How are you guys getting serious for Street Fighter!?
I have given up playing online at the moment. With my mains at least, due to lag affecting my timimng in offline games. Im organizing with one or two of the more hardout players to meet somewhere once a week so we can practice hardout. This includes taping and analysing matches.
I'm also dedicating 2 hours every other night to execution training. This will be mostly for El Fuerte, and getting my RSF up to 6 hits from a focus attack?
How hardcore are you guys getting with your training?
I'm interested in finding like minded people that are keen to level up.
Keen.
Smoof is srs! You can tell cause I sometimes get angry now =P Really I just need to play more people of every character so I can do as Leo and Kevin told me and L2 be offensive
yes im keen cuz my bison got a serious face called "Nighmare Booster DAMAGER!"
Also keen. I get 4-5 hits on RSF consistantly, and my record is 8, but fuck, seeing poongko get 10 hits without putting much effort in has given me a target goal. Id put in a lot more hours of execution training if i didnt spend roughly 5/7 nights a week at my GF's place. ie. no SF4 :(
Im trying not to get TOO serious. I dont want to rock up on tournament day with a head full of precious data, only to realise that good stuff doesnt work on flowchart ken, and subsequently get an embarrassing loss to someone terrible.
RSF at this point is the least of my concerns. Im confident enough with it to put it behind footsies/fundamentals in terms of training, since that is my weak point. (2-4 hits of RSF in a real match is fine for me at this point.) I leave too many openings, and generally lose to stupid stuff/basic punishment.
Quote from: Lennysaurus Rex on July 14, 2009, 10:28:07 AM
How are you guys getting serious for Street Fighter!?
I have given up playing online at the moment. With my mains at least, due to lag affecting my timimng in offline games. Im organizing with one or two of the more hardout players to meet somewhere once a week so we can practice hardout. This includes taping and analysing matches.
I'm also dedicating 2 hours every other night to execution training. This will be mostly for El Fuerte, and getting my RSF up to 6 hits from a focus attack?
How hardcore are you guys getting with your training?
I'm interested in finding like minded people that are keen to level up.
At least four hours a day with Viper combos in different situaitons (all morning usually). FFF, inst sjc Bk, strings, links and counter links, everything I can do to get my execution near perfect, including timing on different characters. I often set cpu to record and go through different senarios for tech throw and blocking pressure strings too.
Count me in for the meet up bro, you know I'm only 10 mins away. ;)
Quote from: iMagneto on July 14, 2009, 10:41:51 AM
yes im keen cuz my bison got a serious face called "Nighmare Booster DAMAGER!"
fixed ;)
Im really really serious about this. I want to headover to Australia next year and take a team over, to show the aussies what we are made of. And am only interested in taking over a team that is seriously competitive and there to win.
XLAN has really spurred me on regards street fighter IV.
BILL: I am likely going to start maining fuerte and using gouken and gen as backups. I have come across alot of sweet stuff for fuerte,and I believe that his game plan doesnt have to rely pn a set of 50/50 decisions.
good to see you guys going serious.
its amazing that you practice so much James. good to see you tryign so hard.
Quote from: Lennysaurus Rex on July 14, 2009, 11:56:30 AM
Im really really serious about this. I want to headover to Australia next year and take a team over, to show the aussies what we are made of. And am only interested in taking over a team that is seriously competitive and there to win.
XLAN has really spurred me on regards street fighter IV.
I think a good idea for this would be holding some ranbat sort of things as well, maybe chart up wins against people and what chars they were using. I noticed that a lot of you guys were getting the competitive jitters when playing and missing shit that I've really never seen you guys miss before. I guess this comes into what you were saying at xlan about Simon and Kevin really training whereas a lot of the time we're not really taking the matches that seriously. If I go I'll put on my serious face and treat it like I do arena
Quote from: Lennysaurus Rex on July 14, 2009, 11:56:30 AM
Im really really serious about this. I want to headover to Australia next year and take a team over, to show the aussies what we are made of. And am only interested in taking over a team that is seriously competitive and there to win.
XLAN has really spurred me on regards street fighter IV.
BILL: I am likely going to start maining fuerte and using gouken and gen as backups. I have come across alot of sweet stuff for fuerte,and I believe that his game plan doesnt have to rely pn a set of 50/50 decisions.
