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Started by zos'la, February 27, 2009, 04:06:45 PM

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fluxcore

I think even thinking of it as 'x char hard counters y char' is too much, if I simply do better with char x against char y, why shouldn't I use that char? 'Oh he picked Sagat. I main Rufus, but my Ryu is better against Sagat' - 'You have to use Rufus'. Being forced to limit yourself during a tournament lessens it a bit imo, but that's just my thought.

Definitely depends on a few other things about the tourney though - best of 3 games vs 1 game etc.
Any sufficiently godlike street fighter technique is indistinguishable from randomness

Hydro

Quote from: fluxcore on March 07, 2009, 08:53:19 PM
I think even thinking of it as 'x char hard counters y char' is too much, if I simply do better with char x against char y, why shouldn't I use that char? 'Oh he picked Sagat. I main Rufus, but my Ryu is better against Sagat' - 'You have to use Rufus'. Being forced to limit yourself during a tournament lessens it a bit imo, but that's just my thought.

Definitely depends on a few other things about the tourney though - best of 3 games vs 1 game etc.

I agree, and I'll add that actually the only thing only picking one character for the tourney does is that does limit ONLY those who CAN play mulitple characters, whether they be 'counter' characters or not.


So Ryu is the ONE character you feel confident on versus most matches, well mine may vary depending. So you get your way, and I have to lump it, who would you have me pick in this tourney? :/

Against Andy's ryu, my boxer is sufficient, against Ben's boxer maybe Gen, Chun or even Viper, Against Simon's Sim, hell, even Rose or Claw may be my most confident. As it stands those who can play multiple characters are at a disadvantage because of the one character only rule. Awesome.

It's Andy's tourney, and that's all good, needless to say the tourney Simon and I have planned will cater to a more varied character palette: Play who you like.

o.k: enough from me now, I'm feeling all negative and I'm sorry for bringing y'all down :(





zos'la

#137
Please keep this thread more clean and no flaming if possible, Ideas are welcome.

There will always be rules people don't agree on and i understand your comments regarding this one char rule.
I'm trying to make things simple and easy to go by, I hope you guys know what i mean.
Organising a tournament is not easy and thanks to many of you who has helped really appreciate it.
At this point I am also thinking about the new chars on the console version, testing if any others are too imbalance.
The rules I have taken is from other tournaments (Japan), I beleive they have their reasons and i think it is ok. I couldn't Agree more with the fact if you play more chars you will improve more since u know their ins and outs.

But this is a tournament, use ur main, come have fun, see how far u can go. Learn from your opponant and keep this community live.
This is what i am trying to achive.
Widen your eyes, there are always mountains higher than the ones you see.

zos'la

For now,
Ill just take the nick name/ real name.
Char specific information will be taken on the day and you will only tell the person who is organising the brackets.
Widen your eyes, there are always mountains higher than the ones you see.

Cr8zyK1LL3r

#139
I've just realized that new characters are not banned....

This is just my opinion.
I THINK: Players who don't have the game at home will have a "slightly??" disadvantage since they have no idea how to fight against new char. While the one who owns SF4 can read ur char moves just like reading a book.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

To be honest, If i have to fight against new char, I'd prefer to fight against Seth/Gouken. Even they are quite unbalance but at least I will know what their moves are and MAYBE i can counter them. But against new char = ????

Cheers !!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdE4MVfsJfo&feature=related Good luck to whoever pick Abel as their main char and have to face Fei-Long in the tournament.

zos'la

....that is just lame...it is infinite combo until daze...
I will really have to reconsider this.
Does anyone have any view points on this?
Widen your eyes, there are always mountains higher than the ones you see.

Cr8zyK1LL3r

Quote from: zosla on March 07, 2009, 11:44:19 PM
Please keep this thread more clean and no flaming if possible, Ideas are welcome.

I'm just warming up the fighting spirit for everyone :D hehe....

Lennysaurus

Quote from: hydrokinesis on March 07, 2009, 06:26:25 PM
Leo: Go Gen bro, read the combo thread on SRK for my current fav combo, does good damge for no meter and is piss easy. (Mantis) j.hk, s.mp, s.fp xx hands link s.mk xx hands. you can sub the last hands for super if you have meter, then ultra after that if you wish. Gen rules, and yes, his cross-up owns boxer all day lol. (OOh and Andy's lucky it doesn't work on shoto's!)

Yeah Ive devoured all the info on the thread in SRK.  I'm pretty sweet on all the combos atm and hit confirming into super.  Really enjoying playing him actually, just need to play against more good shoto, sagat, and gief players.

Ive got his Kara throw down too which helps alot.  Ive always been good at execution and stuff, just have to work on my spacing, pressure and patience atm.


