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General Category => Tech/Hardware => Topic started by: Situation on May 02, 2011, 08:28:29 AM

Title: US/NZ MK style SF stick
Post by: Situation on May 02, 2011, 08:28:29 AM
I grew up using what I've been told are US/western style sticks/buttons, with the long stick and convex (I think) buttons, which I've just found out is exactly like the recently released MK TE stick. I have one of those for PS3, but obviously it's not a SF stick, not the right button layout.

I also own a SF TE Fightstick Round 2, for xbox360 which is what I own sf4/ssf4/mvsc3/etc on. Try as I might, I absolutely hate the Japanese style stick/buttons with a passion, I just can't get used to them. I blame this on ~20 years of using a US style stick in south auckland and stages/timeout places.

Would it be better to buy a brand new stick that has the US/western style (if so what are they called), or pay someone to mod my SF TE Fightstick? I know there are guides to do it myself, but I know I would mess it up.
Title: Re: US/NZ MK style SF stick
Post by: HoneyBadger on May 02, 2011, 08:37:38 AM
The stick and buttons are piss easy to mod in your TE dude. The parts in the MK stick are happ parts but are the parts you're used to using the ones you usually see on the fish and chip store kinda cabs? Cause those are MCA parts.
Title: Re: US/NZ MK style SF stick
Post by: [NIUE] BIRRY WONG on May 02, 2011, 08:39:09 AM
Would probably be cheaper to get someone to mod it for you if youre afraid to do it yourself.

Also, im not sure where you would find a pre made stick with US style stick/buttons these days anyway if you wanted to just buy one outright. Most of the console sticks made now generally come with japanese style parts afaik.
Title: Re: US/NZ MK style SF stick
Post by: fluxcore on May 02, 2011, 08:52:21 AM
I have a made-up stick with Happs Super stick and Happ Competition buttons with a 360 pad in it which I'm trying to pass along. It's in vaguely TE stick formation (I'll take a pic tonight).


HoneyBadger: I'm not sure that it's easy to mod a TE with american parts, actually. The stick mounting and dimensions are quite different.
Title: Re: US/NZ MK style SF stick
Post by: Situation on May 02, 2011, 08:54:07 AM
Anyone know someone who is really good at modding these? Happily pay someone to do it.

If the modder doesn't have parts I can order them in, where do I get these MCA parts you mention?

Yeah I played in fish and chip shops, stages, timeout, technodrome, and other places and they all had the style I guess I'm used to / prefer. I can still pull off moves/combos etc, with the Japanese style but I just... really dislike the "feel".

Fluxcore: Hey, I tried pm'ing you on gpforums but noticed you hadn't signed in for awhile so came here :) Looking forward to seeing your pic.
Title: Re: US/NZ MK style SF stick
Post by: Situation on May 02, 2011, 08:59:18 AM
I got the SF TE fighstick awhile ago in a sale at mightyape for $299, I've read about modding but just... don't want to do it myself, as I'm not confident enough I'll do it right, especially with how much the sticks cost.

I won a xmen vs street fighter competition on the north shore about 12 years ago (yay free nintendo 64!), and yet now I consider myself complete and utter shit and I'm blaming the stick/buttons!! Looking forward to finally being able to play ssf4/mvsc3/etc while feeling comfortable.
Title: Re: US/NZ MK style SF stick
Post by: massi4h on May 02, 2011, 12:13:04 PM
I've seen alot of TE's on streams with the old bat style stick in them instead. Alex Valle uses one I think. Shouldn't be too bad of a mod, though I don't know the details.
Title: Re: US/NZ MK style SF stick
Post by: Lennysaurus on May 02, 2011, 12:23:21 PM
Quote from: massi4h on May 02, 2011, 12:13:04 PM
I've seen alot of TE's on streams with the old bat style stick in them instead. Alex Valle uses one I think. Shouldn't be too bad of a mod, though I don't know the details.

