Yeah i still cant do this consistently on the 1pl side. I can hit it everytime on the 2pl side just by twitching a little.
I found this new way, even though i think one of you's allready told me, but i was determined to do it the way i learnt on pad which is the normal/long way.
It goes like this-- f, d, df - Hp,f -mk-mp, f, ULTRA.
I can get it 40% now at the most but it seems this way is easier to learn as i've only tried it for like 30min . But thought i'lld check here before i end up learning it the wrong way. So would it have any disadvantages to doing it this way somewhere down the road.
AND calling all Ryu players who can hit it consistently on 1P side obviously, to please speak up, and tell us YOUR method. I'm looking at you Zosla and Hue.
That's most definitely the best way to fadc, f-mk+mp-f. When I was first learning it I used to sit down and just practice doing that motion, getting the left and right hand in sync so you get a nice triple tap kind of feel.
Quote from: Ashe on November 01, 2009, 11:09:34 PM
That's most definitely the best way to fadc, f-mk+mp-f. When I was first learning it I used to sit down and just practice doing that motion, getting the left and right hand in sync so you get a nice triple tap kind of feel.
Oh yeah true, i'm gonna go practice the shit out of it now.
So what uppercut motion's the best.
I do the dash then the focus, so I go f,d,df,f+hp,f+mp+mk, (slight delay,) ultra. I'm pretty sure the forward is buffered in the shoryuken motion or else I'm just doing the dash fast, but I always press focus on the second forward input. I hit it pretty much every time and same for the srk->fadc->shaku with akuma.
My uppercut motion in all street fighters is always hold forward then hadouken. If you're crouching though you might wanna try one of the crouch inputs like df,df+hp or I think it's db,d,df+hp.
Quote from: massi4h on November 01, 2009, 11:43:45 PM
I do the dash then the focus, so I go f,d,df,f+hp,f+mp+mk, (slight delay,) ultra. I'm pretty sure the forward is buffered in the shoryuken motion or else I'm just doing the dash fast, but I always press focus on the second forward input. I hit it pretty much every time and same for the srk->fadc->shaku with akuma.
My uppercut motion in all street fighters is always hold forward then hadouken. If you're crouching though you might wanna try one of the crouch inputs like df,df+hp or I think it's db,d,df+hp.
Whoa, thats trippy. I didn't know you could dash BEFORE the FA. Sounds like i'm gonna like this way best.
That last DP motion, db,d,df-hp, I dont think thats a uppercut bro, how the hell does THAT uppercut lol.
it's actually df, d, df + p, df, df + p doesn't actually work.
Quote from: fluxcore on November 02, 2009, 08:52:48 AM
it's actually df, d, df + p, df, df + p doesn't actually work.
I'm pretty sure you can do df, df + p to get a Shoryu, since the first DF represents a toward, as well as a down in one go.
The way you're doing it now weezy is juuuust about how I do it... but instead of doing
f, d, df + p,
f + mp + mk, f
I do...
f, d, df + p,
df + mp + mk, f
My way means you can just hold the stick down in the corner after doing the Shoryu and tap focus, then go back to neutral and slap forward one more time
oh god -.-
I don't understand those ancient writtings at all....
new generation = just hit practice for for a few days!!!
Quote from: electric on November 02, 2009, 09:05:53 AM
Quote from: fluxcore on November 02, 2009, 08:52:48 AM
it's actually df, d, df + p, df, df + p doesn't actually work.
I'm pretty sure you can do df, df + p to get a Shoryu, since the first DF represents a toward, as well as a down in one go.
Maybe if you mash out DF, but a true df, df + p won't get you that sweet dragon goodness.
I do mine: f, d, df + p - mp+mk(press) f,f mp+mp(release), Ultra
weazzyefff: What happens when you miss it? Do you miss the dash during the focus?
gino: that's a much kinder way of responding than I was going to, thanks.
Quote from: Gino on November 02, 2009, 09:22:39 AM
Maybe if you mash out DF, but a true df, df + p won't get you that sweet dragon goodness.
Fair enough, I stand corrected
Quote from: zosla on November 02, 2009, 09:12:14 AM
oh god -.-
I don't understand those ancient writtings at all....
new generation = just hit practice for for a few days!!!
Actually it's the opposite. The older generation tended to learn through play whereas the newer generation tend to study and apply more.
Quote from: fluxcore on November 02, 2009, 09:51:14 AM
gino: that's a much kinder way of responding than I was going to, thanks.
Then maybe you need to work on your responses. ;) Combos aren't the only thing we can practice. :D
Yeah I always dash before the FA, since you're still doing your shoryuken the dash buffers in and then when you press focus it dashes right away. I always do this with akuma cause to hit your shaku you really need to do it instantly. With ryu, if you dash straight away you have a to put in a slight delay before activating ultra or else they'll bounce off the first hit.
Are you sure df,df+hp doesn't work for shoryukens? Whenever I try it it does unless it's just me being a spaz on the stick. And maybe the crouching one was d,db,d,df+hp. I know if you have a keyboard you can do a crouch blocking one by holding db and pressing f,f+hp lol.
Quote from: massi4h on November 02, 2009, 11:28:12 AM
Yeah I always dash before the FA, since you're still doing your shoryuken the dash buffers in and then when you press focus it dashes right away.
