Well... SSF4 leaked out pretty early

[[NIUE] Optimus DAVE]

haha damn nigga i gotta do some oiling up of the house owner first haha.........unless its just meet ups at giga lol

but damn, hows guile?....better damage output?

and adon?

[Skullator]

Lenny do throws feel as fast as they were in SFIV?
Or do they feel easier to tech at all? I read somewhere on SRK that throws and option select throws had changed.

Also, if you could do a damage count on this chun li combo-
Crouching short, crouching short, EX Legs, Ultra2 Kikousho

Cheers

[[NIUE] BIRRY WONG]

I would just like to point out this post by a Ryu scrub (Ceo NB) on SRK.

The weaker dp in this game sucks!. I feel i'm working much to hard to win now. Seems like much of the new characters can link into ultra with no problem. Some not even needing fadc to do it. Even ryu's ex tatsu combo way weaker. I didn't see the point of this. Last I check, rufus and vipers, were going crazy in this game not ryu's. You do need to more offensive cause the dp can't win as cleanly as it used to, but if you your getting rush, you should be able to switch your style and counter it. BUt you can't as easily. I"m not feeling the them toning down the dp. They want it more offensive game put in a guard break meter.

CRY MORE YOU BAD RYU. HAHAHA


Also, loldenjin? Admittedly, this makes SOME sense. But its still kind of stink.

Gouken can combo a j.MP or Super after Denjin. However, Denjin is absolute ass.

800 stun full charge, 400 no charge. 400 full charge on block, 200 no charge on block.

This would be great, but if your opp is 1 point away from stun and you denjin him and he blocks, he DOES NOT get stunned

[samurai black]

fuck, i wanna play toooooooooo

[[NIUE] Optimus DAVE]

fark, i just checkd for any new guile vids n found some pretty interesting things....

http://www.youtube.com/user/trag13#p/c/00499DB8AF742F6B/2/_Mg-4hjIwP4

so excited to hava jam on this so excited

[Lennysaurus]

Also, if you could do a damage count on this chun li combo-
Crouching short, crouching short, EX Legs, Ultra2 Kikousho

336 damage for that combo.  on another note, st.roundhouse, EX legs, Ultra 2 is 436 damage, not bad when you consider thae damage nerfs.

TBH Bill I am shit with fuerte now, so best to wait and try yourself.

Guile is MUCH better.  His Ultra 1 does 510 damage now, and can be relatively easily comboed from a short flash kick if you cath your opponent at the arc of his jumps.  All his 1 frame links are MUCH easier now... not hard to do them at all.  His DF+roundhouse is faster now, decent anti air, and puts the opponent in a juggle state which you can tag them with ultra, backfist, super, flash kick, EX flashkick.  Booms have way better charge time.  Other than the ultra damage change hhe is much the same.  oh also Ultra 2 is pretty useful.  Very fast and nice and safe, big chip too.

Electric, both are jumpable after the flash at point blank range.

[[NIUE] Optimus DAVE]

yeah nigga......combo exhibitions all day on you sf4 tier whores........yeah

[zos'la]

I would just like to point out this post by a Ryu scrub (Ceo NB) on SRK.

CRY MORE YOU BAD RYU. HAHAHA


Also, loldenjin? Admittedly, this makes SOME sense. But its still kind of stink.

u lamers hate shoto so much LOL xD
But I do aggree they fucked up Ryu's AA pretty much as SRk is supposingly one of teh best AA in SF but now its weaker than half teh cast AA. Might as well use C.Hp LOL.

[fluxcore]

DP has been weak anti air in plenty of other SFs as well.

Personally, given the stupid input system of SF4, it's about the only way they can make it not stupid.

[samurai black]

hey, how is cody shaping up? keen to give him a go

[Lennysaurus]

u lamers hate shoto so much LOL xD
But I do aggree they fucked up Ryu's AA pretty much as SRk is supposingly one of teh best AA in SF but now its weaker than half teh cast AA. Might as well use C.Hp LOL.

DP is definitely not weak as anti air.  Its still really good, you just cant mash it during blockstrings and combo to ultra.  You can still dragon through peoples sloppy blockstrings to break presure, but you arent gonna get a free trade ultra, or you arent gonna be able to fadc it into metsu.

So in conclusion great anti air, not as good at releaving pressure up close.

[Lennysaurus]

Cody seems solid.  Good zoning, good pokes, good damagin combos.

jumpin Feirce, standing feirce, roundhouse ruffian kcik, FADC, Ultra 1 is 553 damage iirc.

He has good jumpins, including a good crossup that combos easily.

[Skullator]

336 damage for that combo.  on another note, st.roundhouse, EX legs, Ultra 2 is 436 damage, not bad when you consider thae damage nerfs.

Thanks for that Lenny, good I was hoping the easy ultra2 combo was low damage.

Can't wait to get my copy!

[[NIUE] BIRRY WONG]

And Cody LOOKS really simple to play aswell, at least at entry level. My gripe (as an observer who hasnt played the game) landing that HK ruffian FADC Ultra reminds me a lot of DP FADC Ultra, except i doubt the HK ruffian is going to beat out peoples blockstrings and do other random retarded shit.

I think i liken it a bit more to sagats j.hk -> c.mk -> DP -> fadc -> F.RH -> Ultra from SF4. Damage is comparable, and the cody combo is even simpler.

There are plenty of characters with stuff like this, although a lot of it looks to have been toned down heavily in SSF4, whereas this cody combo seems pretty low risk/high reward in terms of execution.

But he has a fake rock throw, so hes still cool. But he doesnt look like he has any super cheesy bullshit, which is nice. Solid characters are great. And yes, i look like a tool whilst talking like im an expert about a game i havent even played yet

u lamers hate shoto so much LOL xD
But I do aggree they fucked up Ryu's AA pretty much as SRk is supposingly one of teh best AA in SF but now its weaker than half teh cast AA. Might as well use C.Hp LOL.

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I dont hate shoto's, i hate SCRUBBY shoto's. Im glad they took out the free ultra off of mashed uppercuts out. It means bad players actually have to use their brains, which in the long run, is going to drastically improve their game.

[[NIUE] weazzyefff]

Bro your still getting Sagats high dmg combo wrong. It's been a while since i played but i'm sure it's j HP > s MP > hp TU > blah blah. Yer i'm sure the j Hp does more than Hk and the s MP does more than c MP . But yeah i might be wrong it's been ages.

KRUNK LIFE!!!!!!