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Title: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: FearlessNewbie on April 18, 2010, 04:25:38 PM
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all over the BT / PT at the moment, won't take long for ppl upload to MU RS etc





Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: Skullator on April 18, 2010, 04:45:44 PM
Lucky Xbox owners getting in a couple weeks early  :'(
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: Chuckk on April 18, 2010, 05:21:49 PM
only if you have an extra modded xbox really.

either way it means now there will be a lot more information out.
there is already a fuck load of idiot streams up, but some good players are getting their hands on it now, so some good footage should come out real soon.
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: Lennysaurus on April 18, 2010, 06:17:01 PM
hmmm... If only someone had a second modded XBOX360...

if only...

tum tee tum...
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: stereomonkey on April 18, 2010, 06:30:42 PM
the xbox is so mighty :)
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: [NIUE] B1ackstar Ninja on April 18, 2010, 06:36:46 PM
yus !!
I know what i will be playing after work tommorow .......
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: electric on April 18, 2010, 07:04:53 PM
:( I want it noooooooow

Fuck you Sony :(
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: Barnstorm on April 18, 2010, 07:36:48 PM
YIZUR

imagine all those folks that got banned from xbox live what did they do with those consoles
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: [NIUE] B1ackstar Ninja on April 18, 2010, 07:38:02 PM
why you all dont have xboxs i will never know
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: stereomonkey on April 18, 2010, 07:45:52 PM
I wonder that all the time Euan, all the time....
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: electric on April 18, 2010, 08:25:49 PM
Quote from: B1ackstar Ninja on April 18, 2010, 07:38:02 PM
why you all dont have xboxs i will never know

xbox live subscription fees = gay :P
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: Barnstorm on April 18, 2010, 08:38:59 PM
Quote from: electric on April 18, 2010, 08:25:49 PM
xbox live subscription fees = gay :P

console half the price + Playing games early = win in my book
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: Eddy_COMBO on April 18, 2010, 09:14:28 PM
Quote from: electric on April 18, 2010, 08:25:49 PM
xbox live subscription fees = gay :P

I wouldnt mind payin to use xbox live(if i had a 360) but only if i wasnt on kruddy capped broadband >:(
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: stereomonkey on April 18, 2010, 09:41:54 PM
Quote from: electric on April 18, 2010, 08:25:49 PM
xbox live subscription fees = gay :P

A better online service, hackable console, same games as ps3 besides first party, better resolutions (if you like that sort of thing), best multiplayer experience for console games and the list keeps going.

Bad points, Subscription (if you play any monthly subscription game this is far cheaper than those), RROD, Noisy muthafucker (unless you play all your games from your external hard drive! FUCK YES!) and no blueray.
Title: Re: [Apr 18th] SSF4 leaked! Now with some 3MB/sec lucky bustard's screen shots
Post by: fluxcore on April 18, 2010, 10:09:22 PM
At least MS will fix your RROD, sony make you take them through small claims court to fix YLOD.
Title: Re: [Apr 18th] SSF4 leaked! Now with some 3MB/sec lucky bustard's screen shots
Post by: FearlessNewbie on April 18, 2010, 10:10:08 PM
lots screen shots
http://bbs.a9vg.com/read.php?tid=1454289&fpage=1

And apparently some ppl in HK got their hands on the PS3 version as well.
Title: Re: [Apr 18th] SSF4 leaked! Now with some 3MB/sec lucky bustard's screen shots
Post by: stereomonkey on April 18, 2010, 10:30:25 PM
trag13 is already uploading combo vids.  Only starting but probably will get a shit load of them soon haha.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdHAhDj3oX8

again, xbox winna!
Title: Re: [Apr 18th] SSF4 leaked! Now with some 3MB/sec lucky bustard's screen shots
Post by: Barnstorm on April 18, 2010, 10:36:55 PM
just curious but does anyone know if modded consoles work online without being banned?
or are those days over
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: [NIUE] B1ackstar Ninja on April 18, 2010, 10:39:16 PM
Quote from: electric on April 18, 2010, 08:25:49 PM
xbox live subscription fees = gay :P
$80 for a year of the best online experience you can have is pretty good , or if you just wanna pound out ssf4 for a month online its $10 .

also....
lol , dont you like getting games for free and early like alan wake  , red dead redemption , splintercell conviction , final fantasy , ssf4 ...... ?
any that have good online buy and play online , any that are just single player , just aquire for free .....

you can pick up a chipped 360 on trademe for $175 ....
unbeatable value ,  oh and play ssf4 2 weeks early . 8)

