly here because of an upset win. The favourite could've been a lot better for this tourney, but he lost to the player that was sent here. Not that I'm saying that Coffee Prinz is bad or anything.
Quote from: zosla on October 27, 2009, 12:30:14 PM
actually BG's (NZ player?) is pretty good at teching grabs from what I saw, well at a good %, his predictions of moves are good and timing are usually spot on when he is on a roll. But again Tekken corner base game is worst that SF4 by FAR!!!!
If you're starting, it's best to avoid the walls. If you have no knowledge of the opponents behaviour or characters' wall setups, you're pretty much screwed... :) It's never a pretty sight...
It was still anyones game.
I've played Tekken sicne day one of the series but never got into it competitively. But from Tekken 4 onwards, Wall games are just GG once you're stuck and the opponent knows his stuff.
Personally I knwo there are ways to get out of it but even for a great player it is difficult.
But I do enjoy Tekken as the 3D battle system really is great, actually If I had to do this competitively I could as I could possibly beat 50% of the players at Yifans? though I don't have a ps3/xbox to practice on or else I would get into this competitiveness as well :)
one funny thing I noticed is that the top 4 that were competing on the day were Asians...lol all 4!!!
Quote from: zosla on October 27, 2009, 03:17:04 PM
I've played Tekken sicne day one of the series but never got into it competitively. But from Tekken 4 onwards, Wall games are just GG once you're stuck and the opponent knows his stuff.
Personally I knwo there are ways to get out of it but even for a great player it is difficult.
But I do enjoy Tekken as the 3D battle system really is great, actually If I had to do this competitively I could as I could possibly beat 50% of the players at Yifans? though I don't have a ps3/xbox to practice on or else I would get into this competitiveness as well :)
one funny thing I noticed is that the top 4 that were competing on the day were Asians...lol all 4!!!
Im not gonna get into cultural philosophy again. But its not a surprising result really.
Quote from: zosla on October 27, 2009, 03:17:04 PM
I could as I could possibly beat 50% of the players at Yifans?
Yifans used to be the venue for the top players back in TTT, T4, T5. But due to old players retiring from Tekken and cheaper prices, Timezone is now the venue for top players.
Quote from: zosla on October 27, 2009, 03:17:04 PM
one funny thing I noticed is that the top 4 that were competing on the day were Asians...lol all 4!!!
If you wanted to be more accurate, you could call it the Koreans Overseas Tekken 6 BR competition... :)
Even the little kids watching me play on the machine were like, "All these players are Korean." And I was thinking... I wasn't Korean the last time I checked... :)
Quote from: !DIABLO GTR! on October 27, 2009, 03:51:45 PM
Quote from: zosla on October 27, 2009, 03:17:04 PM
I could as I could possibly beat 50% of the players at Yifans?
Yifans used to be the venue for the top players back in TTT, T4, T5. But due to old players retiring from Tekken and cheaper prices, Timezone is now the venue for top players.
Quote from: zosla on October 27, 2009, 03:17:04 PM
one funny thing I noticed is that the top 4 that were competing on the day were Asians...lol all 4!!!
If you wanted to be more accurate, you could call it the Koreans Overseas Tekken 6 BR competition... :)
Even the little kids watching me play on the machine were like, "All these players are Korean." And I was thinking... I wasn't Korean the last time I checked... :)
Youre also not a white dude either.
Not white/brown = Korean imo.
Quote from: zosla on October 27, 2009, 03:17:04 PM
one funny thing I noticed is that the top 4 that were competing on the day were Asians...lol all 4!!!
LOL, yeah duh, 99% of people at the arcades are asian.
And rub it in why dont ya.
This was kind of the point I was trying to make.
getting this on PS3 :)
cant wait!
there are soo many games coming out that i want to play on console... really thinkin gof getting a ps3!!!
I hope online isn't lagfest. I will christie rape!
ive heard the netcode for t6 is borked
Yeah i'm gonna wait till some reviews.
That co op looks bad, i liked tekken force in t4 better than devil within on t5, cos you could keep going through it with dif chars. I liked getting the mean run up and shoulder barging like 5 dudes.
Quote from: samurai black on October 28, 2009, 01:26:07 PM
ive heard the netcode for t6 is borked
Yes, I hear rumours of SRK's Mr Wizard and the head of TZ playing and claiming it was horrible...
Of course this doesn't effect you guys that just want to play dress up.
Quote from: Pinolicious on October 28, 2009, 12:58:07 PM
I hope online isn't lagfest. I will christie rape!
Good point bro. Online play = Eddy/Christie rape... ;D
Quote from: fluxcore on October 28, 2009, 01:49:47 PM
Quote from: samurai black on October 28, 2009, 01:26:07 PM
ive heard the netcode for t6 is borked
Yes, I hear rumours of SRK's Mr Wizard and the head of TZ playing and claiming it was horrible...
Of course this doesn't effect you guys that just want to play dress up.
Thank god, i cant wait to play dress up, i'll be the one laughing when my Kaz is g'd up from the feet up.
On my death bed in the far future my dying wish will be '' please..... capcom.....more... clothes....... for... Ryu... uhhhh....**beeeeeeeeeeeeeeepp** ''
Quote from: weazzyefff on October 28, 2009, 02:28:30 PM
Quote from: fluxcore on October 28, 2009, 01:49:47 PM
Quote from: samurai black on October 28, 2009, 01:26:07 PM
ive heard the netcode for t6 is borked
Yes, I hear rumours of SRK's Mr Wizard and the head of TZ playing and claiming it was horrible...
Of course this doesn't effect you guys that just want to play dress up.
Thank god, i cant wait to play dress up, i'll be the one laughing when my Kaz is g'd up from the feet up.
On my death bed in the far future my dying wish will be '' please..... capcom.....more... clothes....... for... Ryu... uhhhh....**beeeeeeeeeeeeeeepp** ''
Thats funny. On Andy's death bed, his dying wish is gonna be '' please..... capcom.....less... clothes...... for... Chun-Li... uhhhh....**beeeeeeeeeeeeeeepp** ''
Ha (Tekken gets so much jabs on a "all fighting game" website ???) When was the online good on any fighting game? :'(
Quote from: Will on October 28, 2009, 07:07:34 PM
Ha (Tekken gets so much jabs on a "all fighting game" website ???) When was the online good on any fighting game? :'(
Hey, just because I have my own personal problems with Tekken, doesn't mean NZism isn't fully supportive of anything Tekken players want to do.
Also there are several examples of fighting games with at least decent netcode.
True that, whats the best netcode around? HDR?
I personally have no experience with Tekken... I have a mate who's fully into Tekken, so hopefully when it drops he'll give me some pointers and I'll be able to decide for myself whether it's good or ballbags
Ill probably pick this up for xbox when it drops. Been looking for something new to have a jam on.
Quote from: ILL_BILL on October 28, 2009, 07:32:18 PM
Ill probably pick this up for xbox when it drops. Been looking for something new to have a jam on.
Problem with that is the tekken ppl see tekken on xbox as some kind of heresy and even if they didn't, have ps3s from launch when tekken 6 was announced for it :)
I cancelled my preorder because I figured "who the hell will I play against?"
It is heresy!, just like Final Fantasy will be ;)
Quote from: fluxcore on October 28, 2009, 07:39:51 PM
Quote from: ILL_BILL on October 28, 2009, 07:32:18 PM
Ill probably pick this up for xbox when it drops. Been looking for something new to have a jam on.
Problem with that is the tekken ppl see tekken on xbox as some kind of heresy and even if they didn't, have ps3s from launch when tekken 6 was announced for it :)
I cancelled my preorder because I figured "who the hell will I play against?"
Me lenny and stu !!!!!
Haha still kinda iffy about buying it on 360, need to see on my mates PS3 how many people in the TK community play on PS3 then buy the right version aswell as a PS3 if thats the case :o
Apparently, the 360 version loads faster than the PS3 version. I'm not sure if the PS3 version has an install option to reduce load times...
And quite a few players reckon the 360 version is better. The only thing you have to worry about is the 360 itself exploding...
Haha yea which mine has done recently >_< Such a shitty console, the PS3 has a install option, surely they have tested that by now against the 360 version. Firstgames has it in stock now, UK PAL copies im guessing:
http://www.firstgames.co.nz/shop/xbox360/tekken6
picked up a copy of tekken 6 today for the 360 from firstgames.
Its NTSC|J
Load time is around 5 seconds though, much faster than the ps3.
Oh true, thought they would have had region protection on a game like this. Thats a pretty big difference in the load times O_O Thinking about getting a copy sometime this week :)
from what I had read, the PS3 has marginally sharper graphics - though I can't see any difference in the side by side screen shots.
Also the PS3 load times are said to be pretty much the same as the 360 after the install. Before the install PS3 load times were mentioned around 15secs.
Quote from: maelgrim on October 29, 2009, 12:46:04 PM
from what I had read, the PS3 has marginally sharper graphics - though I can't see any difference in the side by side screen shots.
Also the PS3 load times are said to be pretty much the same as the 360 after the install. Before the install PS3 load times were mentioned around 15secs.
ouch, thats a pretty hefty load time...
my order shipped from firstgames today, 5 days before my finals hahahahahahaahah
The wireless stick (in the bundle) requires batteries - will not charge from USB. Also there is no indicator on how much battery life is left.
And for something really dumb - apparently the European Tekken6 regionals are disallowing stick use all togeather - you must use PS3 dualshock3 supplied at the venue (using PS3 kiosks I believe) and you are not allowed to reassign any buttons.
Wow that sounds fanatastic !
Sounds like the early rounds of the Gamestop SF4 US Nationals, some stores will prolly allow em
Quote from: maelgrim on October 29, 2009, 05:21:23 PM
The wireless stick (in the bundle) requires batteries - will not charge from USB. Also there is no indicator on how much battery life is left.
And for something really dumb - apparently the European Tekken6 regionals are disallowing stick use all togeather - you must use PS3 dualshock3 supplied at the venue (using PS3 kiosks I believe) and you are not allowed to reassign any buttons.
Wow that sounds fanatastic !
ouch. a friend of mine is getting the stick bundle, hes not going to like that :c
also just as well tekken is one of the more pad-able games, playing sf4 and using shoulder buttons = lol
Quote from: Ashe on October 29, 2009, 08:45:06 PM
Quote from: maelgrim on October 29, 2009, 05:21:23 PM
The wireless stick (in the bundle) requires batteries - will not charge from USB. Also there is no indicator on how much battery life is left.
And for something really dumb - apparently the European Tekken6 regionals are disallowing stick use all togeather - you must use PS3 dualshock3 supplied at the venue (using PS3 kiosks I believe) and you are not allowed to reassign any buttons.
Wow that sounds fanatastic !
ouch. a friend of mine is getting the stick bundle, hes not going to like that :c
also just as well tekken is one of the more pad-able games, playing sf4 and using shoulder buttons = lol
I reckon it's the combo's into haundreds hands sort of moves on sf that kill it for the pad. Tekken doesn't have those sorts of move inputs so it's all good with pad, but still hard to play at Arcades if you play mostly on pad.
I would have to agree that execeution in Tkenn is a lot easier than SF, so pad warriors have better luck with them on pad than SF, but I still prefer stick when I play Tekken as I am just too use to them and pad just won't do!!! unless its an RPG :D
Tekken does only have 4 attack buttons as well remember. So you can claw it and have access to all the buttons easily. SF is a different story especially if you wanna pull off ultras. And the xbox dpad isn't in line, it makes it so bad when I try to play Balrog, I can't even do the dash upper...
OK, alphaism radio has recently done a show regarding T6, talking to a couple of tekken aficionados (True & Rip).
You can download it at http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AXZOO7BK
In the first 3 minutes they say about 5 things I'm just going "what what? wait huh?" including:
- equating the mashability of a game to how hard the combos are to do
- stating that tekken is a turnbased game like chess (and implying this is a good thing)
- claiming that shoryukens are safe options and you don't have to think past them
Tekken players should listen to this show to get all patriotic and flame me and put me straight, and SF players should listen to this show to get all indignant and ask more probing questions.
Do it!
Quote from: fluxcore on November 02, 2009, 11:03:55 AM
- equating the mashability of a game to how hard the combos are to do
wut?
I don't understand that statement, but any good or proper combo will require minimal mashing.
Unless it happens to be about 10hit combos. Then good luck using 10 hitcombos for the rest of your time in Tekken :D
Quote from: fluxcore on November 02, 2009, 11:03:55 AM
- stating that tekken is a turnbased game like chess (and implying this is a good
In a way, it is. Due to the nature of specific moves being distance crush rather than hig/low crush, etc, etc, technical woohah, to play offensively, you need to take into account of the variables/possibilites... such as, sidestep right/ sidestep left/backdash as well as the low/mid options for all those steps. But that's how I play, most people will just space out wait for you to screw up and whiff, then launch you... :)
One of my friends said that I play Tekken like some Chinese castle building game that's like chess since I'm always going on offense and my character can cancel offense into defense and vice-versa. But I find that I suck at Chess... :'(
It's more like a real-time version of chess TBH. But you could say there is a vision of Tekken being turn-based due to fact that it isn't really safe to spam moves to keep the opponent in check like it is in most 2D fighters e.g. jabjabjajabjabjab.
*But both statements are based on my personal experience and should not be taken personally by anyone except me* :)
Quote from: fluxcore on November 02, 2009, 11:03:55 AM
- claiming that shoryukens are safe options and you don't have to think past them
They are only a good option if you're against someone with minimal movement. Even so, some slow characters usually have a way around it (Like how Zangeif will f@rk you up if you shoryuken in front of him, which anyone should be smart enough not to do). It's almost like a compulsory game mechanics law no matter what game you play (unless it's like Megaman VS Golden Lighter, then you're better off listening to Linkin Park and slitting your wrist). :)
Quote from: fluxcore on November 02, 2009, 11:03:55 AM
Tekken players should listen to this show to get all patriotic and flame me and put me straight, and SF players should listen to this show to get all indignant and ask more probing questions.
Do it!
I would if my internet wasn't being a b!tch today... 10kb/s download... really Telecom...
And no... :) but I could get some bored TZ guys to expand if they feel like it... :)
edit: I wrote a whole bunch of cr@p according to the following post :)
Yeah, I think you should actually listen to the show because I think you've misread what I was saying completely...
