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Title: Street Fighter IV current character ranking
Post by: fluxcore on March 25, 2009, 11:02:02 AM
Taken from http://www.capcom-unity.com/s-kill/blog/2009/03/24/street_fighter_iv_unofficial_rankings_chart

(http://fast1.onesite.com/capcom-unity.com/user/s-kill/sf4rankings.jpg?v=175200)

Interesting? Hell yes...

Very obvious things:
Rose ranked BOTTOM. WORST character.
Seth NOT as good as Sagat.
Gouken right in the middle.
Even the very worst matchups are 7-3, which is not a complete blowout.

Now obviously people can disagree with this all they like, and things may well change, but this is how the Japanese think things stand atm.
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV current character ranking
Post by: Gino on March 25, 2009, 11:04:25 AM
Blanka = Win
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV current character ranking
Post by: fluxcore on March 25, 2009, 11:10:14 AM
Yeah shit, I didn't even notice how high up he was! Christ!

But yeah, it's completely possible to win any match with whichever char you choose, so there's really no need to worry about counterpicking in this game.
(or banning chars, unless Seth really is found to be broken, which I doubt - just really annoying)
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV current character ranking
Post by: [NIUE] BIRRY WONG on March 25, 2009, 11:15:24 AM
I agree with most of it. Chun being above gief is a bit weird, but to be honest, my only experiences with chun li are based on richards. Cammy should be higher too imo.

Fuerte is right where i want him to be. Impossibly hard to play with his only dominant matches being 2 6-4's. He will be my SF4 anakaris. :D
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV current character ranking
Post by: [NIUE]iRONSoL on March 25, 2009, 12:12:53 PM
omg ban sagat :D
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV current character ranking
Post by: Elixir on March 25, 2009, 12:13:39 PM
looooool

okay, okay, holy shit. Cammy higher than Abel. Blanka third? Fuerte second to last? Rufus above Ken? Rufus above Viper? Viper above oh fuck this, this list fails so hard, sorry.
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV current character ranking
Post by: [NIUE] BIRRY WONG on March 25, 2009, 12:21:28 PM
Quote from: Elixir on March 25, 2009, 12:13:39 PM
looooool

okay, okay, holy shit. Cammy higher than Abel. Blanka third? Fuerte second to last? Rufus above Ken? Rufus above Viper? Viper above oh fuck this, this list fails so hard, sorry.

Cammy is a rushdown MACHINE. Blanka is amazingly strong. (Better than seth IMO) Rufus is pretty good. I do agree with your point that viper should be above rufus though. Also keep in mind that Japanese players play in a totally different style to the rest of us.
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV current character ranking
Post by: fluxcore on March 25, 2009, 12:35:35 PM
I don't think Viper should be above - this is a ranking based on good/bad matchups - and I really don't think Viper has many 'good' matchups. I think she's pretty much in the right place, maybe a little higher... Rufus has more 'good' matchups imo.

You have to remember that the difference between the top and bottom in this game isn't that vast - unlike almost every other ranking of this type you see for other games.
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV current character ranking
Post by: CptMunta on March 25, 2009, 12:51:14 PM
Rose ranking =  :'(

No wonder Blanka is giving so many issues with everyone.
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV current character ranking
Post by: [NIUE] Optimus DAVE on March 25, 2009, 01:00:13 PM
TIGER SHOT
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV current character ranking
Post by: Lennysaurus on March 25, 2009, 01:46:15 PM
I think if anything this shows us that it doesnt matter who you pick.  Just need to learn the tough matchups for them.

Game is pretty balanced.

I dont agree with Gens placing.  I think he should be slightly higher.  At least above or on par with Ken imo.
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV current character ranking
Post by: fluxcore on March 25, 2009, 01:50:05 PM
Above dan at least yeah? :D
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV current character ranking
Post by: Lennysaurus on March 25, 2009, 02:08:25 PM
Quote from: fluxcore on March 25, 2009, 01:50:05 PM
Above dan at least yeah? :D

Dan has good pokes and his lk gale kick puts him at frame advantage on block.  I would place dan above ken.
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV current character ranking
Post by: HoneyBadger on March 25, 2009, 02:10:11 PM
I doubt there'd be many "Gen Masters" so I think that greatly contributes to his placing
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV current character ranking
Post by: fluxcore on March 25, 2009, 02:14:44 PM
There's a thread over on SRK and they basically think most of this list is trash, especially because it's early in the game and can't possibly be valid.

I don't think it's outlandishly wrong though... except Sakura v Blanka 5-5 which is just absolute bullshit...

So much of the middle is basically even that it doesn't make much difference.
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV current character ranking
Post by: [NIUE] BIRRY WONG on March 25, 2009, 03:11:07 PM
Quote from: fluxcore on March 25, 2009, 02:14:44 PM
There's a thread over on SRK and they basically think most of this list is trash, especially because it's early in the game and can't possibly be valid.

I don't think it's outlandishly wrong though... except Sakura v Blanka 5-5 which is just absolute bullshit...

So much of the middle is basically even that it doesn't make much difference.

I think the fact that it is relatively even is probably why there is so much conflict. A good thing IMO.
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV current character ranking
Post by: Orochi on March 25, 2009, 04:14:00 PM
I'm happy with the Dan placement! although he should be top! OYAJIII!!!
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV current character ranking
Post by: Gino on March 25, 2009, 05:19:18 PM
Quote from: fluxcore on March 25, 2009, 02:14:44 PM
I don't think it's outlandishly wrong though... except Sakura v Blanka 5-5 which is just absolute bullshit...

Clearly it was 0-10
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV current character ranking
Post by: stereomonkey on March 25, 2009, 06:17:09 PM
Most of my favorite characters are the bottom half, starting from Gouken down.

Low tier for the win!  ;D
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV current character ranking
Post by: ominous on March 25, 2009, 09:01:54 PM
Sagat is so OPd in this game its ridiculous, turtle turtle / massive range / insane damage tiger moves..
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV current character ranking
Post by: [NIUE] Optimus DAVE on March 25, 2009, 09:32:53 PM
because hes the KING OF MUAY THAI ::)
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV current character ranking
Post by: [8-----D] Toots on March 25, 2009, 09:52:41 PM
Quote from: ominous on March 25, 2009, 09:01:54 PM
Sagat is so OPd in this game its ridiculous, turtle turtle / massive range / insane damage tiger moves..

3s Chun is overpowered.
O.Sagat is overpowered.
Cvs2 Sagat is overpowered.
SFIV Sagat is not overpowered.
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV current character ranking
Post by: gunsmoke on March 25, 2009, 09:58:06 PM
ONG BAK 2 tiger knee
Title: Re: Street Fighter IV current character ranking
Post by: fluxcore on March 26, 2009, 07:39:07 AM
I guess I agree that Sagat is 'overpowered' in that I think his damage should be reduced, but he's definitely not a massive amount better than everyone else - certainly beatable.

I groan a bit when I see him picked though, I must admit.