Title: Re: [Apr 18th] SSF4 leaked! Now with some 3MB/sec lucky bustard's screen shots
Post by: [NIUE] B1ackstar Ninja on April 18, 2010, 10:41:44 PM
Quote from: Barnstorm on April 18, 2010, 10:36:55 PM
just curious but does anyone know if modded consoles work online without being banned?
or are those days over
yip sure do , stu survived the ban wave and is still going if he had a subscription lol  , me and lenny were too eager and played tekken6 onine without patching it first .... DOH  !!

also ixtreme light touch is out now , undetechtable so far .
Title: Re: [Apr 18th] SSF4 leaked! Now with some 3MB/sec lucky bustard's screen shots
Post by: FearlessNewbie on April 18, 2010, 10:45:47 PM
Quote from: Barnstorm on April 18, 2010, 10:36:55 PM
just curious but does anyone know if modded consoles work online without being banned?
or are those days over

Normally you won't get banned straight away if it's a fresh modded/flashed console, but you shall be banned eventually.
Title: Re: [Apr 18th] SSF4 leaked! Now with some 3MB/sec lucky bustard's screen shots
Post by: Barnstorm on April 18, 2010, 10:48:58 PM
Quote from: B1ackstar Ninja on April 18, 2010, 10:41:44 PM
yip sure do , stu survived the ban wave and is still going if he had a subscription lol  , me and lenny were too eager and played tekken6 onine without patching it first .... DOH  !!

also ixtreme light touch is out now , undetechtable so far .

Bro I was super careful with mine didnt play any of the new games still didnt make it through though

I think it was to do with what firmware you had, the older the better
stu is the first ive heard to survive that shit


Also is that link up top a jtag xbox
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: FearlessNewbie on April 18, 2010, 10:49:17 PM
Quote from: B1ackstar Ninja on April 18, 2010, 10:39:16 PM
$80 for a year of the best online experience you can have is pretty good , or if you just wanna pound out ssf4 for a month online its $10 .


Actually $69.99 all year long from noelleeming and $55 when on special, best and cheapest place to buy from

http://www.noelleeming.co.nz/games-gaming/xbox-360-xb360/xbox-360-accessories-xb360/xbox-360-52m-00009-12-month-gold-subscription-card/prod96274.html
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: [NIUE] B1ackstar Ninja on April 18, 2010, 10:54:48 PM
dang $59.99 is flippn cheap . better pick me up one of those at that time .

your ok to go online with light tough firmware or as long as you havent played any wave 4 games  and you patch all your games with agbx360 .

which one of these did you not do barnstorm ?
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: [NIUE] B1ackstar Ninja on April 18, 2010, 10:57:44 PM
i lasted a year and a half before getting caught and when i did i just got another 360 off trademe for $150 .
for playing free games online for a year and a half I dont mind paying $150 for another console when thats just a bit more than the price of 1 game lol lol lol

so know i have my banned chipped 360 for all my single player games i wanna play , and my legit 360 for playing online which ive brought sf4 and ssf4 for .  ;)
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: samurai black on April 18, 2010, 10:58:58 PM
Quote from: B1ackstar Ninja on April 18, 2010, 10:39:16 PM
$80 for a year of the best online experience you can have is pretty good , or if you just wanna pound out ssf4 for a month online its $10 .

also....
lol , dont you like getting games for free and early like alan wake  , red dead redemption , splintercell conviction , final fantasy , ssf4 ...... ?
any that have good online buy and play online , any that are just single player , just aquire for free .....

you can pick up a chipped 360 on trademe for $175 ....
unbeatable value ,  oh and play ssf4 2 weeks early . 8)

as awesome as that sounds, all that super piracy is gonna come back and bite you in the ass.

with something queer like DRM on 'roids
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: Barnstorm on April 18, 2010, 11:05:36 PM
Quote from: B1ackstar Ninja on April 18, 2010, 10:54:48 PM
dang $59.99 is flippn cheap . better pick me up one of those at that time .

your ok to go online with light tough firmware or as long as you havent played any wave 4 games  and you patch all your games with agbx360 .

which one of these did you not do barnstorm ?

Patched them with agbx360 and closest to wave 4 was borderlands
i got 9 months of good times so i wasnt too fussed
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: [NIUE] B1ackstar Ninja on April 18, 2010, 11:10:38 PM
lol got 2 people on my friends list playing ssf4 online right now .....
whats the bet they are banned by tommorow haha
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: [NIUE] B1ackstar Ninja on April 18, 2010, 11:12:58 PM
man , lotsa people playing on justin.tv and ustream , hakan looks real good as does cody .
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: [NIUE] B1ackstar Ninja on April 18, 2010, 11:14:18 PM
Quote from: samurai black on April 18, 2010, 10:58:58 PM
as awesome as that sounds, all that super piracy is gonna come back and bite you in the ass.