I sorta slowly listened to the first half hour, but I'm still not too keen on the game. Ever since I've seen that a standard combo off a launcher takes off half their health it kinda put me off. And when you get low health rage, that combo can do like 80%. Yeah sure pokes are good and stuff, but as soon as you get hit by a launcher boom, you're pretty screwed. I also feel the wake up game is a major advantage to the guy standing up. It's like playing as Sagat against Akuma's vortex. I'm starting to play a little bit at timezone, only because I've got like $300 of credit from guitar hero comps and they don't have sf4.
I mean yeah the game has skills, but I guess it's more of a reaction-based game, which isn't too bad. Just my thoughts on Tekken. (Tekken 3 is fun when none of know how to do these massive juggles and there is none of this bounce crap :))
I'll listen when I get some time :)
I am bummed that they haven't brought back 2v2 Tagging. Tekken tag was awesome.
And so is MvC2 - so i'm really surprised that nobody is making anything these days that involves team battles & tagging especially given how much everybody loves them.
Blazblue Tag , Capcom vs DC & Tekken Tag 2 ;) ;D
Would all be super hits imho
Quote from: maelgrim on November 02, 2009, 01:27:02 PM
i'm really surprised that nobody is making anything these days that involves team battles & tagging especially given how much everybody loves them.
You mean like Tatsunoko vs Capcom?
Quote from: fluxcore on November 02, 2009, 01:31:14 PM
Quote from: maelgrim on November 02, 2009, 01:27:02 PM
i'm really surprised that nobody is making anything these days that involves team battles & tagging especially given how much everybody loves them.
You mean like Tatsunoko vs Capcom?
Fucking wii.
Quote from: fluxcore on November 02, 2009, 01:31:14 PM
Quote from: maelgrim on November 02, 2009, 01:27:02 PM
i'm really surprised that nobody is making anything these days that involves team battles & tagging especially given how much everybody loves them.
You mean like Tatsunoko vs Capcom?
Yeah true, forgot about that one however as Weazzy said its on the Wii so it doesn't count for me :)
Quote from: massi4h on November 02, 2009, 12:56:55 PM
Ever since I've seen that a standard combo off a launcher takes off half their health it kinda put me off.
That's pretty much protocol in most fighting games. In BlazBlue, you can do that stuff off a normal hit that isn't even a launcher. e.g. Ragna kick, punch, etc, etc...
If you had listened carefully, they did mention how it's possible to win without full-on combos. Characters like Dragunov and Feng are mind game characters that specialise in taking out little chunks of your lifebar with individual hits, reversals and parries.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zypjEQOm6rw&feature=related
Quote from: massi4h on November 02, 2009, 12:56:55 PM
And when you get low health rage, that combo can do like 80%.
Specific charcters and conditions only. Plus while in rage, 1 little duck jab and you're practically dead... Your 80% quote is for the previous version of Tekken 6.
Quote from: massi4h on November 02, 2009, 12:56:55 PM
I also feel the wake up game is a major advantage to the guy standing up. It's like playing as Sagat against Akuma's vortex.
Tell that to Lei, Dragunov, Jack-6, Marduk, Kuma and Alisa... :)
Quote from: massi4h on November 02, 2009, 12:56:55 PM
I'm starting to play a little bit at timezone, only because I've got like $300 of credit from guitar hero comps and they don't have sf4.
Good job on that. :)
fluxcore: Just listened to the first half an hour. Those guys pretty much explained most of the stuff. I practically went into depth with those 3 statements you posted. But thanks for the post, twas a pretty interesting conversation between those guys.
edit: bonus feature
notice the postition changing by the Dragunov player so that he can maximise his damage output by using the walls?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpqTt2p4Umo&feature=related
ok Im gunna use raven cos he looks like a bad ass ninja so please someone tel me hes not low tier like ken .
Bah who am i kidding hes got ninja suits so imk using him either way .
However .... Ive never played a tekken before and I have no idea how to play , anyone who got it who knows what theyre doing keen to help me out ?
Don't worry Euan, I'll help you
i think raven is pretty good but thats just me but hes probly better than my main steve foxx.
but im sticking with the boxing brit haha he really doesnt have many low combos like other chars.
chatting to some dude about t6...
even though the arcade version runs on what is essentially a ps3...
and it has slowdown when Raven does a certain special move
b/c there's 3 character models on the screen at the same time and apparently the ps3 can't handle it...
for reals? oh dear.
Yeah but I've seen high level comps and I saw the international comp we had at armageddon. I saw in the last round, jack-6 poked the hell out of steve, but then got raged to death from like 60%... He had no options.
I managed to kill someone in 2 king comboes the other day. But when someone knocks me down I get pwned trying to get back up especially near a wall. I did see that a lot at the armageddon comp as well. At least I talked to the Phillipino player and he plays marvel. Didn't get to play him though.
It's just a different game from street fighter.
I didn't really listen to the clip, not yet anyway, but yeah, I can see how tekken fanbois and street fighter fanbois would start flaming over stuff they don't bother to understand about the other game.
Smoof, how are those JFSR's going?
You know I'm not an SF fanboy. I'll beat you next time we play ssbm you stupid d-smash peach whore :D
Quote from: Pinolicious on November 02, 2009, 05:07:14 PM
It's just a different game from street fighter.
I didn't really listen to the clip, not yet anyway, but yeah, I can see how tekken fanbois and street fighter fanbois would start flaming over stuff they don't bother to understand about the other game.
Smoof, how are those JFSR's going?
about 30% now =_=
excuse my tekken n00bness , wtf is a JFSR ?
Quote from: B1ackstar Ninja on November 02, 2009, 07:49:39 PM
excuse my tekken n00bness , wtf is a JFSR ?
Hwoarang's Just Frame Sky Rocket
A launcher with strict timing I believe
SF adn Tek are unique in their own way and I find them both enjoyable to play. It makes me wonder sometimes how good would I be in Tekken coming from a SF scene compared to teh Real Tekken boys. Heh must see after I get some practice done!!!
Quote from: B1ackstar Ninja on November 02, 2009, 07:49:39 PM
excuse my tekken n00bness , wtf is a JFSR ?
You go forward then let the joystick go back to neutral, then you have to press DF + 4 at the same time, I think it's like within 1/60 of a frame or some shit. I find this pretty hard because my joystick motions are balllllls.
I thought the whole point of 'just frame' was that it was a 1-frame leniency move.
*shrug* just what I heard we all know I'm not the tekken mastuh
Quote from: fluxcore on November 03, 2009, 09:21:22 AM
I thought the whole point of 'just frame' was that it was a 1-frame leniency move.
That's correct
You have to press the direction and the button at the same time, within the 1 frame of each other, the game is 60fps, so 1/60th of a second
Something like that
I'm gonna google it now before I put my foot in it
**Googled**
"Just-frame" moves require you to input a command during an exact specific frame of the character's animation. It requires exact timing
I don't really like that explanation. I just know to push the button at the same time as the last direction in the motion (eg the forward from QCF, or the d/f from a shoryuken)
Someone teach me brrruuuuuuuce
Quote from: Smoofologist on November 03, 2009, 11:58:17 AM
Someone teach me brrruuuuuuuce
Start here?
http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=151 (http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=151)
TZ is reeeeeeal bad at organizing shit like the latest juggles
FRESHEST 0-DAY JUGGLEZ
Quote from: Smoofologist on November 03, 2009, 09:19:03 AM
Quote from: B1ackstar Ninja on November 02, 2009, 07:49:39 PM
excuse my tekken n00bness , wtf is a JFSR ?
You go forward then let the joystick go back to neutral, then you have to press DF + 4 at the same time, I think it's like within 1/60 of a frame or some shit. I find this pretty hard because my joystick motions are balllllls.
That shit's easy as on pad.
Quote from: weazzyefff on November 03, 2009, 02:34:43 PM
Quote from: Smoofologist on November 03, 2009, 09:19:03 AM
Quote from: B1ackstar Ninja on November 02, 2009, 07:49:39 PM
excuse my tekken n00bness , wtf is a JFSR ?
You go forward then let the joystick go back to neutral, then you have to press DF + 4 at the same time, I think it's like within 1/60 of a frame or some shit. I find this pretty hard because my joystick motions are balllllls.
That shit's easy as on pad.
eeewwww just frames on pad...
Oh, also on the just frame thing, one of the easier ones to do is paul's d+1, 4, 1+2 (I can't remember if the last part is f+1+2 or just 1+2). anyway, the timing for that needs to be done during a specific animation during the low kick (i think it's the same frame the foot hits your opponent on the 4)
where as, I think JFSR requires the stick to go back to N (neutral) before the df+4.
I'm getting tekken fever again reading all this, come round smoof, I'll show you my scrublicious RLX mixups! samba, Samba, SAMBA!
Picked this up today, loving it so far but dont really want to go through the campaign >_< Apart from that having some mad matches against my mate, STEVE FAWX!!!
you mean
DEAN EARWICKER
Quote from: Pinolicious on November 03, 2009, 05:08:39 PM
Quote from: weazzyefff on November 03, 2009, 02:34:43 PM
Quote from: Smoofologist on November 03, 2009, 09:19:03 AM
Quote from: B1ackstar Ninja on November 02, 2009, 07:49:39 PM
excuse my tekken n00bness , wtf is a JFSR ?
You go forward then let the joystick go back to neutral, then you have to press DF + 4 at the same time, I think it's like within 1/60 of a frame or some shit. I find this pretty hard because my joystick motions are balllllls.
That shit's easy as on pad.
eeewwww just frames on pad...
Oh, also on the just frame thing, one of the easier ones to do is paul's d+1, 4, 1+2 (I can't remember if the last part is f+1+2 or just 1+2). anyway, the timing for that needs to be done during a specific animation during the low kick (i think it's the same frame the foot hits your opponent on the 4)
where as, I think JFSR requires the stick to go back to N (neutral) before the df+4.
I'm getting tekken fever again reading all this, come round smoof, I'll show you my scrublicious RLX mixups! samba, Samba, SAMBA!
Samba De Janeiro!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Jh10KDlKvI
In before Christie pride match and teach me Christie's BR staples... :)
LEVEL UP YOUR TEKKENS BRO
I feel levelled up 8)
Maybe I should now buy the game :D
Definitely some interesting things, I haven't played Tekken seriously for a while (not 6 at all) so some good stuff to know.
Lol, I am the self proclaimed champion of Tekken 6 Online Lagfest.
I played a Marduk, who had 100% wins (19W-0L), I was the first to take him out whoo! It was like playing an OP Tekken 4 Marduk all over again.
It's really easy toabuse the lag and bait people into a launcher. My wife says I've turned into an arsehole online shouting obscenities at nubs throw my TV, even if they can't hear me.
SMOOF! How's your Bruce? We should totally learn Hwaorang together, his crazy legs rape online too. GO LAG ABUSERS!
Haha, I have better wall combos now.... I really wanna learn Roger Jr or something. Bob is getting boooring
Quote from: Pinolicious on November 13, 2009, 04:45:44 PM
Lol, I am the self proclaimed champion of Tekken 6 Online Lagfest.
I played a Marduk, who had 100% wins (19W-0L), I was the first to take him out whoo! It was like playing an OP Tekken 4 Marduk all over again.
Bully bully bully bully...
Quote from: Pinolicious on November 13, 2009, 04:45:44 PM
My wife says I've turned into an arsehole online shouting obscenities at nubs throw my TV, even if they can't hear me.
I can relate to that... Except... I do it in person... ;D
spamming kazuya's uf 4+4+4+4 online is _b
Quote from: baze on November 22, 2009, 10:22:54 PM
spamming kazuya's uf 4+4+4+4 online is _b
Oh man please tell me your joking.
haha.
Someone on Tekken Zaibatsu mentioned it so I gave it a try once in an online match :)
Quote from: baze on November 23, 2009, 12:10:43 AM
haha.
Someone on Tekken Zaibatsu mentioned it so I gave it a try once in an online match :)
Online, you can pretty much spam a high/low mixup string, and because of lag, it won't let you block on reaction. I highly recommend it.
Quote from: Pinolicious on November 23, 2009, 08:49:10 AM
Quote from: baze on November 23, 2009, 12:10:43 AM
haha.
Someone on Tekken Zaibatsu mentioned it so I gave it a try once in an online match :)
Online, you can pretty much spam a high/low mixup string, and because of lag, it won't let you block on reaction. I highly recommend it.
OMG really? Online must be wayyy shit.
It is, hopefully something can be done. But then again whats any online game without lag, its allways there so :( plus is better having meets at Yifans, TZ & Imax ;D
Quote from: Will on November 23, 2009, 10:30:43 PM
It is, hopefully something can be done. But then again whats any online game without lag, its allways there so :( plus is better having meets at Yifans, TZ & Imax ;D
True, your being sarcastic aye, lol.
Bro COD MW2 (Only the best game ever) Has fuck all lag sometines NONE!!!. With 16 people running around a huge fucking map with graphics that shits on every other game (T6 is pretty close).
How could they fuck online up on a fighting game? Theres two people !!! On a small as fuck setting !!! And SF4 has shit graphics (SD).
There are many problems with fighting games online, they are pretty much the hardest games to do online properly. FPSes have all kinds of client and server side prediction which you simply cannot do with fighting games.
I agree with Flux, fighting games online are damn hard.
Though Blazblue showed that are some big improvements that SSF4 can make.
Another way that could help is to make the timing of moves alot easier / friendlier when online
e.g no 1 frame links
Quote from: maelgrim on November 24, 2009, 09:06:44 AM
Another way that could help is to make the timing of moves alot easier / friendlier when online
e.g no 1 frame links
I don't think this is the answer, to be honest... The primary audience a fighting game should cater for is offline. Making a fighting game BASED around something as latency ridden as the internet is a bad idea, IMO. One day when the technology and bandwidth is widely available, it will be as if you're playing offline anyway
One framers aren't hard... it's when you try one framers in a 3 bar lagfest that it gets frustrating
Quote from: weazzyefff on November 24, 2009, 01:48:35 AM
Quote from: Will on November 23, 2009, 10:30:43 PM
It is, hopefully something can be done. But then again whats any online game without lag, its allways there so :( plus is better having meets at Yifans, TZ & Imax ;D
True, your being sarcastic aye, lol.
