So I was thinking, the best way for us to level up and get more people into the scene is with ranbats.
Having something on the line will inspire us to play better and level up our community.
So ideas:
2 - 5 bucks
Run every 2nd week
Round Robin
2 setups
Casuals/lessons on the side
Round robin
So basically everyone plays everyone in 3 games. Points are tallied and top 2 or tied players play off and 1st place adds points to their score.
So why not double elim?
This makes every win count. So even if you don't win the whole thing you still stay in the game.
Mashmaster tradition
Thinking about people that go zero and win no matches. Bottom players play it out for bonus points. Also if one player has more points at bottom. The player with the least points had to win two sets. Other guy has to win one.
PRIZES etc
Is dunners still rockin ssf4 tourneys?
We could send our winners to Dunedin maybe or the top 3 get cash every 3 or so months, or save up for nationals.
Needs:
Gear
We have enough ps3 goodness to go round but supporting xbox would be rad. I'll have a dual mod stick in a month or two so we can support x360 pad etc
Venue
My pad is all good but I'll ask gamestation as well. Upside would be more random punters downside would be we'd have to pay gamestation to run overtime or start REALLY early.
So, thoughts?
Round Robin takes ages. If you have randoms show up, do you have enough time and setups to finish at an appropriate hour that will make people want to come back?
I like this idea
What Smoof said. If we have the time then I don't mind the Round Robin idea. It'll be cool to play against everyone and in the process we'll all get a lota exp.
But I don't think double elimination is bad idea either. For those who go 0 - 2 we can help them improve on the casual setups and maybe inspire them to get better? I don't really say anything when it comes to giving tips since I really don't feel like I'm good enough to do so but I'll try just to help our scene grow further :)
I reckon round robin if it's less than 8-10 players cos then it's just like fighting your way out of pools for the main event anyways.
But Double elim for over those numbers. Then it's like an event in itself anyways.
As for advice for players, I reckon any advice from anyone in our scene is valid at this stage. In our local scene what works for us is fine to pass on as advice I reckon. Don't be shy about tips man, I've heard you give really good advice to the guys. I didn't even know about Instant air CS into Ultra or heaps of other stuff before you guys told/showed me. :)
Hi Cpt Munta, our tourneys died off as there were not enough 'serious' players. Pretty much cleaned up by Devilleto and MJ-Tahana. had one player pulled out of the tourney after got beaten hard, and he never play anymore after that... I think it is a good idea to build south island community. Was meant to discuss with you guys up in chch and see what we can do together.
Xboxes aren't problem for us, we have 12 in the shop and 2 more on the 50inch. We have 2 SE stick (one is mine, modded with Seimitsu stick) and one tekken stick. One of my staff and another regular customer has SE stick with sanwa parts. Pretty much gear/equipment is not a problem here.
Any ideas for a combined community? We have xbox live on all our machines, except for those on 50inch but we can get that hooked up. We were running weekly sessions here on thursday nights, but only few of us who are the regulars. I'm thinking of running sessions Online, ie allocating 4 of my machines for Endless Battles, 2 for more serious play, and 2 for newcomers/beginners. Depending on how reliable the connection going to be, we planned to involve cash prizes etc like an online tourney (and yeah, I realize there will be lots to consider regarding lag, dropout, judge etc).
On the other hand, I'm also keen to get involved in other fighting games, wouldn't mind picking up on any fighting games as long as there is potential to grow it (since timezone in Dunedin has closed down). If community in the ChCh is willing to have a trip down to Dunedin with enough numbers, I wouldn't mind throwing in a hundred bucks or so as guaranteed prize on top of the entries, to get it going.
I've had enough of hearing news about events in auck, auck, auck, auck and bloody auck. Lets have some down here. South Island will have Gamerz Club's support, provided we have the resources for it ;)
Look forward to any ideas and feedback. Apologize for the long reply. Thanks.