with something queer like DRM on 'roids
pretty much everyone who has a 360 has it chipped .
1.5 million people got thier xboxs banned in the ban wave lol
except for mason cos hes scared haha
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: [NIUE] B1ackstar Ninja on April 18, 2010, 11:18:27 PM
alex valle .... you dirty pirate haha
http://twitter.com/AlexValleSF4/statuses/12324717842
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: [NIUE] B1ackstar Ninja on April 18, 2010, 11:23:16 PM
oh forgot , me ben smoof and leo were watching this before , its still live
http://www.justin.tv/cicadatehl337#r=jCJ1M4Y~

these guys downloaded it , stream live at the moment .
nice that they have the sf theme as the music in menu instead of indestructable .
slick looking menus too ....
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: [NIUE] B1ackstar Ninja on April 18, 2010, 11:29:46 PM
dang fuson makes guile look so beast
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: Skullator on April 18, 2010, 11:50:28 PM
Quote from: fluxcore on April 18, 2010, 10:09:22 PM
At least MS will fix your RROD, sony make you take them through small claims court to fix YLOD.

From what I gather, If you take good care of your PS3 it doesn't YLOD.
I think having the PS3 sit on carpet and gathering dust is a big cause of it.. Just like the first PC I ever bought which sat on the carpet.. first time I ever opened it up I got a big shock how much crap was in there lol.
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: [NIUE] BIRRY WONG on April 19, 2010, 01:53:49 AM
Party at U-man's place. Bring your pirate hats.
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: stereomonkey on April 19, 2010, 06:21:33 AM
I have a older firmware on mine which doesn't allow me to play wave 4 games.  So that is why I'm still sweet.

Thinking of getting me one of those modded xboxes that you can load games from a external hard drive.
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: xpunch on April 19, 2010, 07:32:49 AM
Lookz like its time to oil up.... here i go......

tee hee tum tum lol
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: zos'la on April 19, 2010, 10:57:58 AM
great lol. hope it helps to get it early for thsoe who can.
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: massi4h on April 19, 2010, 12:40:39 PM
This stream just started and has seemingly more variety and higher level of play: http://www.justin.tv/toptiergaming#r=XtoCWrQ~
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: [NIUE] BIRRY WONG on April 19, 2010, 01:30:55 PM
Yea that streams not bad. Although i switched to cicada's after i watched dudley vs makoto, and the dudley player mashed uppercut and won.
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: fluxcore on April 19, 2010, 01:37:52 PM
top tier gaming!
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: [NIUE] BIRRY WONG on April 19, 2010, 01:43:33 PM
I really like the look of Deejay Adon and Cody. This stream makes me want to chip my xbox and download this shit.
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: [NIUE] BIRRY WONG on April 19, 2010, 01:55:04 PM
2 words:

WARIO DUDLEY
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: CptMunta on April 19, 2010, 11:08:16 PM
Quote from: ILL_BILL on April 19, 2010, 01:53:49 AM
Party at U-man's place. Bring your pirate hats.

Impressions from the pirate ship for all us land lubbers please. All sticks on deck!
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: samurai black on April 19, 2010, 11:15:50 PM
hey pirates, can you check if flash explosion can still be parried by gouken? that shit just killed me in vanilla :/
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: Lennysaurus on April 20, 2010, 12:09:40 AM
If I had a copy I might say that Guile seems ALOT better.

I might also think that the game has struck a decent balance between rushdown characters and zoney turtleyness.

I might also think that Dhalsim is now pretty beast, and that the game seems awesomeO!

But I dont have the game... so I dont think the above.
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: [NIUE] B1ackstar Ninja on April 20, 2010, 12:19:28 AM
oh sorry to xpunch and jacksmash and whoever else txted me today , i worked till 7.30pm tonight and ive got no credit on my phone cos im poor as fuck goddam it .
in other news ,  ssf4 is godlike .
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: stereomonkey on April 20, 2010, 06:24:02 AM
Someone has been practicing with ken masters it seems and recording stuff too ;D
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: CoffinDrop1 on April 20, 2010, 07:25:22 AM
Lucky bastards!
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: zos'la on April 20, 2010, 08:04:06 AM
I am sureFing and Jack will have this early as they have a hacked xbox???
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: stereomonkey on April 20, 2010, 08:06:34 AM
I think everybody that got banned last year probably has this already.
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: xpunch on April 20, 2010, 08:34:57 AM
algudz u-man haha, man i think feilong is way better, the game seems like its faster and smooth az, online is good too
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: [NIUE] Optimus DAVE on April 20, 2010, 10:17:29 AM
fuck u niggaz make me wanna cry :'( :'( :'(

can i come to someones house and play ssf4 :'( :'(
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: xpunch on April 20, 2010, 10:18:56 AM
lol gimme ur addy and we will party at urs  ;D you gota 360stick aye?
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: [NIUE] Optimus DAVE on April 20, 2010, 10:23:30 AM
haha ooo yeah, i just gotta get it back from lenny.....

lol i stay out the east yo haha
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: Lennysaurus on April 20, 2010, 10:25:04 AM
Anything you guys want tested?