Bro COD MW2 (Only the best game ever) Has fuck all lag sometines NONE!!!. With 16 people running around a huge fucking map with graphics that shits on every other game (T6 is pretty close).
How could they fuck online up on a fighting game? Theres two people !!! On a small as fuck setting !!! And SF4 has shit graphics (SD).
comparing apples and oranges here my friend
fighting games for the most part are reaction based
where as fps is more point and click
what you see and what they see in an fps is not always the same as can often be seen from a kill cam on COD
using that exact same idea on fighting games doesnt work masking lag is not ideal
having 1 frame of lag can ruin the game as can be seen in marvel eg cable hyperviper unbloackable or mags c.lk which is 1 frame and not blocking before means your getting hit
Actually BlazBlue did almost exactly that, each button press is repeated for 5 frames so all the 1 frame links become 5 framers really.
Whether they did this specifically for better online play, who knows...
You can't say FPS is just point and click. Reactions wise I'd say it requires just as much, and sometimes faster than a fighting game. It's like Alan said, FPS are easier because of server side prediction. At high level FPS you get exactly the same complaints you guys have, especially when there's a LAN tournament it's easy to see who has been carried by ping online and who actually knows wtf to do.
Honestly when I go to a net cafe I won't play on a ping greater than 50 for fps. At home I stay under 70 unless it's a fun server. When you gotta awp someone with only a few pixels of a gap that you're looking through that little ping can make all the difference. It sucks when you are in an awp battle and you have ~70 ping, you shoot and hear your awp but you get killed and the other guy doesn't get hit. Obviously with 0 ping if I hear my gun shoot that means I hit the guy.
Yeah lol, shoot your awp, ask your friend "Did I even shoot?" and he's all "..... nope" =_=
Shit like GGPO have proven there are ways to make fighting games work, and yes they really are the final frontier when it comes to online gaming. You can't compare to an FPS it's completely different. I used to think online fighting games werent possible, until GGPO proved me wrong.
I am immensely frustrated that we have probably had the biggest year for fighters ever this year and not one game has had the input delay masking/rewind type of netcode we require for online fighting.
Yet small developers like the one responsible for HDremix can pull it off, (which has fantastic netcode imo)
This could have been the fighting game resurgence but I think because of the reluctance of developers to implement GGPO (licenses are available, and I have spoken to ponder himself about the feasibility of GGPO for a 3d fighter, apparently no reason why it wouldnt work.) I think it's going to remind publishers why they stopped making fighting games.
Yeah but MW2 has great connections for online, obviously it's not as good as offline but it's def more playable then what I hear about Tekken.
And I'v obviously seen a kill cam. The new feature where you can join friends games without being invited gives you great connection with ease every time.
Apples and Oranges? More like lag and lag. But yeah, this was the awnser I was looking for even though i dont know what it means lol.
Quote from: fluxcore on November 24, 2009, 08:53:35 AM
There are many problems with fighting games online, they are pretty much the hardest games to do online properly. FPSes have all kinds of client and server side prediction which you simply cannot do with fighting games.
Quote from: weazzyefff on November 24, 2009, 01:51:23 PM
Yeah but MW2 has great connections for online, obviously it's not as good as offline but it's def more playable then what I hear about Tekken.
And I'v obviously seen a kill cam. The new feature where you can join friends games without being invited gives you great connection with ease every time.
Apples and Oranges? More like lag and lag. But yeah, this was the awnser I was looking for even though i dont know what it means lol.
is this new??
this option has been on xbox since i can remember
and i still think the point and click give a better idea of the lag or lack of lag since every button and direction input in a fighting game is important
compared to an fps which is not always two people in close range
and i would bet money you would never notice up to 3 frames lag on an fps
but you would on a fighting game
and isnt 50ms ping about 3frames lag anyway
Quote from: Barnstorm on November 24, 2009, 03:28:22 PM
Quote from: weazzyefff on November 24, 2009, 01:51:23 PM
Yeah but MW2 has great connections for online, obviously it's not as good as offline but it's def more playable then what I hear about Tekken.
And I'v obviously seen a kill cam. The new feature where you can join friends games without being invited gives you great connection with ease every time.
is this new??
this option has been on xbox since i can remember
You've been able to do this since launch, on xbox that is :)
I think the guy from ID, came up with some pretty advanced algorythym's for FPS games back in the day to make it work well for fps. But as someone else said FPS you can use prediction and a whole bunch of other tricks to get it to work that just is not realistic for a fighting game, it just won't work. It's far more complex than just having a reticle over someone and squeezing the trigger, there is alot more involved, seriously. and dont get me started on dedicated servers, ping is king for a fighter and you really can only take a p2p approach.
However it's still possible, and we shouldn't be feeling any input delay in fighting games these days, stuff like GGPO uses it's own type of tricks to get it to work, basically this system runs a virtual game for each client where inputs are sent to your own version This input delay masking employs rewind ability tho the game and if things go out of sync it will roll back the game state most of the time before you can notice anything. On a bad connection you will get some teleporting but it's still generally playable. I have had great games on GGPO and remix even to america and the UK with up to 300 ping....
Ponder (GGPO dev) says that the big companies are reluctant to buy licenses for the technology because they arent convinced it's better than what their internal development teams can do, which pretty much has turned out to be false. Also most of the fighting games are made in Japan, and sadly I think many japanese developers are out of touch these days.
They also have ridiculously good internet over there which means they don't tend to optimise their netcode enough.
Patch is supposed to be out sometime this week for tekken 6, I have my fingers crossed but I dont think it's going to be enough
:-[ :'(
Quote from: Darkf0rge on November 24, 2009, 05:08:37 PM
I think the guy from ID, came up with some pretty advanced algorythym's for FPS games back in the day to make it work well for fps. But as someone else said FPS you can use prediction and a whole bunch of other tricks to get it to work that just is not realistic for a fighting game, it just won't work. It's far more complex than just having a reticle over someone and squeezing the trigger, there is alot more involved, seriously. and dont get me started on dedicated servers, ping is king for a fighter and you really can only take a p2p approach.
However it's still possible, and we shouldn't be feeling any input delay in fighting games these days, stuff like GGPO uses it's own type of tricks to get it to work, basically this system runs a virtual game for each client where inputs are sent to your own version This input delay masking employs rewind ability tho the game and if things go out of sync it will roll back the game state most of the time before you can notice anything. On a bad connection you will get some teleporting but it's still generally playable. I have had great games on GGPO and remix even to america and the UK with up to 300 ping....
Ponder (GGPO dev) says that the big companies are reluctant to buy licenses for the technology because they arent convinced it's better than what their internal development teams can do, which pretty much has turned out to be false. Also most of the fighting games are made in Japan, and sadly I think many japanese developers are out of touch these days.
They also have ridiculously good internet over there which means they don't tend to optimise their netcode enough.
Patch is supposed to be out sometime this week for tekken 6, I have my fingers crossed but I dont think it's going to be enough
:-[ :'(
hopefully thats good news
i feel like this game was a waste of money to be honest with the terible netcode
and tekken has changed not for the better in my opinion
I will get tekken when the netcode is proved to be better...
I have to pull this out. Guitar hero is more noticable on lag. I can't play on a non-crt unless it's a very fast small lcd. To maximise your score you have to have the optimum timing window. And when you're playing around 20 notes per second (I can't do the 26 nps crap) it's pretty important. Why are we arguing anyway, we all know Chess is the most affected by lag.
Quote from: fluxcore on November 24, 2009, 05:34:51 PM
I will get tekken when the netcode is proved to be better...
Birry Wong Concurs.
Quote from: stereomonkey on November 24, 2009, 05:04:10 PM
Quote from: Barnstorm on November 24, 2009, 03:28:22 PM
Quote from: weazzyefff on November 24, 2009, 01:51:23 PM
Yeah but MW2 has great connections for online, obviously it's not as good as offline but it's def more playable then what I hear about Tekken.
And I'v obviously seen a kill cam. The new feature where you can join friends games without being invited gives you great connection with ease every time.
is this new??
this option has been on xbox since i can remember
You've been able to do this since launch, on xbox that is :)
Damn. I slipped up bigtime there.
PS3 FTW !!!
Fuck shit box in the shitter.
To be honest, Tekken 6 for console is sh!T.
If you're going to buy for online, don't bother. I doubt it'll get any better.
Even the normal game seems to have some kind of input lag due to TV's upscaling option. I find that my combo inputs are very different from the arcade.
http://iplaywinner.com/news/2009/11/23/tekken-6-online-patch-confirmed-for-thanksgiving-details.html
Supposedly a patch due out our friday.
Quote from: !DIABLO GTR! on November 24, 2009, 11:34:47 PM
To be honest, Tekken 6 for console is sh!T.
If you're going to buy for online, don't bother. I doubt it'll get any better.
Even the normal game seems to have some kind of input lag due to TV's upscaling option. I find that my combo inputs are very different from the arcade.
If you're assuming that arcade will be the way of the future, then I'm afraid that's a moot point. I'm not going to practice in the arcade, I'm not going to play in the arcade, and I'm not going to run tournaments in the arcade. In my opinion, people should get used to the console version, if there are in fact any differences or problems.
Also, your tv's upscaler will be different from other people's, if indeed that is the cause of the problem. Even more, the 360 has a built in hardware upscaler unlike the ps3.
As for the netcode, as I said - I'll get it when I see POSITIVE reviews of the new netcode.
Ill be sure to post my verdict when it comes out. Which should be friday I think.
As for lag offline. Apparently you can fix this by setting your LCD for 720p, and it only effects the Ps3 I believe.
Quote from: fluxcore on November 25, 2009, 08:05:22 AM
http://iplaywinner.com/news/2009/11/23/tekken-6-online-patch-confirmed-for-thanksgiving-details.html
Supposedly a patch due out our friday.
Quote from: !DIABLO GTR! on November 24, 2009, 11:34:47 PM
To be honest, Tekken 6 for console is sh!T.
If you're going to buy for online, don't bother. I doubt it'll get any better.
Even the normal game seems to have some kind of input lag due to TV's upscaling option. I find that my combo inputs are very different from the arcade.
If you're assuming that arcade will be the way of the future, then I'm afraid that's a moot point.
I don't believe that I've indicated that anywhere...
And consoles will obviously be the future.
Quote from: !DIABLO GTR! on November 26, 2009, 12:52:19 AM
Quote from: fluxcore on November 25, 2009, 08:05:22 AM
http://iplaywinner.com/news/2009/11/23/tekken-6-online-patch-confirmed-for-thanksgiving-details.html
Supposedly a patch due out our friday.
Quote from: !DIABLO GTR! on November 24, 2009, 11:34:47 PM
To be honest, Tekken 6 for console is sh!T.
If you're going to buy for online, don't bother. I doubt it'll get any better.
Even the normal game seems to have some kind of input lag due to TV's upscaling option. I find that my combo inputs are very different from the arcade.
If you're assuming that arcade will be the way of the future, then I'm afraid that's a moot point.
I don't believe that I've indicated that anywhere...
And consoles will obviously be the future.
lol,true.
After watching Melbourne's serious Tekken players go at it for a couple days on the cabinets here.. I can conclude this game is a turtle-punish into juggle fest lol.
No personal desire of playing.
Funny story tho, me and a mate fed the Tekken cabinets here and had a bash with neither of us having ever played before. He won with amazing lp strategy, then his girlfriend challenged him, she won.
Then as I was about to have another crack, a real Tekken player walked in and looked at us longingly. I said he should have a crack at her because I wasn't a serious player, and he looked almost offended by the idea of having to fight a girl, but after a slight pause he whipped out his wallet and proceeded to pull out his Tekken card. Of course he then spent about 2 minutes configuring costumes or some shit.
3 rounds = win the match.
She took him to final round and it pretty much ended with him on evo moment health lmfao, and all she was doing was mashing out hahaha.
I had never in my life struggled so hard to supress a laugh as when I asked him "Is this a mashers game bro?" and he said "Nah she just kept rushing me down, I can tell she's played before"
Good times, good times.
I don't want to get into a vs war, but there is a reason why SFIV has rapidly slipped down the charts in Japan while Tekken 6 BR has been number one for quite a while now.
I like SFIV, but Tekken 6 BR is a better game IMO, it's more accesable and has as much depth to boot.
I can understand that people can get turned off by the Turtle/Juggle thing but in reality the juggles are the not nasty part, it's all the OKI afterwards that gets you killed. You can definately play agressively in tekken as well as long as you are smart about it and dont throw out moves that put you at a huge frame disadvantage.
Most juggles will do far less than say a Ultra move in SFIV, which is a command and watch scenario....
A real good player will never be beaten by a button masher, that guy can't have been that good. Hell tekken has this thing where everyone seems to proclaim they are awesome at it, but end up being scrubs.
Anyway ill shutup about that, because in the end I think I like HD remix better than both games.
Anyway some people have got the patch early, verdict seems to be the netcode is now about on par with SFIV, so it will be playable just not GGPO standards.
Yeah the console version has some issues, but at least it seems namco are listening so we should see patches for the majority of it.
The resolution of the game is a bit dissapointing, but that's really just illustrating how inadequate the current gen hardware is. How many games actually run at 60fps and full 1080p? Fuck all I bet.
About 3 yeah. But many more ps3 people complain because they have shitty tvs/monitors that introduce upscaling lag, whereas 360 does it internally.
I'm not going to get into the whole sf vs tekken thing, it doesn't go anywhere. I know tekken frustrates me intensely, but that's just because I don't understand the mechanics properly. I have 0 incentive to play it without reasonable netcode though, so hearing it might be as good as sfiv is nice, I'll still wait a little to hear it from the majority though.
Yeah, the other thing is Tekken 6 has full variable motion blur. I'm pretty sure no games have pulled this off on the consoles this gen at 60fps. The development team said they tried to lower it to 30 fps at 1080p and it wasn't the same. I happen to really like the motion blur so I deal...
I really hate the low health bars though, lack of 2p customisations and no record in practise mode which is really fucking important for a serious player, I can't believe they left that shit out this time around, so I hope they patch that shit soon.