Sounds like you've been watching Tetsu and TKD too? Best fuerte's in the world IMO.
But yea, thats why i didnt drop him for ryu/sagat in the end. I'm trying to change up my playstyle to stop relying on guesswork, but old habits die hard unfortunately. I want to learn the c.mk loop for the hell of it, but the timing on that shit is HELL strict.
if you guys to head over these ways ill def take annual from work and meet up with yous.
Quote from: Smoofikith on July 14, 2009, 12:35:37 PM
I guess this comes into what you were saying at xlan about Simon and Kevin really training whereas a lot of the time we're not really taking the matches that seriously. If I go I'll put on my serious face and treat it like I do arena
Before Xlan, Simon and Kevin always asked me and Cody to train with them. But whenever we went to Giga, we ended up playing Computer games for over 5 hours and SF4 for 1 hour. lol.....
Quote from: hydrokinesis on July 14, 2009, 11:27:18 AM
At least four hours a day with Viper combos in different situaitons(all morning usually). FFF, inst sjc Bk, strings, links and counter links, everything I can do to get my execution near perfect, including timing on different characters. I often set cpu to record and go through different senarios for tech throw and blocking pressure strings too.
..............................
Are you planning to defeat Daigo and Justin Wong ??
Quote from: Cr8zyK1LL3r on July 14, 2009, 02:12:52 PM
Quote from: hydrokinesis on July 14, 2009, 11:27:18 AM
At least four hours a day with Viper combos in different situaitons(all morning usually). FFF, inst sjc Bk, strings, links and counter links, everything I can do to get my execution near perfect, including timing on different characters. I often set cpu to record and go through different senarios for tech throw and blocking pressure strings too.
..............................
Are you planning to defeat Daigo and Justin Wong ??
if i owned it, id be doing alot more then that lol :P
Quote from: ADism on July 14, 2009, 02:14:04 PM
if i owned it, id be doing alot more then that lol :P
I had exactly the same thought with you before buying my PS3. But after I got it, I noticed that my skills went down instead of going up. lol.....
The main reason is that I don't feel any pressure when I play with somebody coz even If i lose the match, I'm not losing any money. So I am too relax when i play and my reaction skill goes down a lot.
with viper you pretty much need to do that to do them consistently.
Quote from: Cr8zyK1LL3r on July 14, 2009, 02:12:52 PM
Quote from: hydrokinesis on July 14, 2009, 11:27:18 AM
At least four hours a day with Viper combos in different situaitons(all morning usually). FFF, inst sjc Bk, strings, links and counter links, everything I can do to get my execution near perfect, including timing on different characters. I often set cpu to record and go through different senarios for tech throw and blocking pressure strings too.
..............................
Are you planning to defeat Daigo and Justin Wong ??
Have my thumbs up for this coming tourny!!! I think i should just retire!!! why bother when i cant even stay in practice mode more than 5 min...
I think I should just join u guys in Gundam online HUe... give up give up la!!!
Quote from: Cr8zyK1LL3r on July 14, 2009, 02:28:23 PM
Quote from: ADism on July 14, 2009, 02:14:04 PM
if i owned it, id be doing alot more then that lol :P
I had exactly the same thought with you before buying my PS3. But after I got it, I noticed that my skills went down instead of going up. lol.....
The main reason is that I don't feel any pressure when I play with somebody coz even If i lose the match, I'm not losing any money. So I am too relax when i play and my reaction skill goes down a lot.
PS3 is too laggy compared to xbl and msl.
that is another reason teh links are broken.
Quote from: Cr8zyK1LL3r on July 14, 2009, 02:12:52 PM
Quote from: hydrokinesis on July 14, 2009, 11:27:18 AM
At least four hours a day with Viper combos in different situaitons(all morning usually). FFF, inst sjc Bk, strings, links and counter links, everything I can do to get my execution near perfect, including timing on different characters. I often set cpu to record and go through different senarios for tech throw and blocking pressure strings too.
..............................
Are you planning to defeat Daigo and Justin Wong ??
Na bro, just you and Kevin. ;) But yeah, my mornings always revolve around a good Viper training sesh, you like my combos Hue?
Guys, get back on topic!