Been thrashing it with Ben, and we found some neato stuff.  There are many misconceptions floating around.

So far, dudley is nowhere near as godlike as everyone thought he'd be.  He has great combos, but NOTHING else.  he gets zoned out like for free, and his lack of crossup makes him easy prey to wakeup dragons etc.

Guy is really good.  Amazing anti air, Im talking like back+rounchouse sim level shit.  Great damaging hit confirmable combos.  Great pressure, and great corner game.  His EX Hurrican Kick is great for waking up, and rapes crossups on wakeup.

Dave! I get my car tonight so ill ring you!  ShallI bring my console with me? lolol
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: zos'la on April 20, 2010, 10:29:43 AM
bastards :P
hook us up with some games :P Lenny why don't you bring it out to Giga this weekend and people can come along and play???
if thats ok with u haha.
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: xpunch on April 20, 2010, 10:31:08 AM
looks like its time to oil up @ daves house hurry up dave host it for all the bois  ;D oh and shin akuma is a cheap asshole lol...
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: electric on April 20, 2010, 10:36:21 AM
Quote from: The Lenny 2.0 on April 20, 2010, 10:25:04 AM
Anything you guys want tested?

Guy and Abel's U2's - jumpable at point blank after the flash ? pleeeeeease :)
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: [NIUE] BIRRY WONG on April 20, 2010, 10:37:31 AM
Theres been talk that RSF is harder to do. Would you mind giving that a whirl for me?

Someone name a time and a place dammit. Ill be there so fucking quick....
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: [NIUE] Optimus DAVE on April 20, 2010, 10:42:50 AM
haha damn nigga i gotta do some oiling up of the house owner first haha.........unless its just meet ups at giga lol

but damn, hows guile?....better damage output?

and adon?
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: Skullator on April 20, 2010, 10:48:32 AM
Lenny do throws feel as fast as they were in SFIV?
Or do they feel easier to tech at all? I read somewhere on SRK that throws and option select throws had changed.

Also, if you could do a damage count on this chun li combo-
Crouching short, crouching short, EX Legs, Ultra2 Kikousho

Cheers
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: [NIUE] BIRRY WONG on April 20, 2010, 10:52:01 AM
I would just like to point out this post by a Ryu scrub (Ceo NB) on SRK.

QuoteThe weaker dp in this game sucks!. I feel i'm working much to hard to win now. Seems like much of the new characters can link into ultra with no problem. Some not even needing fadc to do it. Even ryu's ex tatsu combo way weaker. I didn't see the point of this. Last I check, rufus and vipers, were going crazy in this game not ryu's. You do need to more offensive cause the dp can't win as cleanly as it used to, but if you your getting rush, you should be able to switch your style and counter it. BUt you can't as easily. I"m not feeling the them toning down the dp. They want it more offensive game put in a guard break meter.

CRY MORE YOU BAD RYU. HAHAHA


Also, loldenjin? Admittedly, this makes SOME sense. But its still kind of stink.

QuoteGouken can combo a j.MP or Super after Denjin. However, Denjin is absolute ass.

800 stun full charge, 400 no charge. 400 full charge on block, 200 no charge on block.

This would be great, but if your opp is 1 point away from stun and you denjin him and he blocks, he DOES NOT get stunned
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: samurai black on April 20, 2010, 11:38:08 AM
fuck, i wanna play toooooooooo
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: [NIUE] Optimus DAVE on April 20, 2010, 11:45:39 AM
fark, i just checkd for any new guile vids n found some pretty interesting things....

http://www.youtube.com/user/trag13#p/c/00499DB8AF742F6B/2/_Mg-4hjIwP4 (http://www.youtube.com/user/trag13#p/c/00499DB8AF742F6B/2/_Mg-4hjIwP4)

so excited to hava jam on this so excited :o :o :o
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: Lennysaurus on April 20, 2010, 11:47:54 AM
Quote from: Skullator on April 20, 2010, 10:48:32 AM
Also, if you could do a damage count on this chun li combo-
Crouching short, crouching short, EX Legs, Ultra2 Kikousho

336 damage for that combo.  on another note, st.roundhouse, EX legs, Ultra 2 is 436 damage, not bad when you consider thae damage nerfs.

TBH Bill I am shit with fuerte now, so best to wait and try yourself.