There is another patch late december which is rumoured to bring all that stuff in, so things should be good then.
Anyway, Yeah sorry for bringing up the SFIV vs Tekken thing, your right it's pretty pointless really. I enjoy both and have been a longtime streetfighter player as well. They are completely different and have there own merits and con's. Tekken has a cast of 40 and it's really well balanced all considered but I am actually really hyped up for the new version of SF, and if they fix the problems I have with vanilla SFIV. it may surpass Tekken 6 in my eyes. (Sagat's bullshit and Guile being raped in the bum really piss me off, atm lol.)
If you have offline lag on PS3 you simply need to get a better monitor. I think you need one where you can set the internal res to 720p to fix it, something like that. I prefer it on 360 just cause I have a arcade stick play with motion blur on to be as close to the arcade as possible and I like the interface better anyway so not an issue for me.
I am anxiously waiting for this patch, so I will give my verdict after I have a chance to put it through it's paces. I think even if it is on par with SFIV Tekken is arguably a little more sensitive to the input delay just because of how it plays with high/low strings, juggle and bound timing, and the fact it's being a completely frame based game.
I have had some still pretty enjoyable and playable matches with some poor connections in SFIV with Input delay that I don't think would have been so much under the same conditions in Tekken 6.
anyway fingers crossed, when I got T6 and found the state of the netcode I almost cried.
Yeah Dark you could tell he wasn't that good of a player, not asian or anything but very proud haha.
Full respect to the game, same boat as Flux though I just don't understand it properly and from the outsiders point of view I can't see myself learning it.
I think about memorizing those links and just get scared that they might break my SF links lol.
Only stink thing about this game is you cant land an Ultra and then skullator back a full beewar and go on playing.
I haven't had any problems with that, but I can see it's probably quite a valid concern I didn't put any thought into. The SF links are definately much tighter to execute, but tekken has a buffer system so you can pretty much wack them out similar to SF timing and you should be fine.
Anyway, patch finally got released and I played a few really solid matches last night. This is night and day to the game pre-patch. I had absolutely 0 faith in Namco to release a good netcode patch for this game and now here I am with my foot in my mouth. :-X
It's a little early to tell but I would say the netcode is definately a thousand times better than any of Namco's past attempt's and give or take on par with SFIV. Maybe a little better, maybe a little worse and even though it's not such a great achievement when I believe all major fighters should be using GGPO it's still a really solid online experience now.
I played about 30 games last night ranging from orange connections to green (haven't had a match from anyone in NZ yet which would be 6 bars)
On green and some yellow (quite a few american where yellow) I had almost flawless games with very little noticible lag, if any. there didn't appear to be any input delay either, which as with most fighters is critical.
I could block low on reaction, punish and juggle very effectively it was virtually indistiguishable from offline for many of these quality matches.
I played about 30 games last night ranging from orange connections to green (haven't had a match from anyone in NZ yet which would be 6 bars)
Even many of the orange bar connections where more than playable but they had some noticible input lag, but even then not enough to make the experience unplayable by any means, I still could juggle and time dash jab under these conditions which pre patch was impossible even with a full bar connection.
I wish I could be more concise than this, I am frustrated developers choose not to just show the actual ping in fighting games. I assume they think people are too stupid to understand, and I guess they probably are, but it makes things very vague!
So yeah on par with SFIV now. If you have been on the fence about getting the game, I would urge you to do so now.
Thing's get a little annoying with scroll windows on this board on my machine so sorry for the extra post but there was a few more details I wanted to add.
I think apart from the ability to play arcade and get automatic ranked matches in SFIV I think namco have given us a bit better options for their game in this patch.
You can search by Connection quality or greater promotion chance by getting matches with similar ranks.
You can also search by region, so you can choose to only be matched by Asia or leave it worldwide.
There is no counter picking because you must choose your character before the search for an opponent takes place. You also can't cherry pick your opponents. You are given a chance to back out of the match before it starts, but the only indication you see is the signal strength of the connection. this is a good feature I think. But I don't see any reason to back out of a match that is yellow and up, even some orange matches are more than playable.
My only real complaint is that they should have reset the leaderboards, and Ghost data and put everyone on a level playing field, because before the patch you were actually punished for being anything but a button masher.
Thats about it for now. I hope news of this patch gets around and the sales of this game get a boost. Namco has said they fully intend to support the game well after release with improvements, but I think the game has underperformed because of the bad online release code and MW2 release.
More sales should allow them to justify spending the money to follow up on this promise.
Another Patch is confirmed late Dec/Jan to add online SC mode co-op and it's rumoured to add a slew of offline improvements like the all important practise mode record feature....
The patch sounds good.
Might get round to picking this up now
I hope Nina still has her multi part throws - they were always fun
Yep, all indications I've seen say patch is 'about as good as sf4' which will probably horrify some lucky people (Ben), but good enough to get me to buy it. Will go in to te ware whare at lunch :P
and steals it... oh wait, that would be me :P
Quote from: maelgrim on November 27, 2009, 09:35:34 AM
The patch sounds good.
Might get round to picking this up now
I hope Nina still has her multi part throws - they were always fun
All characters have more moves than ever, but some of the animations have changed modifying the move property somewhat.
This game is my favourite iteration of Nina. (secondary character to my main Kazuya) All her multi-part throws are intact from previous games, with a couple of them getting more brutal looking animations.
Anyone from Streetfighter looking to pick this up I would recommend any of the mishima's, they have similar game mechanics to guys like Ryu and are very fun to play, with alot of depth and execution dexterity strategy. Kazuya especially is easy to pick up but very hard to master... Not the easiest characters to be competitive with but very impressive and satifying once you are.
Shit, how do you low forward fireball with Kaz?
Quote from: Darkf0rge on November 27, 2009, 11:39:41 AM
Anyone from Streetfighter looking to pick this up I would recommend any of the mishima's, they have similar game mechanics to guys like Ryu and are very fun to play
dp + 1 and the spin kicks yeah... but thats about it.
and alot of people hate the mishimas, cause theyre all about the EWGF
Quote from: samurai black on November 27, 2009, 12:08:45 PM
Quote from: Darkf0rge on November 27, 2009, 11:39:41 AM
Anyone from Streetfighter looking to pick this up I would recommend any of the mishima's, they have similar game mechanics to guys like Ryu and are very fun to play
dp + 1 and the spin kicks yeah... but thats about it.
and alot of people hate the mishimas, cause theyre all about the EWGF
that move has the most fucked up hit box though it picks up just about everything including from a knock down d+4(the little kick while lying down) trades
Just tried the new netcode, 1-5 bars
1 red = shit
2 dark orange = shit
3 don't know colour, maybe orange? = haven't had one yet
4 green = awesome
5 green = awesome
In short, the green connections (4-5) are very playable.
I don't have to mash buttons just to get a combo to work. It works.
EDIT
This page best describes the patch
http://www.ps3attitude.com/new/2009/11/tekken-6-online-patch-live/ (http://www.ps3attitude.com/new/2009/11/tekken-6-online-patch-live/)
5 GREEN IS CALLED TEAL
3 bars is yellow. it's still playable even enjoyable, but anything lower (orange,red) i would avoid like the plague.
I have had some american matches that were yellow, was more than fine as long as you dont expect an absolutely flawless game, which bar GGPO in 2d games is a bit silly to expect at this time.
Quote from: Darkf0rge on November 27, 2009, 09:28:19 AM
Thing's get a little annoying with scroll windows on this board on my machine so sorry for the extra post but there was a few more details I wanted to add.
I think apart from the ability to play arcade and get automatic ranked matches in SFIV I think namco have given us a bit better options for their game in this patch.
You can search by Connection quality or greater promotion chance by getting matches with similar ranks.
You can also search by region, so you can choose to only be matched by Asia or leave it worldwide.
There is no counter picking because you must choose your character before the search for an opponent takes place. You also can't cherry pick your opponents. You are given a chance to back out of the match before it starts, but the only indication you see is the signal strength of the connection. this is a good feature I think. But I don't see any reason to back out of a match that is yellow and up, even some orange matches are more than playable.
My only real complaint is that they should have reset the leaderboards, and Ghost data and put everyone on a level playing field, because before the patch you were actually punished for being anything but a button masher.
Thats about it for now. I hope news of this patch gets around and the sales of this game get a boost. Namco has said they fully intend to support the game well after release with improvements, but I think the game has underperformed because of the bad online release code and MW2 release.
More sales should allow them to justify spending the money to follow up on this promise.
Another Patch is confirmed late Dec/Jan to add online SC mode co-op and it's rumoured to add a slew of offline improvements like the all important practise mode record feature....
Bro no such thing as counter picking in tekken with the possible exception of king vs eddy or aking vs steve due to the kick and punch reversal
or panda vs me
Quote from: fluxcore on November 27, 2009, 10:23:23 PM
or panda vs me
lol.
I would get this if Kaz was the same as 5.
rising 2, df 2 ,3,4, df 1,2 juggle not work anymore.
Cant be fucked learning a whole other game. Is Kaz any good in this one?
Might just be my connection here at home (on holiday) but I cant find anything above two bars so I havent been able to get a match, kinda annoying but how long are you guys searching for and what times?
When I said there was no counter picking I didn't really mean it in the mechanical sense with matchup's. it's true there are so many moves in tekken it kind of becomes a moot point. I just meant it in the sense You just can't see who your oponent is going to be.
There are for the most part more difficult matchups than others for most of the characters though. Steve is top tier for instance, but he has a harder time against a very good Kazuya player for example. (as Kaz is considered to have number 1 punishment in the game)
On the topic of Kazuya, to answer the other guys question. He is still a very good character, and has always been my favourite. But I think he is one of the more advanced ones and you have to do alot of work to win with him. He is also really execution based, so you absolutely have to master wavedashing mixup's and 100% EWGF execution into solid bound combo's (which are alot easier to time than tekken 5) and Okizeme.
He was pretty much god tier in vanilla tekken 6 for the first time since tag probably and as a result he has been hit in the teeth quite hard with the nerf bat this time around. Still really solid though. Just wouldnt recommend him to a beginer. Due to the nerf's he is definately a big turtle in this game. But if you can get wavedash down with EWGF people will fear an aggresive Kaz player.
Connection quality seems to be about the time of the day you are playing, the best connections for me are obviously Aussie/NZ ones. I have the game for both systems, the PS3 obviously is where the hardcore player base is so the game is more robust online there i think.
Now I just need my xbox SFIV Dual modded for me ps3
cool, I was playing this with Lenny the other night, and for a T6 noob i was doing pretty good. So I'm picking this up tomorrow. I really like the new chars, Lars and Leo especially. And returning faces. I forgot how fun it was to play with my Wang!!!! Ohhh yeahhh. I gotta train my Wang up, he ends a bit quick sometimes.
^Sounds like you need to pick a bigger character.
Quote from: ILL_BILL on November 30, 2009, 10:52:55 PM
^Sounds like you need to pick a bigger character.
I like my Wang how it is, sloppy, and un experienced. I need to try my Wang on more people i think.
Hey i just noticed sf4 people play this game too. But no T6 people play sf4. Rats.
Darkf0rge
do you play in welly if so who are you?
and wahts your gamertag on xbox
Hey Barn, you still repping the capo's?
Quote from: Pinolicious on December 01, 2009, 04:55:39 PM
Hey Barn, you still repping the capo's?
yeah bro
im shit as now though
feels so different to previous tekkens
sorry bro but who are you pinolicious doesnt ring a bell at the mo
its darren
Quote from: Barnstorm on December 01, 2009, 06:53:37 PM
Quote from: Pinolicious on December 01, 2009, 04:55:39 PM
Hey Barn, you still repping the capo's?
yeah bro
im shit as now though
feels so different to previous tekkens
sorry bro but who are you pinolicious doesnt ring a bell at the mo
he used to be Dazz on the TZ forums years ago. I used to post as pokingjulia lols
Just as an interesting aside, some of you may have noticed how completely ass this game looks (especially compared to SFIV, SCIV), terrible jaggies etc. Here's the skinny:
PS3
Tekken 6 = 1024x576 (2xMSAA w/o motion blur, no AA w/motion blur)
360
Tekken 6 = 1024x576 w/motion blur, 1365x768 w/o motion blur (no AA)
and for comparison,
PS3: Street Fighter IV = 1280x720 (no AA), 630p in up-close character view?
360: Street Fighter IV = 1280x720 (2xAA)
In other words, as a 360 user, I'm going to turn motion blur off! PS3 guys, suppose you can too, at least you'll get AA even if you don't get higher res. Personally I don't think I've even noticed the motion blur, so whateverrrr
info taken from http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=46241
Meh, the fanbois and the hardcore don't really care too much for the graphics.
Anyway, was playing online last night, took on some scrub who just started with 2wins 0losses
I 3nilled him, and he msg's me some crap about how i just do the same combo string and didn't even let him get up.
It's called juggles and oki. He replies saying he's been playing tekken for ages and it wasn't always about juggles. I laughed at him and told him he's playing the wrong game. I tried to give him a few pointers, maybe watch some match vids or read some generic strats on zaibatsu. He got all sour and said he'd rather fight face to face where somebody can let him stand up.
Tbh Darren, your oki shit pisses me off hahahahaha. STOP GETTING UP SMOOF! rofl
Yeah, my wakeup game in tekken is atrocious, I simply don't know how to get up properly.
As for the graphics, personally the jaggies annoy the hell out of me, even when I'm playing.
Quote from: Pinolicious on December 02, 2009, 09:06:51 AM
Meh, the fanbois and the hardcore don't really care too much for the graphics.
Anyway, was playing online last night, took on some scrub who just started with 2wins 0losses
I 3nilled him, and he msg's me some crap about how i just do the same combo string and didn't even let him get up.
It's called juggles and oki. He replies saying he's been playing tekken for ages and it wasn't always about juggles. I laughed at him and told him he's playing the wrong game. I tried to give him a few pointers, maybe watch some match vids or read some generic strats on zaibatsu. He got all sour and said he'd rather fight face to face where somebody can let him stand up.
to be honest hes kind of right
i remember when it wasnt all juggles
which is my biggest problem now i still play like the old tekkens
eg poke,poke, poke throw, punish
then get hit by random launch half life gone 50/50 wake up GG
and im winning for the most part
i feel like im playing sf4 and every one is ryu with infinite ultra and ex meter
or 3rd strike chun
Yeah Pino, I remember when there was Tekken 3 and all we knew was counters (last year at high school). Now all this juggle to half health just pisses me off. And the unfair okizeme which sometimes feels like you're sagat fighting akumas vortex.