Thats just a Sanwa with the ball taken off, and a bat top put on top I think Mason.
Title: Re: US/NZ MK style SF stick
Post by: [NIUE] BIRRY WONG on May 02, 2011, 12:24:17 PM
Yea. Situation is talking about a totally different brand of stick.
Title: Re: US/NZ MK style SF stick
Post by: massi4h on May 02, 2011, 12:26:42 PM
Oh ok then, my bad.
Title: Re: US/NZ MK style SF stick
Post by: Situation on May 02, 2011, 12:38:28 PM
I also want the buttons switched from concave to convex, at least thats what I think the MK buttons are refered to as.
Title: Re: US/NZ MK style SF stick
Post by: electric on May 02, 2011, 12:41:03 PM
Quote from: Situation on May 02, 2011, 12:38:28 PM
I also want the buttons switched from concave to convex, at least thats what I think the MK buttons are refered to as.

American style = concave
Japanese style = convex

Hope you manage to get your stick sorted out - I'm sure there's someone around who will be able to help you
Title: Re: US/NZ MK style SF stick
Post by: [NIUE] BIRRY WONG on May 02, 2011, 12:46:26 PM
Actually, do american buttons (ie. Happ buttons) fit cleanly into the holes on the TE? If they dont that could be a problem.
Title: Re: US/NZ MK style SF stick
Post by: fluxcore on May 02, 2011, 01:04:45 PM
The ones in my stick are convex, but they are american Happs parts. To be entirely frank, convex is just plain better than concave.
They are: http://www.happcontrols.com/pushbuttons/5896xxl.htm

as opposed to the concave version: http://www.happcontrols.com/pushbuttons/5891xxl.htm

HTH.

Title: Re: US/NZ MK style SF stick
Post by: Situation on May 02, 2011, 01:51:12 PM
I'll wait until you post a picture of your stick before deciding, but definitely prefer the concave buttons to the convex ones in the SF TE fighstick.

Are the convex ones in the SF TE fightstick bad convex buttons? As in, are there better convex ones?
Title: Re: US/NZ MK style SF stick
Post by: [NIUE] BIRRY WONG on May 02, 2011, 01:59:22 PM
Generally speaking, Sanwa (the brand in the TE) and Seimitsu are the best brands. Sounds like you prefer the buttons to be firmer, in which case you might prefer the feel of seimitsu.
Title: Re: US/NZ MK style SF stick
Post by: Situation on May 02, 2011, 02:48:51 PM
Touching the buttons on the MK TE and hearing the cliking noise, they just... feel like they should, like they were when I was younger. Touching the SF TE fighstick buttons and hearing almost nothing and feeling... I don't know... flatness, nothingness, I just dislike the buttons. I might like the Seimitsu ones but I don't know if I've ever used anything with them before.
Title: Re: US/NZ MK style SF stick
Post by: HoneyBadger on May 02, 2011, 03:06:10 PM
Probably not, if you come to an NZism event my stick is usually there and it has Seimitsus on it
Title: Re: US/NZ MK style SF stick
Post by: fluxcore on May 02, 2011, 04:47:21 PM
The Happ convex buttons have a click to them, but it isn't like latching a farm gate like the xarcade buttons for instance. They are actually really nice buttons imo, I think you'd be fine with them.
Title: Re: US/NZ MK style SF stick
Post by: B BOY DRAW2 on May 02, 2011, 07:07:36 PM
Best check this bruv!!!

http://www.slagcoin.com/joystick/introduction.html

Stacks of info man...so take your time and keep asking around bro...so many options...

p.s. welcome to the scene bruv!!!  :)
Title: Re: US/NZ MK style SF stick
Post by: Situation on May 09, 2011, 08:17:21 AM
Sent you a PM fluxcore, not 100% if it went through or not so posting here :)
Title: Re: US/NZ MK style SF stick
Post by: fluxcore on May 17, 2011, 12:40:01 PM
OK, finally got all my shit in order and have the pics at the right place at the right time.

(http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/313/img20110513081456.jpg)
(http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/1259/img20110513081522.jpg)

There's a thin lexan sheet on the top, so artwork goes underneath. The sides currently have laminated art on them stuck on with blutack. works surprisingly well, although the corners are coming apart these days.

The start button is an xarcade concave button with the xarcade microswitch too, because it's clunky as hell and makes you less likely to press it by accident _b