Raz
Gamerz Club Dunedin
XboxLive : mysteryz82
Wow that sounds freaking Rad. I hate to talk about Auckland in your topic but that venue sounds pretty sweet dude, and I'd kill to have something like that in Auckland.
Anywhoo, if you guys have it some time during the uni break in janruary or february and give plenty of notice I wouldn't mind rocking down there tbh. Just need notice for tickets/spending cash/Motel Bookings etc. Some sort of rad South Island tourney hahaha.
that sounds awesome. Good Luck with this.
haha just kidding with auck thing, might have a gamerz club auck one day :P . Just feeling its pretty dead down here in terms of fighting games, unlike mw2 which always used up all my discs. Me, my staff and couple more regulars are just really keen :)
Hi Raz indeed it does sounds freaking awesome!
Hmmmmm I'd have to think about how we would swing it. The next tourney I was kinda thinking about was the mvc3 launch party in march. Hopefully with hookups from capcom like last time.
We've had 4 chch tourneys this year already and I was kinda thinking about ranbats as a way of keeping the scene going till the next tourney. But I would definitely love to combine communities! Have a special South Island tourney. Maybe early next year or I could reboot the Holiday Hadokens tourney idea. Just need some sort of hook to pull in new players.
I know it's a really long shot but if I could swing getting some mvc3 preview code or something to attract players from around the country that would be awesome! Though doubt it would happen. We could have a launch party tourney and then head to dunners and play you guys.
We have a split of players between ps3 and xbox at the moment. One guy has a xbox te and hori. I have a ps3 te (which will be dual modded soon) and a sanwa modded se. RAF has a sanwa se as well and some ps2 sticks and convertors. We have a couple more Xbox pad warriors and PS3 pad warriors. So don't know how we would go about online tourneys just yet. Maybe online team tourney or something. Auckland vs Christchurch vs Dunedin. :)
So in short, aside all my ramblings mega keen! ;D We should talk more. Might rename this thread. MJT popped down to christchurch when our scene was just kicking off. Be good to play him again :)
Auck vs Chch vs Dud.
Mad keen. :D
Sounds like a plan CptMunta. I'll talk to the crew here. Look forward to hear from you again. :D
Depending on time/date I'm keen for a roadtrip to Dunedin! Man didn't realise Deviletto and MJT were from there!
Fucking awesome ;D
Yeah i know that MJ Tahana guy. He play on psn ay. Got a nice Sagat man. He's the only one that doesn't let me dash foward and crossup after SK. And i know some top guys that are too slow for that one lol.
So is this where we post our next upcoming tourny in AUCKKALLLANNNDDD!!!!
hmm who is Deviletto and MJT ??? SF4 players?
any clips of their gameplay? pretty keen to check it out.
btw, if we had support from GamerzClub in Auckland.. our scene would grow even bigger.
We are restricted from Venue and sponsorship in AKL, which sucks as I believe we can do better if we had such, just like Good Games in Sydney are big supporters for the SF4\ OzHadou scene there.
Its great to see south island doing so well!!!! gW!!
They both play on PSN. Devilleto brings his pS and plays at my shop. But some times he goes on the xbox and use our accounts.
Yeah when time (and money) comes, will definitely look into north island. :)
Quote from: GamerzClub on October 21, 2010, 01:54:45 PM
They both play on PSN. Devilleto brings his pS and plays at my shop. But some times he goes on the xbox and use our accounts.
Yeah when time (and money) comes, will definitely look into north island. :)
icic.
U should of started with north island in the first place :P !@!!!
nah its good they started with the south island first zosla, auckland has a pretty good scene already which you guys are doing a great job of expanding, they are just trying to develop scenes elsewhere, and are still looking into auckland by the sounds of that last post if they get enough funds. better having a spread out scene instead of one huge scene at the top off the new zealand. At least everyone will level up.
Deviletto is pretty damn good if he is the same guy I was playing on PSN a while back.
It was more or less of a joking comment, but business wise it would be wise to start somewhere that has the demand and population for it.
