So I've come to the conclusion that my reaction times are balls but I wanna see how balls they are compared to the rest of NZism
http://www.gamefudge.com/Reaction-Time-Trainer
Post up your average time(s)
I'm averaging about 0.23 seconds...balls
Don't be shy now
0.24 oh well good enough for street fighter lol
0.26....still playing the fastest fighting Mvc2 game......thats y not da top yet :-\
0.211 on 2nd attempt
edit: Also, despite how it may seem, reaction times aren't really all that important in SF. Knowing the options an opponent has vs what your options are, and which ones he's likely to do is far more important.
0.34 second try, fucken bull shit.
Quote from: fluxcore on May 16, 2009, 12:32:39 PM
0.211 on 2nd attempt
edit: Also, despite how it may seem, reaction times aren't really all that important in SF. Knowing the options an opponent has vs what your options are, and which ones he's likely to do is far more important.
Obviously knowing your options is important but if you can't execute the 'options' fast enough then those options aren't really options. For instance Chun li can Ultra Honda's standing roundhouse on block which is fairly important in hondas footsie game. If you can't ultra Honda's standing roundhouse on reaction then it is no longer an option and Honda can go back to harassing you with his s.rh
I think Justin Wong mentioned in the gootecks podcasts that he believed SF is 60% execution, 30% reactions and the rest mindgames. Not sure I agree but his game is heavily focused on his reactions (the man punishes chuns whiffed low foward with chuns SA 2 in 3s :o) and you can't argue with his results.
Quote from: weazzyefff on May 16, 2009, 02:44:33 PM
0.34 second try, fucken bull shit.
You been on the beers? Makes you slower aye
Quote from: Toomeke on May 16, 2009, 02:52:05 PM
Quote from: weazzyefff on May 16, 2009, 02:44:33 PM
0.34 second try, fucken bull shit.
You been on the beers? Makes you slower aye
hey yeah true , never thought of that.
yeah my reactions are good on sf4 but i need to work on punishing better, getting the most damaging combo in when i get an opurtunity, i sometimes just do stupid ones like sweep, and throw.
Quote from: weazzyefff on May 16, 2009, 03:09:21 PM
yeah my reactions are good on sf4 but i need to work on punishing better, getting the most damaging combo in when i get an opurtunity, i sometimes just do stupid ones like sweep, and throw.
Agreed, we talk about this quite a bit now ;) I think remembering to correctly punish given opportunity is what is keeping me from really going nuts with Viper competitively I reckon. I know Ben and I have had discussion on this briefly in the past, it's well worth having a good chat over in person next time we meet up eh. :)
As for the Honda vs Chunli thing, even that is not all reaction time. If you know he's trying for st.RH, you look for it. It's no longer just a case of 'OH I blocked his kick, better do ultra', its 'I'm waiting for him to kick, there he goes, I'm blocking it, I ultra'. If you train it in training mode (and you KNOW justin wong does this), it just becomes muscle memory. Sure you still have to be able to do it in the first place, and I guess if you can't get it at all in training then you should either find a char that doesn't need to do that to beat Honda, or quit playing.
There are always other options. If your character demands too much execution skills for you, then find someone else.
BTW all these old guys (30+, 40+ year old players) are still top of the heap at games like ST, even though they don't have the reactions and whatnot they used to. It's because of the knowledge of the game. Justin isn't near the best at ST, despite his reactions.
Quote from: fluxcore on May 16, 2009, 05:06:20 PM
BTW all these old guys (30+, 40+ year old players) are still top of the heap at games like ST, even though they don't have the reactions and whatnot they used to. It's because of the knowledge of the game. Justin isn't near the best at ST, despite his reactions.
I feel like an egg for posting it but...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XE9pQS1N3U
:D
Anyways I agree with you for the most part. I sit in training mode practicing lots of things that involve using your reactions. For instance doing Ultra thru fireballs with Boxer. I can't do it consistently against the computer even when its the main thing I'm looking for. Something much more important is teching walk up throws and anti airing meaty cross-ups. I know I can stop meaty crossups (not on wakeup obviously) from Ryu by using boxers s.mp but instead I sit there going "oh shit I could have hit him...I think he's guna cross me up again so I'll hit then...oh shit now he's crossing me up again....and again"
Game knowledge owns reactions no doubt but if I can't anti air jump-ins, cross-ups and tech throws consistently I'm gona get owned by someone with a cross-up
woot second try 0.187 :)
averaging 0.19, probably from playing marvel so much
i got 0.196 3 times in a row. So im thinking thats it.
Quote from: Toomeke on May 16, 2009, 05:53:46 PM
Game knowledge owns reactions no doubt but if I can't anti air jump-ins, cross-ups and tech throws consistently I'm gona get owned by someone with a cross-up
Well, that's precisely the reason Boxer ain't all that in the JP tiers, he really has nothing against cross ups. Tech throws is a different matter I suppose, that's really just yomi though (I'm pretty shit at it, but you can blame a lot on online).
0.286
Never worried that much lol
Quote from: ILL_BILL on May 16, 2009, 07:33:51 PM
i got 0.196 3 times in a row. So im thinking thats it.
Snap back requires pro reflexes =P I'm .23 =(
0.24 1st try
0.23 second try
0.195 3rd try
0.195......argh....
too slow laaaa >:(
.212
Not bad for an old fogey pushing 34. Who says reflexes fade with age :P
Fuck you david. Beating me out by 0.001 seconds.
Quote from: geneterror on May 18, 2009, 01:10:20 PM
.212
Not bad for an old fogey pushing 34. Who says reflexes fade with age :P
Depends what your score would have been 15 years ago :D
got a 0.184 on my first attempt. doesn't seem to help me in sf4 tho...
Its quite funny/interesting how the religious marvel players fare compared to the rest. Fucking mashers.
lol ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
0.172
0.188
0.172
0.172
0.125
average = 0.166 ??? ??? ???
Jeez ryan. Little less crack on your weetbix in the morning from now on. k?
adds the needed zest to get me up in the morning.
Milk... crack... same diff..
Quote from: Ryan on May 20, 2009, 12:12:44 AM
adds the needed zest to get me up in the morning.
Milk... crack... same diff..
that GOOD morning wake up
0.199 KoF player :D
You know the SF4 and Marvel were what gave you those reflexes
Quote from: Smoofikith on May 21, 2009, 09:23:43 AM
You know the SF4 and Marvel were what gave you those reflexes
marvel is our crack :o ;D ::) :P
0.23
i only need fast reactions for shooting people with AHVB.
Omg I can't even do THAT properly =_=
tried again and got .207
my hands are kinda cold, but whatever.
Just got:
0.201
0.273
0.078
0.18
0.176
Ave: 0.181
Play VF and SF. playing more SF4 now though.
Exactly ...wot u guys waiting for? all MVC2 player doesnt react as fast as u do ...prove Marvel vs Capcom 2 is not hard to learn.... 8) 8) 8)
Sorry for bringing up this old topic lol -- just been digging around the forums
anyway, got 0.204 average with one 0.171
I don't think i've ever really had problems with reactions -- more just knowing what options I have and what to react WITH
Yeah, that was pretty much my argument. Knowing your options makes so much difference.
lol i get my times from awping noobs on the NZ cs1.5 servers.
Fuck reaction times. Its all about the style baby!!!
Quote from: Lennysaurus Rex on June 04, 2009, 09:31:55 PM
Fuck reaction times. Its all about the style baby!!!
The Truth
Fuck reaction times, I got a .114