How do you guys feel about NZism as a site with its own identity?
I know Lenny said at the tournament that I should find a better URL so people can actually find the site, not entirely sure if that was in jest or serious, but this is something I need to think about if I want to reach the largest audience possible.
Originally when I started the site my main objectives were:
1) Find other people to play against and help them in turn find other people to play against
2) Set up tournaments
3) Learn about arcade locations and what games they have
4) Have one place where you can find out about various fighting game releases specific to the NZ region
None of these objectives could sufficiently be accomplished by a couple of forum threads, as I saw it. Simply not flexible enough. So I made this site. The disadvantage of course is that people have to be able to find it, and be bothered to regularly visit etc.
What brings on this line of questioning is that I have been directly approached by a GPforum member asking if I've thought about combining the community into the GPforum community somehow, since this is basically just a forum.
Obviously the greatest advantage that would have is that a lot of casual players would have our forum basically in their face, where they can easily drop in and ask questions or whatever with the minimum of hassle. Arguably the gpforum is the largest gathering place for gamers in NZ, and therefore the market would be possibly the largest possible. Presumably there would be some infrastructure support as well, although no discussion of such things has taken place.
The main disadvantages I can see straight off is that we may lose our NZism identity (not necessarily completely, but site-wise). In the grand scheme of things I guess that's not very important, but it's kind of nice imo.
Also I obviously have a way I like to do things, site organisation and content and whatnot - I'm about as free as you could hope a forum admin to be, and I'm sure gpforums would have considerably stronger rules than I do.
I haven't replied yet because I'm interested in seeing what you guys think - it's your community as much as it is mine. Perhaps the advantages would far outweigh the negatives, but I just can't see all the issues because I'm too close to NZism.
So yeah, spew forth opinions and discussion please!
I like swearing when I write on forums. As long as I can say motherfucker and cock I dont mind.
I think your much better off keeping the site seperate and then things can be run how you want ,you seem to have done a pretty good job so far with few of the other boys organising stuff : ;)
Some of the mods over at gp are fukn clowns .
It easy enough to just post up at gp when a tourneys on or to just link back here.
What will GP do for us? I mean right now it sounds like "HEY GUISE LETS GET MOAR TRAFIKZ OFF THE BACK OF SOME OTHER D00DZ WORK" I think establishing an identity for ourselves is really important if we want to work towards annual tournies and events.
Quote from: Smoofikith on March 24, 2009, 04:42:47 PM
What will GP do for us? I mean right now it sounds like "HEY GUISE LETS GET MOAR TRAFIKZ OFF THE BACK OF SOME OTHER D00DZ WORK" I think establishing an identity for ourselves is really important if we want to work towards annual tournies and events.
Not exactly sure, as I said I haven't replied or asked any questions yet, really just feeling out how you guys thought. Specifically mentioned was HD video capturing setup, although I have little doubt that Lenny will have all that sorted anyway...
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that when I started I based the site off Ozhadou, because they seemed to be doing effectively what I wanted - creating a community for the players. Perhaps that says it all really, and is enough to show that I want a standalone site. The problem is always making people aware of it - although I guess that will come in time as more events are held.
Quote from: Smoofikith on March 24, 2009, 04:42:47 PM
What will GP do for us? I mean right now it sounds like "HEY GUISE LETS GET MOAR TRAFIKZ OFF THE BACK OF SOME OTHER D00DZ WORK" I think establishing an identity for ourselves is really important if we want to work towards annual tournies and events.
Totally agree
I quite like the NZism identity and we do feel like a 'community' not just a sub-forum of a greater parent forum/site.
I use GPForums but for some reason I would prefer this site stayed seperate.
Really, we're still babies atm. I'm sure a lot of you have watched forums like Tekken Zaibatsu, SRK ect rise from little forums to something huge. I mean look at what that tourney did for our numbers, now I'm seeing someone signing up almost everyday. With the success of our recent tourney, I'm not suprised GP wants a part of it
I should probably also mention that the guy that contacted me isn't really a member of the GP staff, so he doesn't have any motive to 'get more hits' for their site, as far as I know. I think it was a genuinely sincere and independent suggestion.
No way! That would suck big Rufus balls maaaan! NZism is NZism. Want more people then advertise like a whore. Even more then what we currently already do.
I'm proud to represent NZism on xboxlive, with all my in your face advertising. I couldn't count how many times I've sent messages to kiwi fighters online boasting about the site (even though I live in Oz ;D). This is only the start. I'm sure if it were to be a sub discussion on gpfourum, this would not be cool, lose its image and its value and then suck. The site may get more casuals onboard though that will not mean they will stay.