If you talk community wise, yes I would agree that having other cities own scene would help us overall.
@Graeme, now you're making inching to play these names that are coming forward^^
just an idea gamerzclub, i know that your ssf4 weekly tournament has stopped but maybe instead of tournament you could have weekly or fortnightly training sesh or mashup like ChCh. so instead of paying $7 + $3 for venue just pay $3 for venue and no prize pot and you could promote it as a "do you want to level up your ssf4 game" or something like that to get people into it without the worry of money and have yourself, MJT, Devilletto help out the new guys. Because my experience with SSF4 players is that its more about the gathering and levelling up than the cash, well thats how i feel anyway just an idea bro, you will be talking with cptmunta anyway and i'm pretty sure he'll have some beast ideas anyway. Good luck bro.
True that, however it can be useful to have a tournament running even with no prize, just to keep things focussed - and to get used to tournament pressure of course!
Hi thanks for the ideas. Yea we been running sessions instead of tourneys. The tourney lasted only twice since i opened. We've been doing sessions ($5 dollars from 7.30pm-close 1am, on 2 of our 50inches, winner stay loser rotate) but still only a few of us are turning up. No new players. Maybe the beginner's session will be good, and have been toying with the idea of an event day either instore or in the meridian mall, have 3 or 4 machines setup just for fighting games. Couple to show/promote with combo vids, trailers, big events overseas etc and the other 2 for playing for fun. Idea is to have a public challenge/participation (altho we not the best, but i think competitive enough :P). Free play to the public and if they beat any of us they get free hour voucher. Just an idea tho....
Regarding center in North island/ bigger cities.. Have thought of all those be4 opening, and I agree with what the local NZ people say; if your business model/plan works in the south, it should work anywhere in the country. Its tough down here with the cold, being student town, fluctuations of spenditure etc etc. But I guarantee if it works well in this 2 years, north island will have a branch of Gamerz Club ;)
Thanks for the support! Much appreciated!
Okay here's a somewhat convoluted idea ;D
Both of us run either round robin (If under 10 people) or double elim (If over) Ranbats every second week.
Then either:
The winners from tourneys in both cities battle it out online to see who is the chap.
Top 2, 3 or 4 from tourneys in both cities battle it out online to see who is the chap.
So why every second week:
Every other week we have a casual online SF4 setup between both cities to test connection etc...
Why ranbats?:
Players get points wether they win or lose. The more dedicated players get more points if they keep showing up and the top players get more points since at the end of each tourney points are allocated according to how well you did. Also points from each ranbat add up so at the end of the season we could have some sort of play off between cities. So that way people are encouraged to return and hold onto their investment. Also we could do some sort of random prize at the end of every season so that players over a certain number of points and aren't top three can win something cool.
Prizes:
Ranbats need to cost the same in each city for it to be fair or at least minus the venue fee. At the moment ranbats in CHCH are at peoples houses so we have no venue fee. Whereas you guys have to pay rent. Maybe half the total ranbat fee from both cities goes go to the winner of the online match each ranbat or something. And the rest goes back into each communities scene for something special up for grabs come playoff time.
Why round robin?:
At the Dutchnoobz2 tourney in Holland and Winner Stays on tourney in London both started with round robin pools and then the winners each pool seeded the main event. Round Robin is great because every player in RR gets the same number of matches. So a newcomer won't get 2 games and is peaced out like in double elim, discouraging them to stick with it. It also means everyone gets to play a variety of characters and learn matchups for when we play Auckland.
North Vs South?
Could be the cultavation of all our efforts. Money raised between both our sessions could send a South Island team to Major tournies in Auckland. Either Nationals or Barfights or whatever. Top 3-5 from both cities get to go to Auckland.
So alot of this could be "pie in the sky" but I think it might be worth thinking about. I can help with promotion for Dunedin (Posters mashmaster prizes etc...) and also post stuff up at Gamestation in CHCH. I'm just pretty buzy with the SF travel doco atm but I could recycle ;)
So whatta you guys reckon? Maybe this should be posted in the Dunedin Gamerzclub thread too?