Guile is MUCH better.  His Ultra 1 does 510 damage now, and can be relatively easily comboed from a short flash kick if you cath your opponent at the arc of his jumps.  All his 1 frame links are MUCH easier now... not hard to do them at all.  His DF+roundhouse is faster now, decent anti air, and puts the opponent in a juggle state which you can tag them with ultra, backfist, super, flash kick, EX flashkick.  Booms have way better charge time.  Other than the ultra damage change hhe is much the same.  oh also Ultra 2 is pretty useful.  Very fast and nice and safe, big chip too.

Electric, both are jumpable after the flash at point blank range.

Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: [NIUE] Optimus DAVE on April 20, 2010, 11:52:47 AM
yeah nigga......combo exhibitions all day on you sf4 tier whores........yeah :P
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: zos'la on April 20, 2010, 12:01:22 PM
Quote from: ILL_BILL on April 20, 2010, 10:52:01 AM
I would just like to point out this post by a Ryu scrub (Ceo NB) on SRK.

CRY MORE YOU BAD RYU. HAHAHA


Also, loldenjin? Admittedly, this makes SOME sense. But its still kind of stink.

u lamers hate shoto so much LOL xD
But I do aggree they fucked up Ryu's AA pretty much as SRk is supposingly one of teh best AA in SF but now its weaker than half teh cast AA. Might as well use C.Hp LOL.
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: fluxcore on April 20, 2010, 12:04:26 PM
DP has been weak anti air in plenty of other SFs as well.

Personally, given the stupid input system of SF4, it's about the only way they can make it not stupid.
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: samurai black on April 20, 2010, 12:08:15 PM
hey, how is cody shaping up? keen to give him a go
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: Lennysaurus on April 20, 2010, 12:08:26 PM
Quote from: zosla on April 20, 2010, 12:01:22 PM
u lamers hate shoto so much LOL xD
But I do aggree they fucked up Ryu's AA pretty much as SRk is supposingly one of teh best AA in SF but now its weaker than half teh cast AA. Might as well use C.Hp LOL.

DP is definitely not weak as anti air.  Its still really good, you just cant mash it during blockstrings and combo to ultra.  You can still dragon through peoples sloppy blockstrings to break presure, but you arent gonna get a free trade ultra, or you arent gonna be able to fadc it into metsu.

So in conclusion great anti air, not as good at releaving pressure up close.
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: Lennysaurus on April 20, 2010, 12:10:19 PM
Cody seems solid.  Good zoning, good pokes, good damagin combos.

jumpin Feirce, standing feirce, roundhouse ruffian kcik, FADC, Ultra 1 is 553 damage iirc.

He has good jumpins, including a good crossup that combos easily.
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: Skullator on April 20, 2010, 12:12:31 PM
Quote from: The Lenny 2.0 on April 20, 2010, 11:47:54 AM
336 damage for that combo.  on another note, st.roundhouse, EX legs, Ultra 2 is 436 damage, not bad when you consider thae damage nerfs.

Thanks for that Lenny, good I was hoping the easy ultra2 combo was low damage.

Can't wait to get my copy!
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: [NIUE] BIRRY WONG on April 20, 2010, 01:46:28 PM
And Cody LOOKS really simple to play aswell, at least at entry level. My gripe (as an observer who hasnt played the game) landing that HK ruffian FADC Ultra reminds me a lot of DP FADC Ultra, except i doubt the HK ruffian is going to beat out peoples blockstrings and do other random retarded shit.

I think i liken it a bit more to sagats j.hk -> c.mk -> DP -> fadc -> F.RH -> Ultra from SF4. Damage is comparable, and the cody combo is even simpler.

There are plenty of characters with stuff like this, although a lot of it looks to have been toned down heavily in SSF4, whereas this cody combo seems pretty low risk/high reward in terms of execution.

But he has a fake rock throw, so hes still cool. But he doesnt look like he has any super cheesy bullshit, which is nice. Solid characters are great. And yes, i look like a tool whilst talking like im an expert about a game i havent even played yet

Quote from: zosla on April 20, 2010, 12:01:22 PM
u lamers hate shoto so much LOL xD
But I do aggree they fucked up Ryu's AA pretty much as SRk is supposingly one of teh best AA in SF but now its weaker than half teh cast AA. Might as well use C.Hp LOL.

.

I dont hate shoto's, i hate SCRUBBY shoto's. Im glad they took out the free ultra off of mashed uppercuts out. It means bad players actually have to use their brains, which in the long run, is going to drastically improve their game.
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: [NIUE] weazzyefff on April 20, 2010, 01:55:19 PM
Bro your still getting Sagats high dmg combo wrong. It's been a while since i played but i'm sure it's j HP > s MP > hp TU > blah blah. Yer i'm sure the j Hp does more than Hk and the s MP does more than c MP . But yeah i might be wrong it's been ages.