I'd rather play your dsmash whoring peach :)
I dont know bout you guys, but I certainly remember all the massive juggling back in tekken 3 and tag!
Fuckin Jin, Hei, and True ogre were gay as fuck.
Quote from: The Lenny on December 02, 2009, 12:19:48 PM
I dont know bout you guys, but I certainly remember all the massive juggling back in tekken 3 and tag!
Fuckin Jin, Hei, and True ogre were gay as fuck.
yeah i do remember them and thats y they were top tier but most of the launches were not as easy back then and i thought ogre was more about oki than combos
d/f+2 or some sort of low now days can lead to game over
ewgf was the closest thing but it was not a quick launch and outside of that most launches were rather punishable
but in saying that throws and pokes did substantial damage now its peanuts in comparison
I actually think the juggle's are alot less annoying than they were in all other tekkens since 3, and they actually do less damage because of the new damage scaling they employed. It's the Okizeme that gets you slaughtered is true. The bound system allows you to get pretty creative with them too which adds to the game i think.
I don't really see how the juggles in tekken 6 are any worse than Ultra's in streetfighter 4. Hell in SF4 (Which I also play and love.) it's like a command and watch scenario and some of those can take of 75% health in certain circumstances as well, and i personally hate in SF4 how you are basically awarded one of these for getting your assed kicked. Anyway just trying to give some perspective on this because I do like both games, and both games do have alot of bullshit in them as well. Nature of fighting games I guess.
I have been playing Tekken right back since the first game, but I am pretty new to both wellington and Tekken 6. I'm not very good at tekken 6 really int he grand scheme of things atm because it does play quite a bit different from the other games and there is alot to learn. anyway
Xbox and Arcade tag: Darkf0rge
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and yep, I agree the graphics do look pretty bad with the resolution and the jaggies on both systems. PS3 looks a bit better. But even the arcade version has slow down problems with the variable animation blur. So I think this is why it happened. They mention they tried to get the game running at 30 fps, in 1080p but it just wasnt tekken anymore. So they cut the rez to deliever the promise of a constant 60fps.
I think this generation of consoles is a little overhyped power wise. Both consoles need better graphics cards and more memory. Tekken is probably the only game to run at 60fps and have motion blur.
Anyway as I also play at the arcade I am leaving MB on. It does look quite a bit different on and I think they game flow's better in motion which I think is more important. It does look like ass in stills and stuff though, but when your fighting you wont notice it as much.
I am not too fussed about the graphics, what I am currently pissed off about is the lack of record in practise mode, and WTF is up with the low ass lifebars. Namco need to patch this shit come the late dec patch, and give us hud options.
Tekken Rage system can 100%. If I land one launcher on you, you can consider yourself fucked. Ultras cannot.
Quote from: Darkf0rge on December 02, 2009, 05:14:18 PM
I think this generation of consoles is a little overhyped power wise. Both consoles need better graphics cards and more memory. Tekken is probably the only game to run at 60fps and have motion blur.
Its not the consoles, check out uncharted2. Hopefully we don't see any new consoles for a long long time.
I think Soul Calibur looks nicer than Tekken6 and the devs know it which is why they added motion blur to try and have somthing to make a fuss about.
SF4 ultras are not my cup of tea, and I would be cool if you had to control your guy during the Ultra. But they do have that wow factor that would be hard to do otherwise.
Quote from: Darkf0rge on December 02, 2009, 05:14:18 PM
I actually think the juggle's are alot less annoying than they were in all other tekkens since 3, and they actually do less damage because of the new damage scaling they employed. It's the Okizeme that gets you slaughtered is true. The bound system allows you to get pretty creative with them too which adds to the game i think.
I don't really see how the juggles in tekken 6 are any worse than Ultra's in streetfighter 4. Hell in SF4 (Which I also play and love.) it's like a command and watch scenario and some of those can take of 75% health in certain circumstances as well, and i personally hate in SF4 how you are basically awarded one of these for getting your assed kicked. Anyway just trying to give some perspective on this because I do like both games, and both games do have alot of bullshit in them as well. Nature of fighting games I guess.
I have been playing Tekken right back since the first game, but I am pretty new to both wellington and Tekken 6. I'm not very good at tekken 6 really int he grand scheme of things atm because it does play quite a bit different from the other games and there is alot to learn. anyway
the good characters get a 50-70% with a wall and then you have wake up
the best you can hope for is no wall and a good guess which is still up to 40%
but sf4 (which i dont think is the best sf) has one maybe 2 ultras a round
where as d/f+2 is unlimited in tekken
i also dont like long ass combos gets boring after a while (which is funny since i love mahvel)
i personally feel tekken 6 and sf4 are close to even though in terms of gayness eg auto correct in sf4 crush system in tekken
im just used to older games where you have to work for the win and not hope you launch
But like most other fighting games, you have to bait your opponent into a launcher, they don't give it to you for free. If you watch some high level match vids, they poke the crap out of each other until somebody gets a launch/counter hit.
Is that not the same in other fighting games? Just bait them into a position where you get free damage?
And I rarely see TRUE 50%+ combo's in T6, either they have rage, or you got hurt by oki mixups, which can reset your bound combo.
And rage 100% combo's are situational, most if not all require a wall or floor break.
I'll admit, the only broken combo damage was in tekken 4, which the community disregarded and stuck with tekken tag until tekken 5 came out. OH YEAH INFINITE ARENA COMBO'S WHOO!
Also, tried to play at the arcade today, too much online play, kept mistiming all my combo's :( painful
I'm learning Lars, he's easy as to play with. Oh i havent been online yet I meant practice mode with juggles and shit lol. I better not go online and get raped.
Quote from: Pinolicious on December 02, 2009, 11:03:05 PM
But like most other fighting games, you have to bait your opponent into a launcher, they don't give it to you for free. If you watch some high level match vids, they poke the crap out of each other until somebody gets a launch/counter hit.
Is that not the same in other fighting games? Just bait them into a position where you get free damage?
And I rarely see TRUE 50%+ combo's in T6, either they have rage, or you got hurt by oki mixups, which can reset your bound combo.
And rage 100% combo's are situational, most if not all require a wall or floor break.
I'll admit, the only broken combo damage was in tekken 4, which the community disregarded and stuck with tekken tag until tekken 5 came out. OH YEAH INFINITE ARENA COMBO'S WHOO!
Also, tried to play at the arcade today, too much online play, kept mistiming all my combo's :( painful
I agree with you for the most part here
my biggest problems are
a) im not a top player and
b) launches appear to have a low risk high reward
and the majority of people ive seen dont have any sort of set up just random launch and hope im either holding forward or starting a move
and you are right over 50% requires wall
but when you have a chance of hitting 50% or taking 2 jabs(from 90% of the cast) its a good trade
its also funny you should bring up t4 cos that game but that was almost all pokes and throws but i still think it was fun for a change
do you still play capos aswell bro
i still play like i did in 5 going for throw setups but rodeo seems to do no damage now
im looking for some tech traps aswell any tips bro been trying f+4~3 and f+3,4 but they dont track well at all
Quote from: maelgrim on December 02, 2009, 07:41:03 PM
Quote from: Darkf0rge on December 02, 2009, 05:14:18 PM
I think this generation of consoles is a little overhyped power wise. Both consoles need better graphics cards and more memory. Tekken is probably the only game to run at 60fps and have motion blur.
Its not the consoles, check out uncharted2. Hopefully we don't see any new consoles for a long long time.
I think Soul Calibur looks nicer than Tekken6 and the devs know it which is why they added motion blur to try and have somthing to make a fuss about.
SF4 ultras are not my cup of tea, and I would be cool if you had to control your guy during the Ultra. But they do have that wow factor that would be hard to do otherwise.
Uncharted 2 =/= Arcade port. It's really hard to make something that has been out for like two years look good and I can bet you if they changed it too much you guys would be like "This isn't anything like the arcade"
If you want to do shit during your ultra play CvS2 and A2/3 with us.
Yeah I meant fun Tekken 3 when we were all scrubs. We managed to stop the 10 hit strings cause they were easy to reversal/parry but we never got into those massive juggles. Imagine if I knew last year that Paul's Phoenix Punch did like 80% on a counter hit...
I kinda have already stated what I feel about T6 in page 9, I still stand by it :(
Quote from: Smoofologist on December 03, 2009, 09:40:39 AM
Uncharted 2 =/= Arcade port. It's really hard to make something that has been out for like two years look good and I can bet you if they changed it too much you guys would be like "This isn't anything like the arcade"
Agree, - don't blame the consoles.
Personally I find the T6 graphics fine and didn't expect them to be any different, yes could be better but no biggy.
umm well, uncharted 2 looks amazing but it is only running at 30fps. Most titles don't need that 60fps but for fighting games this is nessesary.
All titles should be moving at 60fps, I actually get motion sickness on some games this gen because they are running closer to 30. New hardware looks like it's going to be needed to achieve this with full HD.
I guess the Juggle thing is an aquired taste, I actually used to hate juggles in tekken but in this game I have learnt to love them, I did forget about rage for a second. That can be nasty when your on the recieving end, but it works both ways. In Tekken it's really never over until it's over.
The thing with launchers is most of them are actually a little risky to use, i.e putting you at a frame disadvantage, and most of them land high so even in Kazuya's case with the Ewgf which is considered one of the better ones throughout the franchise (continues to see nerf's) even though it's a safe move on block it can be countered with a duck into a instant while standing launcher, if you are fast.
Played a couple of friends in some local matches last night, these guys are pretty good at tekken, better than me. Had some good games and quite a few of those no one went into the air at all.
It was kinda funny though, we had all being playing Online, and it really does mess your timing up a little bit. If you do play online alot you might want to keep that practise mode active to counter it for your offline matches.
The graphics on my sd TV are shit as. I cant pick random stages cos some of them make me throw up like sheep stage and the pig stage. ewwwww.
Is Lars thrashed online? I better not be maining the T6 flowchart Ken.
I'm not sure about whether he's as oft picked as Ken, but from what I understand he's basically the ken of t6 yeah
Quote from: Barnstorm on December 03, 2009, 09:37:12 AM
do you still play capos aswell bro
i still play like i did in 5 going for throw setups but rodeo seems to do no damage now
im looking for some tech traps aswell any tips bro been trying f+4~3 and f+3,4 but they dont track well at all
Yeah, I still play Christie (I can only play Christie lol)
They took out tech traps as of T5DR, can't do those anymore.
Capo strength is Oki and relax mixups.
The way I play works against rushdowns and scrubs you counter poke after your pokes, I have to slow it down against turtlers and opportunists (bastards)
anyway, the most basic setups/baiting tactics i have is, jab poke and go for d/f+2 CH into combo, or poke into b+2 or d/b+1+2 into combo.
what you also want to do is for any move that can go into rlx or hsp, just mix it up. sometimes after a move, don't go into a stance. and then from there, mix it up again, from rlx you can go 4~3 or 3~4 into combo, from HSP you can interrupt with 4, or d, ws~3+4 into combo
Pretty much mixups. which i actually don't do enough of... (i love rlx 4~3 too much).
as for her oki, qcf+3 is your friend. most of the time, if they try to get up the wrong way, it resets her bound and you get to combo all over again.
Na, I don't think Tekken has a flowchart char like Ken. More like flowchart players.
I mean, devil jin, you see people doing eye lasers.
or kazuya spamming hellsweeps and jumping hellsweeps.
it's like, they find a characters signiture move that's similar to the flashiness of ken shoryuken (and the glee one gets when the mash it and it actually connects), and they spam the crap out of it.
also, there are actually some mash friendly characters, baek, christie/eddy. just mash kicks and they'll mixup their high/low kick strings.
Quote from: Pinolicious on December 03, 2009, 01:00:16 PM
Quote from: Barnstorm on December 03, 2009, 09:37:12 AM
do you still play capos aswell bro
i still play like i did in 5 going for throw setups but rodeo seems to do no damage now
im looking for some tech traps aswell any tips bro been trying f+4~3 and f+3,4 but they dont track well at all
Yeah, I still play Christie (I can only play Christie lol)
They took out tech traps as of T5DR, can't do those anymore.
Capo strength is Oki and relax mixups.
The way I play works against rushdowns and scrubs you counter poke after your pokes, I have to slow it down against turtlers and opportunists (bastards)
anyway, the most basic setups/baiting tactics i have is, jab poke and go for d/f+2 CH into combo, or poke into b+2 or d/b+1+2 into combo.
what you also want to do is for any move that can go into rlx or hsp, just mix it up. sometimes after a move, don't go into a stance. and then from there, mix it up again, from rlx you can go 4~3 or 3~4 into combo, from HSP you can interrupt with 4, or d, ws~3+4 into combo
Pretty much mixups. which i actually don't do enough of... (i love rlx 4~3 too much).
as for her oki, qcf+3 is your friend. most of the time, if they try to get up the wrong way, it resets her bound and you get to combo all over again.
Yeah sorry i did know that tech traps were removed
i actually mean what can be done against tech rollers to stop them teching
as far as i can tell teching is the best option everytime against most characters
and i think i play the opposite of you as i work better with a bit of breathing room to mix up and force counter hits/throw
Quote from: Barnstorm on December 03, 2009, 02:11:46 PM
Yeah sorry i did know that tech traps were removed
i actually mean what can be done against tech rollers to stop them teching
as far as i can tell teching is the best option everytime against most characters
Eeww, if you tech everytime, you can get caught with mixup throw/launcer
if they consistently tech, just run up to them and throw. they will start ducking, so you mixup with a launcher
now, you 'could' break the throw rather than ducking, but if you mixup your throws, they have to use the right throw break to get out of it.
in the past, you could just buffer all 3x throw escapes with 2,1(hold)2, i don't think this works anymore (could be wrong).
Christie = Eddie = mash both kicks and forward :) Yeah we banned Eddie in our playing of T3 last year lol. Him, Gon and Dr. B were all too cheap for us. Random team battle Eddie or Mokujin Eddie were the coolest lol.