Oh well, just what I think anyway... ;)
Thanks stu, that means a lot ^_^
TROPICAL PUNCH!
NZISM 4 LIFE
*bling bling*
No problem bro. I remember back 4 years ago when I was playing old mvc2 in the arcade and not getting anywhere. Then playing you guys and finding out about the old hac site and joining just so I could get some games on mvc2 and other fighting games. During those days I always wished there had been a site like this for NZ. And now that it is NZism.
A site like this has always been needed for a long time.
TROPICAL PUNCH! for the win, lolz :P
EDIT: Woah, looks like i'm a full member now, yay for meeeeeeee!
Just keep it this way....Is getting more and more people now ::) ::) ::)
keep up da good work....keep it real...
Quote from: gunsmoke on March 25, 2009, 12:19:03 AM
Just keep it this way....Is getting more and more people now ::) ::) ::)
keep up da good work....keep it real...
Yea. We've almost cracked 100 members :), thats pretty dope
Maybe we need to have a nzism birthday party or a 100 members party?
Yeah! With all the fighters possible! Lets go to Simon's house, he can buy us the drinks
Haha yeah well the sites like what, 2 years old?
Apparently I joined on January 10, 2007, so yeah missed the 2nd bday already...
Quote from: iRONsoL on March 25, 2009, 09:22:32 AM
Haha yeah well the sites like what, 2 years old?
Accept my friends request on xbox live motherfucker!
Quote from: fluxcore on March 25, 2009, 09:42:57 AM
Apparently I joined on January 10, 2007, so yeah missed the 2nd bday already...
I believe u posted the most ..and the second place goes to me posted .I wonder if we can change to super hero after reach 1200posted.
We should find a good MC for the tournament like me (*___*) lame....
Example that day .....Next opponent call manboobs....no one yell .....da name...instead of waiting....which i did lol....everyone LOOKING at me...oh well where is every1 Spirit...keep it life ..RAAAAAAAAAAAW ;D ;D ;D :P
Is boring no offence .........other than that everything run sooooo well i proud of NZ....
Lenny time to Quik WOW lol..just kidding good 2 c u back (da BIG GUIY ) 8)
Haha manboobs was the man. Im gonna have to officially change my tag to BIRRY WONG just for teh epic chantz.
Quote from: Smoofikith on March 24, 2009, 04:59:48 PM
Really, we're still babies atm. I'm sure a lot of you have watched forums like Tekken Zaibatsu, SRK ect rise from little forums to something huge. I mean look at what that tourney did for our numbers, now I'm seeing someone signing up almost everyday. With the success of our recent tourney, I'm not suprised GP wants a part of it
Yeah I've been with SRK since 2004.
I like this site, and I don't really like sites with high traffic. SRK has been horrible for the past two months bar visiting smaller sites like these.
Quote from: Lennysaurus on March 25, 2009, 09:59:24 AM
Quote from: iRONsoL on March 25, 2009, 09:22:32 AM
Haha yeah well the sites like what, 2 years old?
Accept my friends request on xbox live motherfucker!
Lol I will, but i dont have a gold membership! or SF4 :'(. But will be getting online later this year (hopefully)
I like the site as is. My only gripe is that we cant just host our videos here, but we've got youtube for that anyway.
Quote from: Elixir on March 25, 2009, 12:08:54 PM
Yeah I've been with SRK since 2004.
This made me curious about when I first signed up to shoryuken.com, 04-14-2001 where does the time go :o
I remember I signed up to get MvC2 tips and to find videos, pre youtube etc it was a lot harder to find vids and really painful to download them on dialup >:(
The Stereomonky has it right. I remember looking for a nz site for fighting games, specifically for mvc2, just to find new people to play......
then this came up, i think i found it looking on srk...way way WAY back when
and now look at it......first tournament under its belt. Many more to come, I reckon just give it time.
NZISM IS NZISM
Also, just a side note. I like the little random text on the top right corner of the site. That is o for awesome :D
Quote from: stereomonkey on March 25, 2009, 04:33:33 PM
Also, just a side note. I like the little random text on the top right corner of the site. That is o for awesome :D
Yeah just need to come up with some things to write up there :)
Quote from: fluxcore on March 25, 2009, 04:35:14 PM
Quote from: stereomonkey on March 25, 2009, 04:33:33 PM
Also, just a side note. I like the little random text on the top right corner of the site. That is o for awesome :D
Yeah just need to come up with some things to write up there :)
:D
Haha, SHORYUKEN! :D
Could put up some of the funnier win quotes from all the different fighting games.