KRUNK LIFE!!!!!!
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: xpunch on April 20, 2010, 02:05:18 PM
Quote from: ILL_BILL on April 20, 2010, 01:46:28 PM

I dont hate shoto's, i hate SCRUBBY shoto's. Im glad they took out the free ultra off of mashed uppercuts out. It means bad players actually have to use their brains, which in the long run, is going to drastically improve their game.

lol theres a few ppl playing online and there are alot of scrubby ken, ryu, sagat, srk mashing players. im getting alright connections with americans lol and its cool you earn BP battle points per character (which every1 probly already knew) and i played the highest sagat player he had like 1345BP with sagat and i beat him with the scrubbiest dudley lol and got proof from the replay channel...

anyways i wana share this game with all the boiz that been waiting hardout 4 this game but someone needs to be keen and host it and such and i dnt wana spend money lol ima cheap bastidd  ;D but the offer is here boiz lol
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: Lennysaurus on April 20, 2010, 02:27:01 PM
That Cody combo only works on standing opponents.  A better one to do is:

crossup forward, cr. jab, cr. strong, Roundhouse Ruffian, fadc, Ultra 1.

That way you can confirm if they are standing or not... if they are standing do the roundhouse ruffian, if not do the forward ruffian or tornado punch.
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: Lennysaurus on April 20, 2010, 02:28:06 PM
Quote from: xpunch on April 20, 2010, 02:05:18 PM
lol theres a few ppl playing online and there are alot of scrubby ken, ryu, sagat, srk mashing players. im getting alright connections with americans lol and its cool you earn BP battle points per character (which every1 probly already knew) and i played the highest sagat player he had like 1345BP with sagat and i beat him with the scrubbiest dudley lol and got proof from the replay channel...

anyways i wana share this game with all the boiz that been waiting hardout 4 this game but someone needs to be keen and host it and such and i dnt wana spend money lol ima cheap bastidd  ;D but the offer is here boiz lol

Yeha if someone wants to host I can bring my copy.
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: zos'la on April 20, 2010, 03:39:20 PM
Well how about Saturday Night at Giga? we can all chip in for those who turn up?
1-2 consoles should be sufficient. but depends who will turn up.
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Post by: massi4h on April 20, 2010, 03:44:13 PM
More like 2-5 consoles lol. I'd be keen to have a go.
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: [SAS]akuma1nz on April 20, 2010, 05:37:25 PM
bro lets hve a lil jam at mine
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: Rorooze on April 20, 2010, 11:34:25 PM
I'm keen, can't really do it at mine though, my place is tiny D: . I can bring TV/stick or also keen to go to giga!
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: zos'la on April 21, 2010, 08:45:30 AM
dunno if anyone is willing to bring it in...
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: Lennysaurus on April 21, 2010, 09:13:06 AM
sorry guys i got a prior engagemnt on saturday
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: electric on April 21, 2010, 09:22:51 AM
Ok, so Abels new Ultra is apparently disgusting - here's a list of things it can punish

Quote
Viper: LP & HP thunder knuckle
Dhalsim: HP
Honda: LP & EX headbutt
Ryu: EX tatsu, hadoken close->mid range
Fei Long: HP, c.HP, Rekka
Sagat: HK, K tiger shot close->mid range, P tiger shot close
Ken: HK tatsu (HIT)
Rufus: c.HP (HIT)

Abel for S-Tier!!!
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: [NIUE] BIRRY WONG on April 21, 2010, 10:06:11 AM
Nice. It sounds a lot like the el fuerte ultra roflcopter.
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: electric on April 21, 2010, 10:37:26 AM
Quote from: ILL_BILL on April 21, 2010, 10:06:11 AM
Nice. It sounds a lot like the el fuerte ultra roflcopter.

Woo woo - let the Mexican/French revolution begin!

EX falling sky is apparently one of the best AA's in the game now too. Watch the fuck OUT!
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: [NIUE] weazzyefff on April 21, 2010, 10:41:43 AM
 :'(

Must........play.......
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: Skullator on April 21, 2010, 11:01:47 AM
EX Falling sky be damned. I'm still jumping in on Abel every chance I get because it feels good man.
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: electric on April 21, 2010, 11:12:02 AM
Quote from: Skullator on April 21, 2010, 11:01:47 AM
EX Falling sky be damned. I'm still jumping in on Abel every chance I get because it feels good man.

Hahaha - hopefully now with his improved pokes and new "I'll punish any fucking thing you do" ultra, the Chun match won't be so god damn retarded.
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: zos'la on April 21, 2010, 11:29:41 AM
Quote from: electric on April 21, 2010, 11:12:02 AM
Hahaha - hopefully now with his improved pokes and new "I'll punish any fucking thing you do" ultra, the Chun match won't be so god damn retarded.
was it ever that bad in teh first place??? sometimes its more player dependant than matchup.
I don't see simonfish Abel having a hard tiem against Chun's....
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: [NIUE] BIRRY WONG on April 21, 2010, 11:36:46 AM
Quote from: zosla on April 21, 2010, 11:29:41 AM
was it ever that bad in teh first place??? sometimes its more player dependant than matchup.
I don't see simonfish Abel having a hard tiem against Chun's....