Quote from: zosla on July 14, 2009, 02:36:56 PM
Quote from: Cr8zyK1LL3r on July 14, 2009, 02:28:23 PM
Quote from: ADism on July 14, 2009, 02:14:04 PM
if i owned it, id be doing alot more then that lol :P
I had exactly the same thought with you before buying my PS3. But after I got it, I noticed that my skills went down instead of going up. lol.....
The main reason is that I don't feel any pressure when I play with somebody coz even If i lose the match, I'm not losing any money. So I am too relax when i play and my reaction skill goes down a lot.
PS3 is too laggy compared to xbl and msl.
that is another reason teh links are broken.
Even XBL is pretty crap. PC version is probably the best on that front.
Quote from: fluxcore on July 14, 2009, 02:30:04 PM
with viper you pretty much need to do that to do them consistently.
Amen my brother, amen.
Quote from: ILL_BILL on July 14, 2009, 02:40:22 PM
Quote from: zosla on July 14, 2009, 02:36:56 PM
Quote from: Cr8zyK1LL3r on July 14, 2009, 02:28:23 PM
Quote from: ADism on July 14, 2009, 02:14:04 PM
if i owned it, id be doing alot more then that lol :P
I had exactly the same thought with you before buying my PS3. But after I got it, I noticed that my skills went down instead of going up. lol.....
The main reason is that I don't feel any pressure when I play with somebody coz even If i lose the match, I'm not losing any money. So I am too relax when i play and my reaction skill goes down a lot.
PS3 is too laggy compared to xbl and msl.
that is another reason teh links are broken.
Even XBL is pretty crap. PC version is probably the best on that front.
Ive found my 360 version alot better to play on than pc . Maybe its a mental thing .
Quote from: fluxcore on July 14, 2009, 02:30:04 PM
with viper you pretty much need to do that to do them consistently.
If we look at Japanese tournament clips, I guess Joe and KZ train their C.Viper Combo at least 6 hours every single day in order to keep them consistently.
But according to 1 of my Japanese mate, Those players learned the combo in the first few days they played. And at that time, The game wasn't even out on PS3/Xbox360.
James : I love your combo ^_^ it looks pretty cool.
Quote from: stereomonkey on July 14, 2009, 02:39:44 PM
Guys, get back on topic!
lol.... we are always off topic :p
Lenny, if you really want to do serious training, I guess we can do it once every weekend (4 times/month). I can try to get cody, simon and maybe Kevin to join also.
Quote from: Cr8zyK1LL3r on July 14, 2009, 02:51:29 PM
Quote from: stereomonkey on July 14, 2009, 02:39:44 PM
Guys, get back on topic!
lol.... we are always off topic :p
Lenny, if you really want to do serious training, I guess we can do it once every weekend (4 times/month). I can try to get cody, simon and maybe Kevin to join also.
Yeah Hue, itd be great to get some training in with you guys. Where would we do it?
I think I might skip the training....... Every week? No thanks..... Like... time to time is ok.... Due to the special Thanks to Hue that he Lure me into some Online games as well..... and Andy must have to thanks me for that too....
PS: NO MORE HELL Training FOR ME!!!! (b4 xlan)
Quote from: B1ackstar Ninja on July 14, 2009, 02:42:06 PM
Quote from: ILL_BILL on July 14, 2009, 02:40:22 PM
Quote from: zosla on July 14, 2009, 02:36:56 PM
Quote from: Cr8zyK1LL3r on July 14, 2009, 02:28:23 PM
Quote from: ADism on July 14, 2009, 02:14:04 PM
if i owned it, id be doing alot more then that lol :P
I had exactly the same thought with you before buying my PS3. But after I got it, I noticed that my skills went down instead of going up. lol.....
The main reason is that I don't feel any pressure when I play with somebody coz even If i lose the match, I'm not losing any money. So I am too relax when i play and my reaction skill goes down a lot.
PS3 is too laggy compared to xbl and msl.
that is another reason teh links are broken.
Even XBL is pretty crap. PC version is probably the best on that front.
Ive found my 360 version alot better to play on than pc . Maybe its a mental thing .
Well with some luck Capcom will have seen how the netcode can be done right (i.e BlazBlue) and release a patch to make SF4 online rock.