......GIGATON PUNCH :o :o :o ::) :P
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Here is some more discussion from the fellow who initiated the dialogue:
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The general guidelines are no piracy/porn or out and out abuse, other than that, you and whoever else you request would moderate that forum.
The Counterstrike sub forum is a good example of how a specific community can thrive as a part of a greater whole.
Some things to think about,
How many people did you attract from posting in general gaming?
How many more attendes would you gain if GP actively backed you and had news posts and features on the main page?
How much better would your video content be if it was captured and shot in HD?
How much easier would it be to approach sponsors backed by or through GP?
Gaming in NZ is full of fairly fractured communities, to me at least, it seems self defeating when so much more could be done.
To be honest, I see jumping on GP as a way to grow the fighting game community in NZ.
I don't plan on going out of my way to push you or convince you to take advantage of an opportunity, but really, what do you have to lose other than the colour scheme of your forum?
I can certainly see the benefit in GP's name when going for sponsorships, front page news etc...
Further thoughts? I'm seriously pretty much in the middle.
I guess the main reason we're here is to expand our competitive community. You said you were talking to a normal member, if we could hear from an admin or something in GP we could start figuring out exactly what it is they could do for us. Honestly I think it's a good idea if we can get more funding and we're allowed to set the rules and restrictions.
I suppose it's not necessarily the case we'd have to go with GP either... I don't think the NZGamer community is anywhere near as big, but they claim to have links to stuff.co.nz, c4, armageddon etc...
Hey guys, I'm an admin at GP Forums and the editor of www.gameplanet.co.nz.
I'm not here to convince you to join GP, but if you can see the benefit in doing so I'm more than happy to answer any questions you may have.
Now it's easier to see what NZism will benefit from gpfourms (or any other site)
I'm now somewhere in the middle as well, as I love the idea of NZism getting more recognition from people, along with the chances of getting wide spread advertisement and maybe even being able to piggy back off sponsors connected with gameplanet to help future tournaments/casuals events.
Hey Jon, would I be a giant dick if I asked, "Why not support this site?"
It would be cool if we could get a link on the forum page that linked to here.
Also....
Nzgamer (http://forums.nzgamer.com/index.php?s=e445a1a87321fe151bbfbf9b6f934a23&showforum=209)
So maybe we should jump on with gp forums.
Keep NZism..it does have a good name
maybe i should photoshop and design more of different types of logo~~
NZISM - with the gauge Look alike to street fighter alpha 3
theres heaps of members and you don't wanna take it away.~~
im gonna play with more logos bro,. =)
Quote from: stereomonkey on March 27, 2009, 03:52:20 PM
Hey Jon, would I be a giant dick if I asked, "Why not support this site?"
Not at all, it's a pertinent question.
There are reasons why any support has to be non-profit in nature - I'm happy to go into that if you need clarification.
As for support - we're happy to look at running gaming evenings for the fighting community, and even run these in conjunction with NZism. We don't have a problem with posts from NZism members on our forums advertising gatherings, ladders, that sort of thing. You guys are a specialised forum and we don't see you as competition.
Perhaps you could define the type of support that you require, and we can discuss how we can work together to achieve something mutually beneficial to both our communities?
All of that sounds great. What I meant by support was just giving shout outs to this site. Thats all.
And again, I'm still in the middle.
What about the rest of you NZism fellas aye?
That sounds great to me Jon.
While I appreciate and see the benefits of folding us into the GP site, I think that there will always be a place for NZism. Our dedication to fighting games is oretty fanatical.
Any chance we can have a fighting games sub-forum in the GPforums? Just as something to say, whet the appetite for the casual gamer looking to dabble in fighting games?
In that case we could look at them signing up to NZISM as the final step into the brink that is competitive fighting games.
Just my thoughts.
Wow lenny,
Somehow your able to take what I'm thinking and put it into words and post it. You ownz brothaa
Quote from: Lennysaurus on March 27, 2009, 08:07:35 PM
Any chance we can have a fighting games sub-forum in the GPforums? Just as something to say, whet the appetite for the casual gamer looking to dabble in fighting games?
Sure thing. Drop me a line at editor@gameplanet.co.nz - let me know who you want as moderators, and their GP Forums profiles, and I'll set this up for you.
I don't want anyone to draw comparisons with NZGamer.com's SFIV forum however. Just because we do this doesn't mean we want to prohibit any future expansion. Let's keep this process dynamic and see if we can't all work together :)
:o
MALO JON VALJEAN ;D ;D
Lennys got what i was thinking in my brain at the same time as the monkey....churrrrrrrrr
nzism is good for me cause ppl here talk about stuff i understand. i only knw 1 fighting gamer on a personal level. maybe this will change that
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