Interesting. I've heard of people buffering the dash before the focus, but I never really learnt how to do it. I may pinch this method to teach to a mate (no homo) who has a bit of consistency problems doing lp gou-shoryu FADC shaku. Cheers Mason!
Bro everywhere i've been looking for help like SRK, and eventhubs, they clearly state df,df,p is a shortcut DP motion, but a stink one imo.
Anyways when i miss it it's because i gotta like already be doing the ultra input while he's dashing, so i gotta dash, and then ultra by thinking the dash is already coming out.
Ya kna wa i mean. ? No? Oh well, it'll come to me, you's really helped though, i'm getting better at. I just cant wait till i'm monster mashing m DP reversal out on the 1p side and then cancelling it into Ultra without even thinking about. Stupid fucking pad has corrupted my learning curve. It took a couple ex-pad warriors 6 months on SRK, and their having the same probs as me.
Mason: You were prob going db,d,df,d,df, p
Thats the way i do it when linking the bnb.
Zosla: Just tell me how YOU do it please for some insight, cos i played alot like you on pad. ( Oh god here we go ).
Quote from: weazzyefff on November 02, 2009, 01:06:54 PM
Bro everywhere i've been looking for help like SRK, and eventhubs, they clearly state df,df,p is a shortcut DP motion, but a stink one imo.
Very well, but if you look HARDER on srk you'll see it doesn't actually work. If you want to reproduce it, go into training and just TRY df, df + P. Either you'll see other directions in between, or you won't be doing a dragon punch.
Quote from: fluxcore on November 02, 2009, 09:51:14 AM
gino: that's a much kinder way of responding than I was going to, thanks.
I think I was still hungover when I wrote that
Edit:
Why DF,DF + P works (some of the time) is that usually you aren't hitting DF, but D then DF or F then DF. This might be different depending on the type of gate you have on your stick (4/8). Go to training mode and try doing DF,DF+P with no F or D in between, not that easy if I remember correctly.
Quote from: fluxcore on November 02, 2009, 01:18:58 PM
Quote from: weazzyefff on November 02, 2009, 01:06:54 PM
Bro everywhere i've been looking for help like SRK, and eventhubs, they clearly state df,df,p is a shortcut DP motion, but a stink one imo.
Very well, but if you look HARDER on srk you'll see it doesn't actually work. If you want to reproduce it, go into training and just TRY df, df + P. Either you'll see other directions in between, or you won't be doing a dragon punch.
Yeah i kinda woulda just taken SRk/Eventhubs word for it, but i went and tried and you and Gino are right, it DOES NOT work. Why they lie for.
It only works if thats what they think they are doing but really it's hitting df,f,df or df,d,df. Man they really aren't helping by giving us wrong shortcut motions, even though it sounded like a dumb one in the first place.
Quote from: weazzyefff on November 02, 2009, 01:48:19 PM
Quote from: fluxcore on November 02, 2009, 01:18:58 PM
Quote from: weazzyefff on November 02, 2009, 01:06:54 PM
Bro everywhere i've been looking for help like SRK, and eventhubs, they clearly state df,df,p is a shortcut DP motion, but a stink one imo.
Very well, but if you look HARDER on srk you'll see it doesn't actually work. If you want to reproduce it, go into training and just TRY df, df + P. Either you'll see other directions in between, or you won't be doing a dragon punch.
Yeah i kinda woulda just taken SRk/Eventhubs word for it, but i went and tried and you and Gino are right, it DOES NOT work. Why they lie for.
It only works if thats what they think they are doing but really it's hitting df,f,df or df,d,df. Man they really aren't helping by giving us wrong shortcut motions, even though it sounded like a dumb one in the first place.
Basically, if you hold the stick down, and wiggle it left to right, you get a DP. Somewhere here is where they got confused.
Fuck i finally got this up to 80% consistency. Went away for awhile , came back and now i'm back to like 2%. Aweeessoomee.
Charge chars ftw.
Can you do your dragon 100% from both sides? Can you do your ultra 100% from both sides? If not, get those to 100% Then do FADC. It's not like there's a short window or anything needing you to buffer or w/e
yeah bro, but it's like i gotta get the dash sorted or something, because when i do it, he's still FA'ing when i'm buffering the ultra. AND if i do succeed on dashing, i have to wait till i see it dash then i fuck up the Ultra motion.
On 2p side i can Dp , fadc, then wait to see if hes actually dashed then just ultra quick as like lightning speed, same as on pad ( both sides).
It just sucks how i have to know its gonna dash, so i can buffer it. I gave to be buffering while hes actually dashing.
Maybe i'm just arcade stick impaired .
take a look at how i do it on saturday mate and learn :)
I know exactly what you problem is, you aren't as good as executing on P1 side with your ultra which is one of the issue, the other, well wait till saturday and see if you can spot our differences. I had the same issue as you and It took me some time to work out why it is that I had that issue. Once you figure it out you will feel like.. so stupid lol.
Oh yup sweet bro, damn i was trying hard as to figure it before then too, so i could beast you lol.
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Dream, dream, dream.
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hahaha I know you want to. But takes more than that to take me down la, but then agian I might get my ass kicked anyways!!!