Bro please dont start this shit again.
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: electric on April 21, 2010, 11:44:08 AM
Quote from: zosla on April 21, 2010, 11:29:41 AM
was it ever that bad in teh first place??? sometimes its more player dependant than matchup.
I don't see simonfish Abel having a hard tiem against Chun's....

A good chun can be really hard to get in on - all her pokes beat out Abel's clean or trade in her favour. Abel doesn't really have any options that can cover more than one of chuns, so you're forced to guess a lot of the time, and because chun can dish out a ton of damage, Abels life pool isn't as big a deal as it would be in say... the Rose match up - I think the Chun/Rose vs. Abel match is very similar, but because Rose simply can't dish out as much damage as Chun, it makes it a little easier. Abels best tool at mid range (ex CoD) loses BADLY to neutral jump combos, and since there's fuck all else that Abel has at mid range, Chun only really needs to watch out for that, jump on reaction and punish away.

You're right in the sense that in Chun v Abel, you really have to know the opponent, which makes a big difference... knowing whether they'll back dash, cr.short or EX bird when you're on the offensive certainly helps, but again, it's more of a guess than anything, since there's no real tool of his that covers multiple options.

No offense to any of the Chun warriors here, but I'd say Simon doesn't have much problems with it because Simon is fucking beast - he's a flat out better player than most people in the country. Myself ? I'd say I'm average at best, so when I play someone who's much better than me (Skullator, Pjai, or your Chun for instance) it's much more of an uphill struggle.
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: electric on April 21, 2010, 11:44:34 AM
Quote from: ILL_BILL on April 21, 2010, 11:36:46 AM
Bro please dont start this shit again.

Actually, this x 1000.
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: Lennysaurus on April 21, 2010, 11:52:12 AM
Nah man... it doesnt matter bout matchups... you just gotta practice practice...

Its not the character, its all about the skill.. this is a true fact.  Doesnt mattter who you use.. if you believe in your skills you can become a champion.
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: zos'la on April 21, 2010, 12:01:40 PM
not starting anything so chill.

Electric,
Ur right about one thing is the skill level gap btw players that makes teh difference, i.e ur as an average player against an just above average player. Then of course you wil have a hard time even if ur char matchup is like 6-4 to ur char. Therefore I am stating its more of teh player that is the concern.
You will always be bias with player skills and matchup as players differ all the time with teh char they use, hence why I always put it as player specific rather than matchup specific though I am not saying we can't ignore matchup totally as it also plays a good percentage game along with everything else.

love Lenny's sarcasm. :)
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: Skullator on April 21, 2010, 12:05:44 PM
I don't think Lenny was being sarcastic there lol
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: fluxcore on April 21, 2010, 12:07:59 PM
hahaha
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: zos'la on April 21, 2010, 12:08:44 PM
Quote from: Skullator on April 21, 2010, 12:05:44 PM
I don't think Lenny was being sarcastic there lol

tell me u are LENNY!!!!
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: Chuckk on April 21, 2010, 12:10:12 PM
Quote from: fluxcore on April 21, 2010, 12:07:59 PM
hahaha
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: B BOY DRAW2 on April 21, 2010, 12:59:56 PM
Quote from: The Lenny 2.0 on April 21, 2010, 11:52:12 AM
Nah man... it doesnt matter bout matchups... you just gotta practice practice...

Its not the character, its all about the skill.. this is a true fact.  Doesnt mattter who you use.. if you believe in your skills you can become a champion.

AMEN.

This shit is a mind game as much as a who can do quarter circles faster game...Sure sum characters may require more effort...but if you let it show and you're not downloading your opponent in real time...you're toast!

Practice practice...
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: Lennysaurus on April 21, 2010, 01:21:11 PM
This is true.  When I play online at vanilla I see lots of sagats all the time. But because I  practice and know how the sagats play I can beat them all the time.

Pople have to remember that when you play you are playing against a person and that if you are stronger in the game than the other player you can beat them 100% true.

Look at Iyo in japan using dhalsim he was able tto become champion and dhalsim is supposed to be low tier.  This is because tiers and matchups are just things made up by bad players that need tto learn the game more.
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: zos'la on April 21, 2010, 02:28:36 PM
Quote from: The Lenny 2.0 on April 21, 2010, 01:21:11 PM
This is true.  When I play online at vanilla I see lots of sagats all the time. But because I  practice and know how the sagats play I can beat them all the time.