Quote from: weazzyefff on December 03, 2009, 12:26:58 PM
Is Lars thrashed online? I better not be maining the T6 flowchart Ken.
Lars is considered one of the, if not the highest tier character in the game. His UF+3 is absolute bullshit and takes priority over just about everything. ;D
I hate the prick, both character and storyline wise. Him and alisa are far to Anime for my tastes, but yeah I dont really think there are flowchart characters in this game really. The closest to that is the spam type characters, which if played like that are pretty easy to beat.
Then we had the pre online expereince. Where you had people abusing the hell out of Kazuya's rising sun to triple kick, basically because it was near impossible to block the entire string with all the input lag. (I was a little guilty of this myself along with the lazer just because you were actually punished for playing the game properly and would lose) This is changed now and most of the poeple doing that have moved onto characters they can mash with.
Cant wait for my mod parts to turn up so I bit the bullet and brought me a new TE for the PS3. I'll be rocking Ps3 BRO tommmrow night.
Quote from: Darkf0rge on December 03, 2009, 04:02:53 PM
Cant wait for my mod parts to turn up so I bit the bullet and brought me a new TE for the PS3. I'll be rocking Ps3 BRO tommmrow night.
Add me, PSN = Kriselda
WHOO WHOO
Yeah, I didn't really mean that Lars is flowchart, just that he has a few moves which really do all you want, and isn't really that complex?
oh and yeah Gino and I tried playing this, was absolute shit. Even after the patch. Couldn't juggle, even the char select screen lagged. Terrible.
We then played a perfect game of A2 on GGPO straight afterwards.
SMD Namco.
Pity, because the game is probably better than SFIV.
Quote from: fluxcore on December 07, 2009, 10:37:13 AM
oh and yeah Gino and I tried playing this, was absolute shit. Even after the patch. Couldn't juggle, even the char select screen lagged. Terrible.
We then played a perfect game of A2 on GGPO straight afterwards.
SMD Namco.
Pity, because the game is probably better than SFIV.
I actually think its close to on par with sf4 in the way it is very noob friendly and random shit can give u a win
was playing on saturday night with a lot of the old school tekken guys (tag-DR) and they see things much the same
and the lag is barely noticable on a 4-5 bar in my experience
I dunno aye, I used to love Tekken and hated SF. But now its different, I rented the game and before it even had to go back , I was playing SF. I thin it's cos SF's new to me and when I was playing Tekken it felt like the old games. Plus the games with my friends were a bit more even, something I didnt like.
Juggles are cool though, all part of the game.
You sure you just didnt have a temporary bad connection Flux?
As long as it's green/Teal I get a pretty much flawless connection most of the time, with no dicernable input delay at all, and even with a slight delay I get on the yellow conenction I can still juggle. but every now and then I think the network shits itself and you get some bad matches even on a full bar connection.
I haven't picked up Sf4 since tekken came out. There is two much crap in that game that irk's me. I think there is a pretty good reason why Tekken is number 1 in the japanese arcades (and has been for months) and SFIV has fallen of the chart. But yeah trying real hard not to turn this into SF4 vs tekken because it's a pointless discussion really. I just hope the new update to Streetfighter IV fixes all the shit I hate in the current game.
I have just seen this but Ill add you tonight kriselda
It was 2 or 1 bars depending on when I looked. Absolute bullshit. He's in the same city as me, and we get fine connections in everything else.
How much crap is "two much" crap? What irks you?
That's fucked up man. I played a few player matches with a mate on the other side of the city yesturday, it was teal/green and pretty much flawless.... I have also played a guy in gisborne (like 6-8 hours away) and it was still green, and prefectly playable.
I have the game on both consoles though, and I have been playing on Ps3 because the game seems more stable and there are some confirmed bugs with the 360 version. You also can't disable voice chat on 360 which add's to the lag. Another patch is scheduled end of Dec/ early Jan.
The good thing about the netcode is it isn't even on the game disk, so if they are on to it they will use this current gen platform to refine their netcode. Namco claimed (through markman) that they would support the game long after release, so hopefully it will continue to see improvement.
Quote from: Smoofologist on December 07, 2009, 12:40:52 PM
How much crap is "two much" crap? What irks you?
Well if you have ever seen david sirlin's article on his thoughts on SFIV (I can't be arsed finding it atm but I will if you want later.) He nails it on the head. I loved HD remix, that was a good quality Streetfighter title with excelent online. but basically...
All the counter picking.... My main Guile being nerfed in the bum continuously in each iteration. I don't mind playing a lower tier character, at all. Hell my main is kazuya in tekken BR. But, For example in Sf4 most of the time guile's ultra does less than Sagat's normal dragon. Where is the sense in that?
Have you seen all the tech data they have on the characters, I think sagat has even a larger life pool than everyone else! not even bringing into the equation all of Sagats other bullshit, like FADC from high kick into ridiculous combo's for insane damage that are fairly easy to do. I am picking on sagat because it's what springs to mind immedately but...
Then we have things like Blankas slide hitting people out of the fucking air that are comming down to kick him clean in the face. ::) . Basically all the move priorities are messed up. All the time in that game I will be playing with my mates and we are looking at the screen with eyebrows raised. I rarely get this feeling in tekken 6. If im stuffed by a move it generally makes sense, and I don't find myself yelling BULLSHIT! at the screen haha.
I really hate the floaty jumps as well, and I am not that big of a fan of the stylistic graphics and some of the animation looks really awkward, like Mortal combat fat bastard motion capture awkward. In the end It's kind of Ex for me all over again. (ok thats an exageration but you get the picture.)
I think I have already touched on the whole getting rewarded (with an ultra) for getting your ass kicked dealeo...
All the console exclusive characters feel under-developed and without the arcade they werent balanced properly.
Don't get me wrong though for all my complaints, I do like the game, I played it relentlessly when it first came out, but now it just bores me a bit. I don't see this happening for me in tekken 6, I will be playing this game for years. It's really an opinion thing and each to their own. I am sure you can probably come up with just as many reasons why tekken is worse maybe more. But it's a game that just resonates with me alot more than a bunch of guys throwing fireballs at each other. It's apples and oranges.
But, I can't stress enough that I have great hopes for Super Streetfighter IV, because I did have alot of fun with the original until it got tiresome for me. SO I will definately be picking it up.
I think Tekken 6 is just alot more balanced. But that's the advantage of having your games expantion released at the arcade and having years of play testing in that environment. So hopefully SSFIV is going to be the vast improvement I think it will be.
... I think you're just bad at SF4 bro.
I typed up one of my infamous marathon posts giving the opposite side of all (more like a slight majority tbh :P) your arguments, and then got to the end and realised that we both end up arguing that its all a bigass opinion battle that noone can possibly win.
Taking that into consideration, the nutshell i was going to get at was that you have valid arguments, though i personally believe youre taking them out of proportion.
I admit I am not a "master" at SFIV, but I'm definately not a scrub. I do pretty well competitively online when the connection is good, and last time I was in Auckland. (we dont have a cab down here, but two Tekken 6's. dont know why) I didn't have much problem with the competition there at the time. I hit about a 12 win streak with guile before I got taken down by a gief player. I am not complaining cause I lose. I don't like the game because I lose all the time. (Hell I lose all the time in tekken 6)
In the end the tale of the tape is Tekken 6 BR is still the most popular Arcade game in Japan and has been for months, it was actually released before SFIV and that game has slipped to about 7th last time I checked. i.e not even on the radar. Korea even has a tv show dedicated to professional tekken competiton.
and yeah I may be blowing things a little out of proportion. But like I tried to say any thread you have that mentions two fighting games, you are always going to have these discusions and it really is a bit pointless as you say it's all opinion.As Fluxcore said earlier we would be arguing for ever. So I will try to leave it at that. I like both but Ill be exclusively playing tekken until SSFIV comes out and then, well I'll see....
If anyone was interested in the article by the Lead HD remix designer, (also plays Streetfighter professionally I think, here it is.)
http://www.sirlin.net/blog/2009/2/22/a-few-things-about-street-fighter-4.html
darkf0rge
i think your a bit off on this to be honest bro
what you may not know is tekken used to be extremely technical with frame data etc
now though with the crush system its like having an ultra the entire round and frame data doesnt gaurantee any thing now(except a jab maybe)
this may be why you said Lars whas top tier which he is not due to the amount of mid moves he has so isnt crushed often
the ultra is different in that it does big damage but
A) you know when your opponent has it and
B) you have to take damage/focus to gain this
which means you can adjust play style to avoid an ultra or you are easily winning(in theor) the match and shouldnt be a problem to finish the opponent off
and to run back the fact sf4 is not as popular as tekken is more than likely due to the ease of entry into the game
i know people who struggle to throw a fireball but can juggle in tekken
and people as a whole hate to lose and hate to have to put in too much effort to learn(especially a game which is supposed to be fun)
which is SF biggest problem of the entry level learning
like i said earlier i was playing with mates on the weekend toothy, def, t4jin who if you play tekken in nz would know these names as mostlikely top 8 and they all said its bullshit noob friendly(exact words)
and you cant bring up counter picking, ST (and HDr) was terrible for counter picks
also i would almost be willing to bet money you wont play this in a year no tekken except tag has had a long life and all the good players i know dont care for this any more eg saturday was their first time to play in 2-3 months
and sf4 i think had the right idea i just dont like or enjoy it as much as older titles
too slow, turtling is generally better than rush, and because of this the characters dont gel well with me
Quote from: Barnstorm on December 07, 2009, 02:17:54 PM
the ultra is different in that it does big damage but
A) you know when your opponent has it and
B) you have to take damage/focus to gain this
This is all true for Rage as well, isn't it? Personally I think both are stupid, but hey...
Quoteand sf4 i think had the right idea i just dont like or enjoy it as much as older titles
too slow, turtling is generally better than rush, and because of this the characters dont gel well with me
Yup, at least in tekken6 you are in each other's faces the whole time, even if you are both basically just mashing. Instantly better than SF4 imo.
Oh, and I forgot to say, I'd bet money that SSFIV will be just as boring and stupid as SFIV is.
Quote from: fluxcore on December 07, 2009, 02:27:08 PM
Quote from: Barnstorm on December 07, 2009, 02:17:54 PM
the ultra is different in that it does big damage but
A) you know when your opponent has it and
B) you have to take damage/focus to gain this
This is all true for Rage as well, isn't it? Personally I think both are stupid, but hey...
Quoteand sf4 i think had the right idea i just dont like or enjoy it as much as older titles
too slow, turtling is generally better than rush, and because of this the characters dont gel well with me
Yup, at least in tekken6 you are in each other's faces the whole time, even if you are both basically just mashing. Instantly better than SF4 imo.
Rage is not really an issue to me
Steve does 70% on a walled stage off a counter hit b+1 (11 or 12f move) sagat doesnt even do that
and every tekken up to t6 removed alot of the spacing used in previous games eg back dash so you have to be in their face which is a bit gay
i mean it used to be a little like footsies as i see you posted up an article
if you get a chance to watch a tag kenbou's lei haha step to force a whifh and punish with razor rush
like i said i dont care for either game that much i much prefer the older iterations of both
Quote from: fluxcore on December 07, 2009, 02:33:59 PM
Oh, and I forgot to say, I'd bet money that SSFIV will be just as boring and stupid as SFIV is.
and i forgot to say
we will all buy it play it hard for 3-6 months then go back to ST or alpha or marvel
I reckon it'll be shorter, because all the people that already don't like SFIV will be much quicker to drop the same game the second time around.
But yeah, we'll all still buy it.
As much as I get hoha about SF4 I am glad for what its done to the community.
And I hope that even is SSFIV isnt what I like, that the next capcom fighter they drop after that might finally suit my tastes a little more.
Barnstorm
Well, tekken tag remains my favourite in the series, but until they release that game on Xbox live with GGPO network support (in other words never) I'm leaving it in the past, sadly.
Actually my comments about Lars being top tier isn't actually my opinion, because I agree with you. Tier lists are always a bit debatable But alot of people in the hardcore community like the zaibatsu seem to think so, so thats why I mentioned it before when queried about lars. Personally i'm leaning more towards, Steve and Law being top of the heap atm. (law is made of bullshit)
and yeah I don't really understand your argument about rage vs ultra, you can see when your opponent has rage, you can take measures even to ensure they are dead before they can use it, and yes, in both systems you need to take damage to use it, but in tekken all your opponent needs to do is hit you once end it all. (or not even let you enter rage in the first place) Anyway I agree with Flux both systems are unnesesary and a bit silly. Rage was never a big concern for me in tekken though.
When I mentioned counter picking, I meant in regard to blind select. HD remix had counter matches of course but it didn't matter because you never got to see who your opponent had picked.
Console wise SFIV is definately more popluar than Tekken, due to the casual crowd and lavishes of praise by the ignorant gaming media, which is wierd even though I agree Tekken is very n00b friendly. I stand by my statement that SFIV is far more unbalanced and for all the "n00b bullshit" that tekken 6 has, it still pales in comparisson to the amount of crap you see in SFIV.
I think just about any character can basically be viable in tekken 6, top tier or not. I really doubt this is the case in SFIV. I would really like to see fei long win a major tournament.
A couple of weeks ago I saw a panda player absolutely clean up all the top tier playing guys down at the arcade, that was amusing... Damn good panda though.
But, yeah in the end SfIV has done alot for the fighting community and i definately give it props for that. I was beginning to think I could say goodbye to fighting games, hopefully the excellent sales of SFIV this year have proven to game's publishes that fighting games are still a viable genre and we start seeing some new innovative franchises..
Quote from: Darkf0rge on December 07, 2009, 03:30:30 PM
I think just about any character can basically be viable in tekken 6, top tier or not. I really doubt this is the case in SFIV. I would really like to see fei long win a major tournament.
Actually Justin Wong did do that...
OMG I JUST SAW JUSTIN WONG BEAT DAIGO WITH FEI LONG!!!!! Justin has raped heaps of players with his Fei.
Where is that bitch on the tiers again? Ohhhh yeeeeeahhh......
At a tournament you can request blind select. Problem solved.
In terms of % most ultra juggles (really the only reliable way to hit them) do a little more than a tekken juggle.