Keen as max. Just let us know what you need us to do. I think we'll need do make some fliers to get more people to at least try it out, then the ranbats will work. So yeah any help with posters will be very much appreciated. We can get it printed quite cheaply here. I'll talk to devilleto again and possibly we might pick a night and host, vice versa, test connection. Possibly thursday night. Let us know eh. Cheers.
sounds like a good idea
looking way cool down there yo!!!
Ganbate!!!!!
Sweet :) will have to run it by the guys next mashup and see what suits. Only hurdles I can forsee is picking a night that everyone is free and making a back up plan if a woman goes into labour ;) (wife is a midwife and I'd have to take care of my daughter) I'll run it by gamestation and see if they can host. Even if we space it out every month the Dunedin vs chch special ranbat.
I'm definitely down with the Chch/Duners Collab! I should be free mainly on Fri or Sun nights but I'd probably perfer Sunday night.
I hope Chatteris is reading all this because this is how to build a scene.
Charteris wants you to know that he is reading, and that he's assembling his troops ready to pounce on you southerners.
He wants you to be prepared.
I think though we have other hurdles as well. Or player base in CHCH isn't that epic in size either atm. 12 people on a good night, 4 or so on a not so hot night. Also it may pay to wait on the ranbats till after exams and unis finished since it ties alot of our crew up.
I have no quams in helping out Dunedin with posters and what not. I'll just recycle some of our tourney posters and stuff. I'll try to get onto it once we iron out details.
I think every time a new game is released the numbers spike and then taper off as people start doing other things. I think it'll be buzzing again when Marvel 3 comes out or whe the Arcade Edition stuff hits console.
But that doesn't mean we can't have inter city battles in the meantime. :) I'll hook my PS3 up wirelessly for this Fridays mashup incase you guys are on. My handle is CptMunta or even text me: 021 162 7071. I'll hookup my headset too so you guys can chat if you have one. We should have a couple of guys keen to get some games in.
o o o o o o o o me me me plz :P
raise hands.. for xBox360 :P
how hard will it be to have to inter city online setup during the ranbats/ mashup? 2 setups from each city, so say 6 setups alltogether and host a lobby of 6????? or 2x lobby of 3?
will be good to play people that are out of auckland and stuff.
meh just a thought....
It's a really good idea man. They will get a pretty bad beasting from Auckland though. But then they will see where we are at. I wish we could play Japan :'(
cptmunta: Will let devilletto know about the friday matchup so he can bring his ps3. i probably wont be playing as friday nights are quite busy here...i think u are right about the exams and stuff. might have to wait till they are over.
thanks for the posters. will look forward to that but no rush eh. Thanks for the effort and time. much appreciated. :)
too be honest the auckland to dunedin lag is horrible .
i get green bars to aussie now , and red bars or no bars to mysteryz down there in dunners .
christchurch is a possibility if someone there has cable or a super good upload speed
not to be a downer but its not gunna work , too laggy g's .
Really. Yeah we quite lag with auckland some how. Getting green bars with aussie and some others in nz too. But with terrormove in dud also yellow or orange bar, cant get green. Devilleto with his ps3 seems to be not too bad using our connection here. Will have try again next time. Hope telstra will let us know that we can use cable soon. Our area here can't support cable or fibre even if i wanna pay for it. grrr
Topic locked due to mentioning Charteris.
Fuck you guys are lucky im not responsible enough to be a mod.
Quote from: [NIUE] BIRRY WONG on October 30, 2010, 06:24:55 AM
Topic locked due to mentioning Charteris.
Fuck you guys are lucky im not responsible enough to be a mod.
Hhahhahahaha!!! Farrrkkk........
I wonder how much fibre gonna cost ay.