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Gino

Quote from: zosla on March 08, 2009, 01:56:12 AM
....that is just lame...it is infinite combo until daze...
I will really have to reconsider this.
Does anyone have any view points on this?

just ban the inf. Char is fine

fluxcore

#144
Quote from: zosla on March 08, 2009, 01:56:12 AM
....that is just lame...it is infinite combo until daze...
I will really have to reconsider this.
Does anyone have any view points on this?

Here are my thoughts on the new chars.
Gouken: completely not a shoto, if that's what you think. His moves are utterly different to A/R/K. He is ok, only really dangerous thing I've seen is backthrow->ultra, which takes off tons. Completely legit char.
Seth: takes so much damage and stun, unless you are untouchable he's pretty worthless. Would take hella balls to play him in a tourney.
Gen: actually quite nasty. Has a very difficult to see cross-up, and you really need to block low forever if he has super/ultra, otherwise you're getting popped up into the air and a long and painful experience is coming your way. Also has really good priority on pretty much everything.
Sakura: not really that good at all. Needs quite a lot of EX meter to do any real damage. Poor distance game - gets raped by blanka.
Rose: Solid, but nothing especially tricky. Don't ever jump or throw a projectile when she has ultra.
Dan: pretty much sucks
Cammy: pretty much sucks
FeiLong: pretty much sucks - I wouldn't worry about his inf. on Abel/Seth, chances of seeing a FeiLong/Abel matchup are pretty low. Chances of seeing a FeiLong are pretty low too. El Fuerte has a semi-inf too on EVERYONE, and that's not being banned, so fuck it.

tldr;
Watch out for gouken's throw when he has ultra, and he is not a shoto
Gen is a tricky bastard in general
Everyone else is pretty blah

conclusion:
No-one is bannable yet.
Any sufficiently godlike street fighter technique is indistinguishable from randomness

[NIUE]iRONSoL

Wow cool the list of entries is growing 8), nearly on 20 players!

And looks like we've got the money sorted for RvB then yeah?
pringles

ABC_SMN


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdE4MVfsJfo&feature=related Good luck to whoever pick Abel as their main char and have to face Fei-Long in the tournament.



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....... Are u talking about me?
BASTARD :D

ABC_SMN

o well... I guess anyone who has Sf4 at home are playing Hardcore and wasting their spare time at home just playing.
If its like that... I dont think I will have enough time like "THOSE" people who thinks they are pros or even getting into the semi-quarter final.  >:(

But Yeah. I been playing alot of New Character too. but I reckon just using the original 17 Character on Arcade is very much Balance and Fair.

Dunno what else I could say. Since lots of pros and shit talker are around  ::)

ABC_SMN

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Cr8zyK1LL3r

Quote from: fluxcore on March 08, 2009, 10:07:28 AM
Quote from: zosla on March 08, 2009, 01:56:12 AM
....that is just lame...it is infinite combo until daze...
I will really have to reconsider this.
Does anyone have any view points on this?

Here are my thoughts on the new chars.
Gouken: completely not a shoto, if that's what you think. His moves are utterly different to A/R/K. He is ok, only really dangerous thing I've seen is backthrow->ultra, which takes off tons. Completely legit char.
Seth: takes so much damage and stun, unless you are untouchable he's pretty worthless. Would take hella balls to play him in a tourney.
Gen: actually quite nasty. Has a very difficult to see cross-up, and you really need to block low forever if he has super/ultra, otherwise you're getting popped up into the air and a long and painful experience is coming your way. Also has really good priority on pretty much everything.
Sakura: not really that good at all. Needs quite a lot of EX meter to do any real damage. Poor distance game - gets raped by blanka.
Rose: Solid, but nothing especially tricky. Don't ever jump or throw a projectile when she has ultra.
Dan: pretty much sucks
Cammy: pretty much sucks
FeiLong: pretty much sucks - I wouldn't worry about his inf. on Abel/Seth, chances of seeing a FeiLong/Abel matchup are pretty low. Chances of seeing a FeiLong are pretty low too. El Fuerte has a semi-inf too on EVERYONE, and that's not being banned, so fuck it.

tldr;
Watch out for gouken's throw when he has ultra, and he is not a shoto
Gen is a tricky bastard in general
Everyone else is pretty blah

conclusion:
No-one is bannable yet.

Thanks for ur info about the new chars.
And what's about the disadvantage for players who don't have SF4 compare to the one who got the game at home ?? Imagine u go to a tournament in tekken/mvc2/3rd strike and have to fight against some characters/teams that u have no idea how to counter their moves. Do u think u can win ? (I'm not talking about some noobs who keep spamming the buttons using them, i'm talking about average-high level games.)