You're still yet to tell us about this "bullshit" in SF4. Your previous post was really flawed.
Quote from: fluxcore on December 07, 2009, 03:42:04 PM
Quote from: Darkf0rge on December 07, 2009, 03:30:30 PM
I think just about any character can basically be viable in tekken 6, top tier or not. I really doubt this is the case in SFIV. I would really like to see fei long win a major tournament.
Actually Justin Wong did do that...
Yeah but JWong's a fag though.
I was just pissed at Tekken cos I learnt Lars juggles in like 10 mins, no shit it's really easy. Then challenge my mate who button nashed to victory with Hwarang and Christie.
IMO I think the shit in SF4 is way harder to do in T6. I think you just have to know what can be punished/ Sidestepped into launchers with T6. Which was my problem cos I could grab a char, learn ALL their shit in like half an hour and then go get raped cos I couldnt get the launcher, I think i was missing punishment opportunities. I dunno I suck at T6. But when I was looking up Lars vids I could do everything they could
And that was one day of playing T6. To this day the shit Daigo/Mago/JPN do shit that is untouchable, from my 9 months of atleast 6 hrs EVERY day.
Yeah, sounds like you're missing fundamentals. People assume tekken is easy cause combo's are easy to do. But only a scrub gives you a free launcher.
Isn't that the same with most fighting games though? Like, I definitely aint no Street Fighter pro, I learnt some basic combos, learnt 'how' to ryu f.dp > fadc > ultra, still yet to grasp the opportunities of when I can do it, or how to create such opportunities
Yeah I think thats what I meant aye, need to learn what can be punished/stepped. Thats alot of chars moves to learn on that sort of stuff.
Just wondering though, do people really play all 40ish chars competitively, if so thats pretty f'n awesome.
Quote from: weazzyefff on December 07, 2009, 04:56:35 PM
Yeah I think thats what I meant aye, need to learn what can be punished/stepped. Thats alot of chars moves to learn on that sort of stuff.
Just wondering though, do people really play all 40ish chars competitively, if so thats pretty f'n awesome.
I don't know whether it's "all 40 are played competitively" as much as it is "all 40 are competitive"... by that I mean people won't necessarily stick to picking the top characters just because they're more viable... people would pick characters that appeal to them
Personally, if I ever saw someone using that fucking Kangaroo I'd knee them in the fucking jaw
you can spam launches for the most part, d/f+2 or hop kicks are a good start but i dont know any lars stuff sorry
usually you dont leran all characters you learn what to block which is a bit different to sf block all crouching technique
but they generally have the same premise pokes and throws do most of the damage at high level
tekken is the lows that do the little annoying damage
sf is usually chip damage
so occasionally characters can throw in terrible moves and due to not knowing the character is unpunishable or blocked incorrectly
its basically a shenanigan
Mid launchers hit crouching opponents. And you say that most characters are viable in T6. That's because they can all do 50% combos. Playing a more random character just means that they have less chance of having memorised your frame data so they can poke you better. Being in rage means you'll die in about 1 hit, but you hit them once and they'll die from your combo.
Quote from: electric on December 07, 2009, 05:01:50 PM
I don't know whether it's "all 40 are played competitively" as much as it is "all 40 are competitive"... by that I mean people won't necessarily stick to picking the top characters just because they're more viable... people would pick characters that appeal to them
Personally, if I ever saw someone using that fucking Kangaroo I'd knee them in the fucking jaw
There's a few good Roger players in welly :P
I have tekken now but I don't like it too much. All I like is King and his juggles ending in giant swing (savage style :P) but thats all.
Oh, and maybe looking at the upskirts and boobies. But thats better done in Soul Calibur 4.
Quote from: stereomonkey on December 29, 2009, 12:49:06 AM
Oh, and maybe looking at the upskirts and boobies. But thats better done in Soul Calibur 4.
thats all soul calibur is about now.
Yea I use to love it and I hated SF. I would defend tekken to the death and bashed SF. But I didnt like it when I rented it aye. I like SF4 cos I've never played a SF before, and it's new to me, projectiles, super/ultra bars.
But Tekken felt real basic and lame. But i'm a loyay fan so i'm thrash the shit out of it anyway. And atleast I can say I've played THIS whole series, so I dont get the 09er hate lol.
True I might as well put it here.
Who do you's all main at Tekken 6?
I'm thinking of maining Lars,Kazuya,Law and Armour King.
Julia, picking up Lili
Christie OH YEAH!
'' If you play with girls in Tekken you play with barbies''
I like to handle women more then men in tekken. That said, king for me.
I play mainly Raven, Baek, Hwoarang, Bruce and Steve but I'm pretty decent with most of the cast definately some more than others.
If you're starting out but can't be fucked wading through the tekken zaibatsu forums check out http://iamtekken.com/ it hasn't been going too long and has some good info. Plus it's got a link to the Japanese wiki for frame data.
Quote from: Neal on January 01, 2010, 07:06:53 PM
I play mainly Raven, Baek, Hwoarang, Bruce and Steve but I'm pretty decent with most of the cast definately some more than others.
If you're starting out but can't be fucked wading through the tekken zaibatsu forums check out http://iamtekken.com/ it hasn't been going too long and has some good info. Plus it's got a link to the Japanese wiki for frame data.
Bro, I take back saying this game is basic. I learnt so much shit in that ''lvl up your game '' segment.
Thanks for posting this site.
Quote from: weazzyefff on January 02, 2010, 01:42:59 PM
Bro, I take back saying this game is basic. I learnt so much shit in that ''lvl up your game '' segment.
I posted a link to that ages ago :P
Yeah, probably when I didnt have this game, and i didnt care.
Man, how do you get good ghosts to play against, all the ones i got are shit.
Quote from: fluxcore on January 02, 2010, 02:11:17 PM
Quote from: weazzyefff on January 02, 2010, 01:42:59 PM
Bro, I take back saying this game is basic. I learnt so much shit in that ''lvl up your game '' segment.
I posted a link to that ages ago :P
Yeah that was great, I learned quite alot from that.
Quote from: weazzyefff on January 02, 2010, 02:26:28 PM
Yeah, probably when I didnt have this game, and i didnt care.
Man, how do you get good ghosts to play against, all the ones i got are shit.
Meh ghosts are shit, but download the rapelays, you can learn more from them
Meh, I'd rather watch youtube.
I need to get some online games in. My mate beats me by button mashing with Baek.
Quote from: weazzyefff on January 03, 2010, 03:56:59 AM
Meh, I'd rather watch youtube.
I need to get some online games in. My mate beats me by button mashing with Baek.
Hmm... the high low mash mixup strings? Interrupt mid string with db+1, then interrupt the start of the next mash string with a CH launcher. against mashers, 60% of the time, it works 100% of the time :D
but seriously, just do that to mashers, they love it.
Yeah, db+1 sounds too weak for my Law. I think i'll CH with 4 into juggle. That should stop the mash parade lol.
Man I suck at blocking in this game. I'm still stuck in db mode from SF lol. When i'm attacking its allgood though.
Yeah I had some games against that RocoABC dude, ggs dude. It hardly ever lag, green bar, only sometimes it went all choppy, but only like 3 rounds in the hour and something we played.
I still need to learn what to punish/interupt cos i'm sure he was abusing heaps of unsafe shit, just cos i'm noob. Gota few rounds off him though, outta like 30.
Hard to find Law tips. Yeah TZ is allgood, but I just wana youtube tutorial vid lol, i'm so fucking lazy. 434 dss f3 is hard as fuck on small chars. Anyone else play Law, i need help to the days.
edit: This games not very popular in english speaking countries is it. Hard to find stuff.
This needs to pick up, the psn list is hella weak. Ozhadous sites been down since I got this game. NOOO!!! I gotta search GP and NZG.
Quote from: weazzyefff on January 04, 2010, 08:47:38 PM
Yeah I had some games against that RocoABC dude, ggs dude. It hardly ever lag, green bar, only sometimes it went all choppy, but only like 3 rounds in the hour and something we played.
I still need to learn what to punish/interupt cos i'm sure he was abusing heaps of unsafe shit, just cos i'm noob. Gota few rounds off him though, outta like 30.
Hard to find Law tips. Yeah TZ is allgood, but I just wana youtube tutorial vid lol, i'm so fucking lazy. 434 dss f3 is hard as fuck on small chars. Anyone else play Law, i need help to the days.
edit: This games not very popular in english speaking countries is it. Hard to find stuff.
This needs to pick up, the psn list is hella weak. Ozhadous sites been down since I got this game. NOOO!!! I gotta search GP and NZG.
GG bro. As far as unsafe stuff I can tell you straight away I really don't know at the end of the day. I learn by playing and trial and error rather than reading frame data or watching online tutorials as really I can't be ass to do it.
Need to play more as most of the laws I have played against were pretty predictable and boring so it was refreshing to play a Law that does mix things up.
Anybody play in the arcades?
Quote from: Neal on January 06, 2010, 12:28:09 PM
Anybody play in the arcades?
Nope. And I threw away my free 1 hour pass at TZ BK. Too far too drive. That would consist of me staying sober AND actually putting gas in my car.
Where do you play, and how many top level players play? Think there might be a tournament in the works?
Quote from: Neal on January 06, 2010, 12:28:09 PM
Anybody play in the arcades?
Heaps of comp at the arcades in auckland. Though not that many of those players post here.
I'm working at Timezone on Queen st atm, so I usually play there. Even though Yifans has better cabinets, most of the top players go to TZ, because it's a lot cheaper I guess.
A few of the really good players went overseas (back to korea) for a few months so the scene's dwindled a bit but you can still find some good comp in the arcade.
But anyway I though I'd ask for opinions. My manager wants me to try and bring in new players and devise a tournament that caters to them. Obviously there are heaps of problems trying to do something like this. I mean how do you define 'NEW PLAYERS'? You can't do it based on card rank, there are too many loopholes. Does a tournament full of little kids mashing buttons do anyone any good? NAH. But mostly, telling people they aren't allowed to enter because they are too good, that ain't fair.
Anyone got any better ideas?
Should be allgood, just dont let those guys enter that you see there everyday, and instead put the word out on casual gamer sites and that, cos theres some no's on those sites that could be interesred. You know get them to wana practice and get good and compete an shit. Get them out there in a live gaming atmosphere, and recharge the arcade scene (lol wasted).
But me personally have been thrashing this game, but it's hard to find comp. I'm not great yet, but I would prefer to play in a tournament with the best players, best way to learn. And TBH i dont really wana be know for winning a scrubs only tourney. I'm sure heaps would agree but so far thats just my opinion.
Should make the prize a phat munch at BK, and i'll be durr.
It's all in the advertising. New players WILL turn up, as well as your regulars. There were people at our sf4 nats who noone had ever seen before. Fuck knows how they heard about it but they did.
Posting stuff on forums like this, and other gaming sites is a great idea. I would even go a stretch further and try and get flyers put up around gaming hubs (EB, livewire etc.) it might take a bit of coaxing, but if you throw their logo on your poster it's free advertising for them. (little more complicated than this in reality, but you get the idea) I'd be tempted to throw some flyers up around high schools as well, since most of your 'new' players will be at around that age.
More publicity = more players. Old and new. Tekken is big enough to pull a decent crowd. Hell, I'd come to a tekken tourney. And I don't play it.
Quote from: Neal on January 07, 2010, 01:19:47 AM
I'm working at Timezone on Queen st atm, so I usually play there. Even though Yifans has better cabinets, most of the top players go to TZ, because it's a lot cheaper I guess.
A few of the really good players went overseas (back to korea) for a few months so the scene's dwindled a bit but you can still find some good comp in the arcade.
But anyway I though I'd ask for opinions. My manager wants me to try and bring in new players and devise a tournament that caters to them. Obviously there are heaps of problems trying to do something like this. I mean how do you define 'NEW PLAYERS'? You can't do it based on card rank, there are too many loopholes. Does a tournament full of little kids mashing buttons do anyone any good? NAH. But mostly, telling people they aren't allowed to enter because they are too good, that ain't fair.
Anyone got any better ideas?
LOL, I'm in the process of organising an NZism Tekken tournament right now. Knowing the tekken scene, all the 'best players' won't enter simply because it's not them with the reins in their hands, so it should be fine for me :P
We could work together. We can have our one first, and Neal's manger can come along and promote his tourny. And we can promote our tourny at TZ, so we can get the top players interested. Or w/e.
I like how you say "our"
Quote from: stereomonkey on January 07, 2010, 01:22:42 PM
I like how you say "our"
Yeah i meant me/mine lol. OR stereos, you know the guy that lives all the way over in Australia.
Ours, the community, w/e you wana call it.
Anyways, the onlines real good in this game aye ( green bars ). I dont really notice much lag at all. Just hard finding competition. I got some NZ players on my list from GP who are pretty good. But they probably play on pad, so Arcade might be a bit of a turn off unfortunately.
<--The guy soon to be back in NZ :P
On other news, I traded in my T6. I tried getting into but I get interested in watching movies that most of the characters take their likeness from. Weird :-\
Hey whats da best youtube channels to subscribe for. You know like sf4 lordaborigine etc. I keep finding the oldest shit aye.
http://www.youtube.com/user/TekkenGosu features a lot of Korean players.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Jon747 All the Tekken Crash series are here.
Coolio's. Cheers bro.
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okay...
Quote from: fluxcore on January 07, 2010, 07:51:55 AM
LOL, I'm in the process of organising an NZism Tekken tournament right now. Knowing the tekken scene, all the 'best players' won't enter simply because it's not them with the reins in their hands, so it should be fine for me :P
Yeah that'd be great if you organised one especially if you could motivate some new guys to get into it. I'll enter for sure provided it's in Auckland and someone can lend me a stick to play on lol. As for the other guys, like I said a few of the top players are overseas and the scene in the arcade is dwindling a bit, but I'm sure I can find a few good players who are keen.
Interestingly though a lot of Tekken players seem to be a little bit skittish when it comes to entering tournaments. Even people who play regularly. I know in the past when I've tried to convince people to sign up I hear a lot of "nah because I won't win" or "we already know who's going to win" etc etc bullshit. Entry was free to the TZ tournaments and the games are free so I don't know...