Ok current plan. I'm going to get my stick dual modded move my modem downstairs then we can start challenging Gamersclub. (Next month I think) That way all our xbox and ps3 pad players have an equal chance. Give me a holla when you are goin to start things up on your end and I'll make up some posters and send you through the files :)
right o we have comformation of xbox :)
We'll see you guys online tonight for casuals and message you from either Redtie's or Loomie's xbox. It's be in the room next door though.
Gonna be fun :)
Were hooked up and ready to go. Gamertag ChirpyFlame8297 we've invited you guys. Let's do it!
Hey CptMunta,
Sorry about last night, it was a bit of confusion as what we were doing and we ended up just playing among ourselves... ChirpyFlame, sweet will look for that gamertag next time.
Next week will confirm to have a session with you guys...I'll make sure it happens this time.
GGs everyone! CVS2 was fun! Can't wait to play the boys in Aux :) Also glad that I managed to get a few wins over Andy too ;D
Loomie you weird guy! First you pefer an Xbox Pad over anything else and now we find out that you're at your best when there's no music and no voice on?! Haha man thats crazy lol Anyways, you're definitely getting better especially with Cody. I think you should stop using some of those "tricks" of yours because to me they would only work the first time lol Go for them again and you're basically guaranteed to eat some big damage.... Which a charcter like Gen can't afford :P Also, I'm not sure if it works with every character but I know that jump back fierce does wonders against Rufus' DKs :D
Oh yeah.... Dunedin, where were you guys? :(
Edit: just saw your post GamerzClub, no worries I'll be looking forward to next time :)
All good. 8) Takes ages to set up though, shouldn't be too much of a mish 2nd time around we'll just run the xbox through the tv. Could pm your cell number? Would make it waaaay easier to send invites and tell you wants going on also if on vodaphone I can use my free mintues :)
Hey Raz
We had a blast last night! All of us played for the first half and then Johnno rock the pad with gen guy and Cody.
We were using a xbox se stick with sanwa stick and shitty stick buttons that were stickin so that's why alot of our techs kept missing. Awesome set though. You guys are really good! We got pretty hype on our end cheering and whatnot :D
How did you guys feel about the lag? I think it was upper 2 Bars with 3 Bars from time to time. We didn't have too much of an issue with it.
So I'm thinking of stepping it and getting the ranbats happening every second week. I was thinking of charging 2 bucks on my end since we have no entry fee. We could do it the way we discussed with the winning city taking half the other scenes cash for that night or something.
Maybe starting after christmas or we do one trail ranbat run before christmas and pick it up in the new year.
Hey CptMunta,
Yeah that was really awesome. We really had fun and the connection was pretty solid too. Yeah we using SE stick here too, with only sanwa buttons but shit joystick :P (they refused to use my Seimitsu stick on another SE ...zzz). Hehe anyway, I had to look after the shop at 11 so you guys were playing devilleto and mjt most the time :) I'll tell the others about the ranbats and will get back to u man.
From the chch thread short notice but what do you reckon?:
Small tourney next week? Chch and Dunedin?
Bring 2 bucks I've still got a spare ryu shirt and sf4 poster I could give away. As well as a ps3 non retail copy of modnation racers.
1st place takes all the cash.
We could have Dunedin in the brackets and do it online as well we could video matches and stuff.
3 setups
Xbox for online vs Dunedin and xbox pad vs stick matches.
Ps3 for ps pad vs stick and stick vs stick matches
Ps3 for casuals and whatever
Laptop for emu casuals
I could find some random spot prizes for people who don't make top 3
What do you guys reckon? Good way to celebrate our first year :)
I'm keen for the small tourney :D
But hey sorry I couldn't get to Redtie on time but I'll drop off your PCB on Monday afternoon k
Quote from: Nick4now on December 17, 2010, 09:24:53 AM
I'm keen for the small tourney :D
But hey sorry I couldn't get to Redtie on time but I'll drop off your PCB on Monday afternoon k
No probs man that'll be sweet. Te for tourney