Quote from: Lennysaurus Rex on July 14, 2009, 02:57:23 PM
Quote from: Cr8zyK1LL3r on July 14, 2009, 02:51:29 PM
Quote from: stereomonkey on July 14, 2009, 02:39:44 PM
Guys, get back on topic!
lol.... we are always off topic :p
Lenny, if you really want to do serious training, I guess we can do it once every weekend (4 times/month). I can try to get cody, simon and maybe Kevin to join also.
Yeah Hue, itd be great to get some training in with you guys. Where would we do it?
Giga!!!!
@ Hue I found the same thing man, playing online made me even worse than I was. I've started playing pretty much exclusively at LAN and at Yifans only now. The only time I really do my console ver is to hit training a few nights a week before I go to bed to help my muscle memory
Quote from: ABC_SMN on July 14, 2009, 03:01:01 PM
I think I might skip the training....... Every week? No thanks..... Like... time to time is ok.... Due to the special Thanks to Hue that he Lure me into some Online games as well..... and Andy must have to thanks me for that too....
PS: NO MORE HELL Training FOR ME!!!! (b4 xlan)
........ Okay, fine. No more training for you !! Just get ur ass ready to get raped at the next tournament then. lol....
common Simon..... Doing it once a week for 2-3 hours is not too bad. We can have mini tournament/team vs team and loser team = getting drinks for winners :D It's not a bad idea and I'm sure it would be fun ^_^
omg it's just like yifans except we get a drink streak rather than a win streak!
I'm not down for intensive training as tournaments don't mean jack to me. I'm more in this for the long hawl, whatever comes. Online or offline I don't care.
Drink-matches are always good. Whether its 'loser buys' or, 'loser skulls their vessel', everyone wins.
Except richard, who just ends up getting shit-faced, waking up in a gutter, with herbal essence lathered through his hair.
Quote from: ILL_BILL on July 14, 2009, 03:57:53 PM
Drink-matches are always good. Whether its 'loser buys' or, 'loser skulls their vessel', everyone wins.
Except richard, who just ends up getting shit-faced, waking up in a gutter, with herbal essence lathered through his hair.
HAHA
Quote from: ADism on July 14, 2009, 04:35:48 PM
Quote from: ILL_BILL on July 14, 2009, 03:57:53 PM
Drink-matches are always good. Whether its 'loser buys' or, 'loser skulls their vessel', everyone wins.
Except richard, who just ends up getting shit-faced, waking up in a gutter, with herbal essence lathered through his hair.
HAHA
LOL BILL u mean man..wot sup with Richard.....dis too much..... :D :D :D
Quote from: gunsmoke on July 14, 2009, 05:21:14 PM
Quote from: ADism on July 14, 2009, 04:35:48 PM
Quote from: ILL_BILL on July 14, 2009, 03:57:53 PM
Drink-matches are always good. Whether its 'loser buys' or, 'loser skulls their vessel', everyone wins.
Except richard, who just ends up getting shit-faced, waking up in a gutter, with herbal essence lathered through his hair.
HAHA
LOL BILL u mean man..wot sup with Richard.....dis too much..... :D :D :D
Lol Ben, you obviously havent seen the video. :D
Good shit you guys, cool to hear about the dedication.
Zero comp here though so my training is training mode and online.
I have started taping matches though, mainly to get matchup ideas and notice what I'm missing. It really does help heaps. Even just knowing you are taping the match makes you amp it up a bit. Also for vid material ;)
Some of you have been caught on cam already. Hope you don't mind.
I play 1-3 hours a day and when bubs comes that'll be down to zero for a while. I'll try and squeeze in some games and training before heading up to play you guys. And I think getting owned by some of you at Yifan's and Geneterror's the night before might help.
Alot of pressure being the only Southern man at the tourney. :D
Anyways....
Serious training...... NO!!!!
For drinks and fun game..... why not.....
As long as you guys text me.... then I might be able to come along....
around 4pm to 8pm training will be a good time.....
See who are the losers for the night and shout dinner for the winners :D
somebody organize a trainning day~ so i get notice advance to my work~ 2 weeks hurry la!!
simon go and jerk off urself and get a plan la lol
Quote from: ABC_SMN on July 14, 2009, 11:06:56 PM
Anyways....
Serious training...... NO!!!!
For drinks and fun game..... why not.....