Pople have to remember that when you play you are playing against a person and that if you are stronger in the game than the other player you can beat them 100% true.

Look at Iyo in japan using dhalsim he was able tto become champion and dhalsim is supposed to be low tier.  This is because tiers and matchups are just things made up by bad players that need tto learn the game more.

hahah this is good!!!! I actually didn't think this would come out from you Lenny!!!
I wouldn't agree more and you know what? since this comes out from you and not me, people will actually try to understand rather than Flaming each other :)

looking forward to the game for sure.
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: [NIUE] BIRRY WONG on April 21, 2010, 02:36:07 PM
R O F L
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: Rorooze on April 21, 2010, 03:06:24 PM
the lolcopter has landed
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: Barnstorm on April 21, 2010, 05:03:52 PM
Quote from: The Lenny 2.0 on April 21, 2010, 01:21:11 PM
This is true.  When I play online at vanilla I see lots of sagats all the time. But because I  practice and know how the sagats play I can beat them all the time.

Pople have to remember that when you play you are playing against a person and that if you are stronger in the game than the other player you can beat them 100% true.

Look at Iyo in japan using dhalsim he was able tto become champion and dhalsim is supposed to be low tier.  This is because tiers and matchups are just things made up by bad players that need tto learn the game more.

the line between sarcasm and real talk has been massively blurred
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: [8-----D] Toots on April 21, 2010, 07:07:04 PM
Hahahah Cunts
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: stereomonkey on April 21, 2010, 07:11:28 PM
I had a good laugh at work.  So good :P
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: HoneyBadger on April 22, 2010, 02:22:48 PM
Bro I played this mad dude today, said his name was Kevin Puyat.
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: zos'la on April 22, 2010, 02:44:04 PM
anyone going to be at yifans later today?
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: [NIUE] BIRRY WONG on April 25, 2010, 06:26:50 PM
Shot for the games Len. Hakan SO BEAST. I need to get better at that deejay link. Or at least start using like, c.lp, c.lp MGU instead. Fuck I'm loving this game so much.
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: Hydro on April 25, 2010, 07:13:51 PM
Quote from: ILL_BILL on April 25, 2010, 06:26:50 PM
Hakan SO BEAST.

True that. Kinda keen to see what Hakan can do with the whole "cancel a dash with any normal or special while oiled" ability. It's quite the talking point in the SRK Hakan Lab, they're nicknamed "Crisco combos".
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: [NIUE] BIRRY WONG on April 25, 2010, 07:59:52 PM
It's a lot like fuertes run stop and f.ml pressure. Essentially it means endless blockstrings. It's awesome. Makes me want to use that shit. There's actually too much awesome new shit in this game.
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: Lennysaurus on April 25, 2010, 08:19:17 PM
Another way to compare it is similar to how running ryu worked in CVS2.  Basically you just use his moves that have good frame advantage, then do a level 1 focus attack, after it hits (hit or blocked) you dashcancel it and then before the dsh finishes go into another normal and continue your blocked string.. looks really cool.

I must admit I am very conflicted as to who I want to main ow.  Sim, Guy, and Hakan are all really great characters, and I really like them all.  ALso I was mucking around with Gen tonight, and I have been wrong for rubbishing him... he is pretty beast now.  I figured out this link tonight.

Crossup j.forward, cr. short, cr.jab, st.strong, st.forward xx Hands
and also:

Crossup j.forward, st.strong, st.strong, st.forward xx Hands

gah... decisions decisions...
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: [NIUE] BIRRY WONG on April 25, 2010, 09:06:49 PM
Im real keen to get some Guy and Hakan happening myself. Fucking hell. 5 more days.
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: [NIUE] B1ackstar Ninja on April 25, 2010, 09:08:38 PM
nice len !

still gunna main my man ken , hes deffinately better now tho hasnt had as much changed as i thought but figured out his st.hk which does 200 stun and 130 damage is almost twice as fast when i compare it to vanilla sf4 (got sf4 and ssf4 running on each xbox to compare ) .
so a new poke for me to pokey poke with .

loving adon , hes fast and just fucking full rushdown of doom and a godly st.hk .

also playing cody  , abel (his faster pokes , awesome falling sky antiair and godly new ultra make him so much better , guile , guy , and a bit of ibuki .
she will take alot of time to get up to scratch , not sure if i can put the time into her yet .
lotsa fun , such a good game .
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: [NIUE] B1ackstar Ninja on April 25, 2010, 09:10:55 PM
just changed to jap voices and i think the english ones this time round p0wn the jap ones , the english ones sound alot better .
except for jap adon ...... JUGGER TOOTH hahahha so fresh i love it  ;D
Title: Re: Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early
Post by: zos'la on April 26, 2010, 08:59:33 AM
lets see how things goes in the next 3-6 months with how you guys think of the game :)