Sirlin's post-Evo2k9 thoughts

[fluxcore]

http://www.sirlin.net/blog/2009/7/21/evolution-2009.html

Sirlin discusses a few things about the tournament, and some thoughts on BlazBlue.

No wonder Tager is bottom tier, who ever heard of a grappler/throw char where his special throws can't be used as reversals and can be jumped out of for free?

[Lennysaurus]

http://www.sirlin.net/blog/2009/7/21/evolution-2009.html

Sirlin discusses a few things about the tournament, and some thoughts on BlazBlue.

No wonder Tager is bottom tier, who ever heard of a grappler/throw char where his special throws can't be used as reversals and can be jumped out of for free?

Its not that bad.  THey do Half life, and can magnet suck you from across the screen.

[maelgrim]

Interesting read, though I disagree with his BB thoughts.
Yeah they are easier to tech - which is a good thing IMO.
You can combo them in - which is fun and if you are tager you are doing serious damage.

He think he's low tier thanks to his Nu matchup which is not good at all.
Otherwise he's pretty good especially with that magnetic spark thing.


EDIT - My post EVO thought is that I think Daigo is like the Borg. I think Justin missed his one an only chance to beat him with Rog becasue Daigo has assimilated his game plan

[Gino]

Some interesting insight into the thow mechanics of BB. Guess i won't be playing Tagar untill the next release.

[fluxcore]

There's actually a lot of good discussion in the forums on the site as well. Sirlin basically gets attacked and backs up his argument by saying "0f throws are good because they add to offense AND defense"

Anyone who plays ST knows how great defensive throws are. I actually don't even like SF4's 3 frame throws...

[HoneyBadger]

http://www.sirlin.net/blog/2009/7/21/evolution-2009.html

Sirlin discusses a few things about the tournament, and some thoughts on BlazBlue.

No wonder Tager is bottom tier, who ever heard of a grappler/throw char where his special throws can't be used as reversals and can be jumped out of for free?

Its not that bad.  THey do Half life, and can magnet suck you from across the screen.

Yeah, Tager doesn't even need throws to do damage, if you see how some of the top level Tagers play the matchup isn't as hard as it would sound on paper. (still hard though)

[maelgrim]

Well I watched that Mike Z tager vs Nu final.
Mike Z being one of the best tager players around did well but still lost, showing that the Tager player has to play extremely well to have a chance and hope the Nu player doesn't.

Its a funny matchup though as Tager can win pretty dramtically if he gets in but could also more often get perfected.

[stereomonkey]

There's actually a lot of good discussion in the forums on the site as well. Sirlin basically gets attacked and backs up his argument by saying "0f throws are good because they add to offense AND defense"

Anyone who plays ST knows how great defensive throws are. I actually don't even like SF4's 3 frame throws...

That is the greatness of ST.  You can go on the offense thinking you've lined up your combo setups and then BAM! you get thrown!

This is one reason why Ilove the old SF's.  Alot of mind games with this to

[Barnstorm]

There's actually a lot of good discussion in the forums on the site as well. Sirlin basically gets attacked and backs up his argument by saying "0f throws are good because they add to offense AND defense"

Anyone who plays ST knows how great defensive throws are. I actually don't even like SF4's 3 frame throws...

I dont know if this is applicable but i like there being a throw start up maybe its because sf2 had no whiff for throw

but in one of sirlins other posts he talks about 1button throws and thats how they should be which i think is rubbish that the game decides to throw or not

it should be a free punch to the face if you attempt a throw out of range and not get a normal mp/hp mk/hk

just out of curiosity did other street fighters have start up on throws eg alpha or 3rd strike

[moose!]

3S is 2 frame startup, which is as fast as the fastest normal.
I don't think A3 has startup.

Will read this later today.

[fluxcore]

a3 and 3s aren't street fighter

[stereomonkey]

Throw wiffs slow the game down in my opinion.  What do people normally do when your opponent wiffs their throw?

[[NIUE] BIRRY WONG]

Throw wiffs slow the game down in my opinion.  What do people normally do when your opponent wiffs their throw?

I believe "Rape their face off" is the correct answer here.

My answer is "Attempt to perform the above answer, but cock it up, and have the above happen to me, instead of my opponent"

[HoneyBadger]

RSF RSF RS...... fuck.

[moose!]

a3 and 3s aren't street fighter

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