As long as you guys text me.... then I might be able to come along....
around 4pm to 8pm training will be a good time.....
See who are the losers for the night and shout dinner for the winners :D
this guy always love to gamble.
Quote from: Cr8zyK1LL3r on July 15, 2009, 12:23:02 AM
Quote from: ABC_SMN on July 14, 2009, 11:06:56 PM
Anyways....
Serious training...... NO!!!!
For drinks and fun game..... why not.....
As long as you guys text me.... then I might be able to come along....
around 4pm to 8pm training will be a good time.....
See who are the losers for the night and shout dinner for the winners :D
this guy always love to gamble.
Is that why he cant afford to play at yifans? :P
Quote from: ILL_BILL on July 14, 2009, 05:38:24 PM
Quote from: gunsmoke on July 14, 2009, 05:21:14 PM
Quote from: ADism on July 14, 2009, 04:35:48 PM
Quote from: ILL_BILL on July 14, 2009, 03:57:53 PM
Drink-matches are always good. Whether its 'loser buys' or, 'loser skulls their vessel', everyone wins.
Except richard, who just ends up getting shit-faced, waking up in a gutter, with herbal essence lathered through his hair.
HAHA
LOL BILL u mean man..wot sup with Richard.....dis too much..... :D :D :D
Lol Ben, you obviously havent seen the video. :D
tru
Yeah! Lets get something underway!
Quote from: CrazyMobius on July 14, 2009, 03:36:21 PM
I'm not down for intensive training as tournaments don't mean jack to me. I'm more in this for the long hawl, whatever comes. Online or offline I don't care.
don't put it as intensive training but more of gathering? get together have a few drinks and games and laugh about it at the end of the day.
back on track,
stupidfish do some work here.
Ok guys......
I heard so many stories from individual player
Some of you guys say its a bit too much.......
Some says cant make it every week.......
There are training coming up and National.....
What will be a great time to book at Giga?
You guys text me to organise it...
How many people are interested in this particular training?
l dont like Gambling.... Some BODY.......... always contribute this idea.....
I mean... SOMe.... Body........ You might know him pretty well......
SomeBODY!!!!!
Smoof! Make it on SATURDAY
im gonna go in and wing it.
Quote from: samurai black on July 15, 2009, 01:56:51 PM
im gonna go in and wing it.
thats why richard never wins....EVAR :P
Richard vs David BEER MATCH ON.
I'm getting serious by selling my copy of SFIV and forgetting it exists!
Quote from: Orochi Leona on July 15, 2009, 04:27:21 PM
I'm getting serious by selling my copy of SFIV and forgetting it exists!
Is battle fantasia really that good?
Quote from: Orochi Leona on July 15, 2009, 04:27:21 PM
I'm getting serious by selling my copy of SFIV and forgetting it exists!
I already sold both of myne 8)
Quote from: Smoofikith on July 15, 2009, 04:28:53 PM
Quote from: Orochi Leona on July 15, 2009, 04:27:21 PM
I'm getting serious by selling my copy of SFIV and forgetting it exists!
Is battle fantasia really that good?
Haven't actually played Battle Fantasia yet. I wanted to though, back in October when it was supposed to be released...
lies Euan LIES!!! I just played u last night :P or are u talking about xbox :D?
Quote from: zosla on July 16, 2009, 08:15:48 AM
lies Euan LIES!!! I just played u last night :P or are u talking about xbox :D?
Yeah my xbox ones :)
Quote from: Orochi Leona on July 16, 2009, 01:53:18 AM
Quote from: Smoofikith on July 15, 2009, 04:28:53 PM
Quote from: Orochi Leona on July 15, 2009, 04:27:21 PM
I'm getting serious by selling my copy of SFIV and forgetting it exists!
Is battle fantasia really that good?
Haven't actually played Battle Fantasia yet. I wanted to though, back in October when it was supposed to be released...
I have the demo on my PS3 you could have played it at my place. You can download it from the Hong Kong PSN store. That's were I got it from.
hey lenny im keen as add me in bro
Im in Bro ;D. Serious Training and analysis for me please :o :o. I need it bad, up my skill level. Im down for OzHadou next year too ;)
Quote from: CptMunta on July 16, 2009, 10:49:05 AM
I have the demo on my PS3 you could have played it at my place. You can download it from the Hong Kong PSN store. That's were I got it from.