The plan for the Timezone 2v2 tournament was to delay it until March when people get back, and to give anybody that wants to travel up time to organise it.
Yeah I definitely noticed that from back when I was playing Tekken in the arcades. You'll remember me Neal. Im the big Maori guy that catches up with you from time to time in the arcade... You gave me beatdowns with your jack a few weeks ago haha.
In the past we have been really lucky with sponsors and scored spot prizes. This encourages people to join in. Hopefully we can get something like that again.
Most if not all of the 2D fighter players are really eager to go to any tourneys.
Its great to see you posting here though. Hopefully some more people will follow suit.
Yeah i'd say, if they have PS3/XBOX tell dem to post up their ID for some games. Comp is dead, even on Ozhadou.
Lenny had to go and sell his fucking PS3. :-[
hahaha yeah bro I remember, ggs by the way.
It's a shame that RvB tourney never happened... It could've been really cool. Sponsorship and spot prizes are a great way to draw in new people. Unfortunately Timezone are really rigid with their prize system.
1st prize for the smaller comps is usually 100$ credit on your card. It's a pretty boring prize really, and doesn't really motivate people outside Timezone to enter. I encourage people just to play for the experience and because they get a bunch of free games.
What kind of prizes have you had in the past for NZism tournies?
Bro weve had phat prizes!!!
Joysticks, free games, comics, collectable miniatures, artbooks. Our nationals was huge!!
Infact thanks to sponsors everysingle person walked away with something. It was an awesome event!
Hey guys. Don't know if this is the right place but any advice for using Paul? He just feels so restrictive, so stiff and lacking in options. Maybe I am just not playing him right. I am still learning the timing for his JF especially as a B! ender.
SS walk to phoenix punch into wall splat into another phoenix punch!! RRWWOOOAAARRRGGHHH!
Quote from: Pinolicious on January 10, 2010, 08:57:33 PM
SS walk to phoenix punch into wall splat into another phoenix punch!! RRWWOOOAAARRRGGHHH!
Whoa!! That combos golden lol.
Quote from: Pinolicious on January 10, 2010, 08:57:33 PM
SS walk to phoenix punch into wall splat into another phoenix punch!! RRWWOOOAAARRRGGHHH!
WOAHHH!!!!
Fuck Pqul bro, pick up Law, then learn the secret of W!434 dss f3. That shits hard homy.
Quote from: weazzyefff on January 11, 2010, 03:14:42 PM
Fuck Pqul bro, pick up Law, then learn the secret of W!434 dss f3. That shits hard homy.
Law is on my list too as well as Miguel and Marduk and in preparation for them I have decked them out in pimp as customisation.
Quote from: ROCOABC on January 11, 2010, 03:41:21 PM
Quote from: weazzyefff on January 11, 2010, 03:14:42 PM
Fuck Pqul bro, pick up Law, then learn the secret of W!434 dss f3. That shits hard homy.
Law is on my list too as well as Miguel and Marduk and in preparation for them I have decked them out in pimp as customisation.
Yeah,yeah. No one online has had a badas Law as mine bro. The long jin bangs in white are banging. Plus i just sold all my other chars shiyt so i could buy the white ki. Yeah ya, looks bossing bro.
Stink thing about this game is people go more chars den me :-[ SF4 the other way around.
Bro i wana rematch, no ones man handled me as much as you did last time we vsd. Hey can you hook me up with some ID's that beat you or just really really good ones. Bcos i like it rough when i'm learning. I'm beasting heaps of cats now.
Quote from: weazzyefff on January 11, 2010, 05:44:18 PM
Quote from: ROCOABC on January 11, 2010, 03:41:21 PM
Quote from: weazzyefff on January 11, 2010, 03:14:42 PM
Fuck Pqul bro, pick up Law, then learn the secret of W!434 dss f3. That shits hard homy.
Law is on my list too as well as Miguel and Marduk and in preparation for them I have decked them out in pimp as customisation.
Yeah,yeah. No one online has had a badas Law as mine bro. The long jin bangs in white are banging. Plus i just sold all my other chars shiyt so i could buy the white ki. Yeah ya, looks bossing bro.
Stink thing about this game is people go more chars den me :-[ SF4 the other way around.
Bro i wana rematch, no ones man handled me as much as you did last time we vsd. Hey can you hook me up with some ID's that beat you or just really really good ones. Bcos i like it rough when i'm learning. I'm beasting heaps of cats now.
Heyyyyyy!!!! Rematch anytime bro. Might have to bust out my Paul and see how he handles. Also, if you look closely my Kuma wears a crown cause he is the real King of Iron Fist Tournament.
I am up for SF4 matches as well. I main Honda but I am average at best. I haven't really bothered to learn anything new with SF4. Still using SF2 tactics. I do find SF4 a little boring overall but still a fun game to play.
A few players off the top of my head that gave me real hard/good matches -
Superjackyboy - Very good Kazuya.
Tongantiger - Seems to beast with Miguel and everyone else. This guy destroyed me.
Z3nt0wn - Not bad of a player. Uses Kazuya and Devil if I recalled. My Kuma gave him trouble.
Yeah i added you for sf4 ages ago, and i played your Honda too. Cant remember results though. I'll have to play you at that, if i end up getting thrashed again lol.
Bro, damn your Kuma, he just sits there (literally) and does nothing, then when i move in, bang!!.
I ran into that Z3nt0wn in a lobby too. Were about equal lol. I came away with more wins, but he used more chars lol. Oh yeah and he could beat people in the lobby that I couldnt. Like this fucking Bob, man that fat cunt is my weakness. I'd say fuck it and play Bob if he wasnt a fat ugly piece of shit. Needs a crack pipe item, where it makes him go skinny lol.
Only reason I started playing Bob is due to his fatness. If he was a skinny dude I don't think I will even bother using him - lol.
As for Z3nt0wn, I had trouble playing him initially. I just don't know why but Kazuya gives me issues. Annoys the hell out of me when I see that spin kick coming but I don't react to it.
I need more matches but lately Demon's Soul has been taking up all my time. I feel a little bit rusty.
Quote from: ROCOABC on January 12, 2010, 06:48:53 PM
Only reason I started playing Bob is due to his fatness. If he was a skinny dude I don't think I will even bother using him - lol.
As for Z3nt0wn, I had trouble playing him initially. I just don't know why but Kazuya gives me issues. Annoys the hell out of me when I see that spin kick coming but I don't react to it.
I need more matches but lately Demon's Soul has been taking up all my time. I feel a little bit rusty.
Yeah, I heard demon souls was really good aye, i gotta play that ish.
Yeah you like the fat chars aye lol, Ganryu, E.Honda, Bob. You probably like Rufus too.
I reckon a T6 tournament would be teh baddest.
Lol, I do thinking about it now. The fatness just equates to phatness. As for Rufus, naw... can't stand the guy. His moveset isn't my cup of tea.
An offline tournament would be great but I can't play of sticks anymore so it will have to be a console (PS3) tournament so that I can bust out my combos on the pad.
You subbing any character or thinking of subbing anyone? I am sure you will be maxing up your Law skillz soon.
If/when NZism throws a t6 tourney it will be PS3, so don't worry too much.
Yeah, sony pad is teh L33T3ST, and heaps of dudes i play online are real good with it. You know when Microsoft vs Capcom in the SSF4 tournament? Yeah, they should've made Microsoft play on there pad. Only then would they realise, they dont know fucking gaming for shit, and shouldv stuck with computers.
I've been messing around with Jack 6 and A.King. Cos i want this Jack 6 i saw on youtube, he looks like this fucking badas killer robot. And I always wanted to play A.King he's like the meaner, more gangster looking version of King (except the moves lol). I always wanted to main Law, and this time i dont even touch the Mishima's, which is pretty hard to do, cos they look even more awesome in this game. I really wanted to play Marduk too, cant go wrong with a big black dude. But my mates maining him, so i cant touch.
Talking about Jack, I try to learn the guy since I know Kuma enough and play Ganryu. I thought yeah, Jack should be an easy one to pick up but man was I wrong. He is so incredibly different I stopped. Probably won't be going back to Jack in a while.
I mucked around with Marduk in practice mode. Seems pretty good. Nothing beats using a big dude that reminds me completely of Bob "The Beast" Sapps. As far as the Mishimas concerned, no one is more gangsta than Heihachi. The guys is like 1000000 years old and yet the kicks some serious butt, but from what I have seen Hehachi is pretty limited in this game just like Paul. Seems like the 2 power hitters have rather limited options now in comparison to others.
Yeah, i thought i was good to go with Jack, then used him in a game and got raped :-[ Back to the training room Jack. Speaking about hard, A.Kings iSW is starting to reallly fuck me off, i'm buffering , it just wont work for me.
Those two and Laws W! 434 dss2 f3 should keep me busy for a while.
I thought the same thing about Heiachi, till i saw this Hei player best a whole 5 man team twice in a row on Tekken crash. They had a beast as DJ in their team too.
GG's weazy
Nice Law, you got the combo's sussed out, especially the CH carry combo to wall as soon as the round starts.
Don't use db+4 too much, can be read easily and easier to block on reaction offline. When blocked, you're open to eat a free launcher.
Also, don't spam strings too much, again it's easy to get a CH launcher in between.
From what I read, most Christie's are turtles, but against my Christie, just wait it out, I get impatient and go pitbull. I always try to bait string spammers with a jab and counter their next move with her launchers (qcf+3, db+1+2, CH df+2), but if you wait it out, you can punish if blocked or if I whiff.
A good Christie will mixup her moves into HSP or RLX with frame advantage. If they make the mistake of going into stances without that frame advantage, just hit them out of stance with db+3
Hey ggs bro
Yeah db 4 is bad i know, but so is slide, i got juggled after that shit too lol. Tried not to spam strings but, i got that fuck it attitude when i'm getting raped by christie. Just found out that back 2,2 was doing good on her stance aye, but too little too raped lol.
Man, you go a shitload of chars aye. Too bad Christies the only one i cant beat. I was surprised, i thought if i ever ran into a Christie, Law would rape her, cos of his db 4, but man it's too slow, she just smaked me out of it and juggle. But yeah b,2,2 starts the juggle on her from the stance, i was like yeah!!. Then proceeded to get thrashed.
I was hoping you'lld go turtle, so i can mix up mind games. But it was the other way round, where i dont do good against chars i dont have much experience against. Her stance was decisiving me, i just kept blocking low, cos of the animations.
Christies now on the list of chars that have to die, along with Bob and Lilli.
Lol, I can ONLY play Christie competitively, every other character I used can't be taken seriously :P
The slide is a good mixup in the correct range. When Law crouches and people see him wiggle (due to the direction inputs to perform the slide), they prepare for it and block low. So mix it up with ws+2 (or an even safer launcher/punisher, I don't know Law that well) obviously, this needs to be done in range of the launcher, cause if it's outside, everybody will just expect the slide.
Christie has mad oki, she can pick up almost anything with qcf+3 into her combo strings. You have to mixup the way you get up, otherwise you could reset her bound and eat another free combo. Sometimes it's better to just lie there and take a small hit then get up after that.
Yeah thats the mix up i usually do. But i was getting rushed like a bitch. I started to rage and smash buttons to get up. I dont handle pitbulls too well. Cos i'm a pitbull too, it's easier then trying to block shit you've never seen before, thats for sure.
The slide is still risky though, you can be juggled on block. Yet your Christies the only one to really take advantage of it. Thanks for the tip on the range of my slide aye, i was wondering how you were reading me so well. I didnt wana get close, cos the notation for iWS2 and slide leaves you without block for too long. And your pitbull Christie kept hop kicking, in that range and scooping me up. Thats why i wanted you to turtle ya bastard. Her hop kick got some range on that.
Hey guys. We need to get a room going.
Fuck da room. Lets meet up at someones house and get krunk and blazed and thrash some strip tekken (with chicks of course).
Quote from: weazzyefff on January 15, 2010, 08:03:27 PM
Fuck da room. Lets meet up at someones house and get krunk and blazed and thrash some strip tekken (with chicks of course).
Party ooooonnnnnn!!!! Yeah yeah.
Don't know about the strip part as I don't want to shame you fellas.
Quote from: ROCOABC on January 16, 2010, 01:54:37 AM
Quote from: weazzyefff on January 15, 2010, 08:03:27 PM
Fuck da room. Lets meet up at someones house and get krunk and blazed and thrash some strip tekken (with chicks of course).
Party ooooonnnnnn!!!! Yeah yeah.
Don't know about the strip part as I don't want to shame you fellas.
Negro please my dicks so big....it will be inside playing tekken while i'm outside smoking weed.
And after that we'll throw on the new Hulk vs My Dick movie. And my dick won, and was so big it rejected calls from Spielberg to make spin off ''My Dick vs'' movies.
Hulk vs your dick? What is that? A gay porn?
Quote from: ILL_BILL on January 19, 2010, 08:23:51 AM
Hulk vs your dick? What is that? A gay porn?
You wish ya dirty homo.
Dont you watch the Hulk vs movies? In this one he squares off againt my dick for an hour but in the end my dick was too strong. He tried rage and split into all 3 forms of the Hulk to save the world from my gigantic meat and two veg. But was no match. Next year it's The justice League vs My Dick.
Quote from: weazzyefff on January 16, 2010, 02:05:28 AM
Quote from: ROCOABC on January 16, 2010, 01:54:37 AM
Quote from: weazzyefff on January 15, 2010, 08:03:27 PM
Fuck da room. Lets meet up at someones house and get krunk and blazed and thrash some strip tekken (with chicks of course).
Party ooooonnnnnn!!!! Yeah yeah.
Don't know about the strip part as I don't want to shame you fellas.
Negro please my dicks so big....it will be inside playing tekken while i'm outside smoking weed.
And after that we'll throw on the new Hulk vs My Dick movie. And my dick won, and was so big it rejected calls from Spielberg to make spin off ''My Dick vs'' movies.
Came back after being too busy and I read this post. Bro, thats some crazy shit you got there. Better hit up Stan Lee and get this on a comic book.
wasnt in the mood to make a new topic.
but lars alexandersson will be in the nwe naruto game, ultimate ninja storm 2
(http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/3315/up11566.jpg)
if youre not aware, the creator of naruto designed lars 3P outfit