When I said I hadn't played it, I meant that I hadn't played the full game, with characters I -wanted- to play.
I had the demo, but I didn't want to play as Marco or that chainsaw dude, so I got rid of it after a while.
Shit man I'd be keen as....can't really practise with Rose down at Yifans..and on-line can be laggy...which fucks my timing. Besides I can only play my best mate for so long....usually got no wheels -so anyone in my local area would be great. I live central and my mate lives in Mt eden.....Street Fighta party anyone?
DVS aka Gene ;D
Quote from: Lennysaurus Rex on July 14, 2009, 10:28:07 AM
How are you guys getting serious for Street Fighter!?
I have given up playing online at the moment. With my mains at least, due to lag affecting my timimng in offline games. Im organizing with one or two of the more hardout players to meet somewhere once a week so we can practice hardout. This includes taping and analysing matches.
I'm also dedicating 2 hours every other night to execution training. This will be mostly for El Fuerte, and getting my RSF up to 6 hits from a focus attack?
How hardcore are you guys getting with your training?
I'm interested in finding like minded people that are keen to level up.
Hey Gene it's Graeme. Do you have a spare stick for PS3, if you do you can come round to my place with Kelvin for a jam if you want. If you don't have a PS3 stick my TE stick should be turning up in the next couple of weeks and then I'll have two. PM me your cell number bro and we'll try and hook something up.
I overtrained, and i have now got into the habit of using the focus WAAAAY too much, and throwing my matches out the window.
Case in point: 2 rounds up against simon, then started overusing the focus, and ate like 4 j.hk -> TIGER UPPERCUT and ended up losing.
Fuck i hate getting worse. >_<
Quote from: ILL_BILL on July 24, 2009, 01:05:21 PM
I overtrained, and i have now got into the habit of using the focus WAAAAY too much, and throwing my matches out the window.
Case in point: 2 rounds up against simon, then started overusing the focus, and ate like 4 j.hk -> TIGER UPPERCUT and ended up losing.
Fuck i hate getting worse. >_<
eha I went through that phase too. God it sucks.
Quote from: ILL_BILL on July 24, 2009, 01:05:21 PM
I overtrained, and i have now got into the habit of using the focus WAAAAY too much, and throwing my matches out the window.
Case in point: 2 rounds up against simon, then started overusing the focus, and ate like 4 j.hk -> TIGER UPPERCUT and ended up losing.
Fuck i hate getting worse. >_<
OOoOo Sagit powerful eh!!!
scary to know!!!!
Quote from: ILL_BILL on July 24, 2009, 01:05:21 PM
I overtrained, and i have now got into the habit of using the focus WAAAAY too much, and throwing my matches out the window.
Case in point: 2 rounds up against simon, then started overusing the focus, and ate like 4 j.hk -> TIGER UPPERCUT and ended up losing.
Fuck i hate getting worse. >_<
Well, it's encouraging to hear you know where you're going wrong. I'm sure you'll be more conscious of it now, and that's really all that it takes to eliminate bad habits from your play.
It's kinda like people and the wake up sho00000ryu0000ken or wake up Boxer headbutts, just forget about the move all together, train yourself NOT to do it, seriously it'll force you to utilize your character in other ways that don't rely on high risk guessing games and stupid gambles. It also does something for people who are at an intermediate level and often miss: Introspective analysis: critiquing your own playstyle strengths and most importantly your oversights and weaknesses.
Quote from: ILL_BILL on July 24, 2009, 01:05:21 PM
I overtrained, and i have now got into the habit of using the focus WAAAAY too much, and throwing my matches out the window.
Case in point: 2 rounds up against simon, then started overusing the focus, and ate like 4 j.hk -> TIGER UPPERCUT and ended up losing.
Fuck i hate getting worse. >_<
Man playing Sagat gets pretty boring. Strong or not -_-
Quote from: CrazyMobius on July 24, 2009, 03:43:30 PM
Quote from: ILL_BILL on July 24, 2009, 01:05:21 PM
I overtrained, and i have now got into the habit of using the focus WAAAAY too much, and throwing my matches out the window.
Case in point: 2 rounds up against simon, then started overusing the focus, and ate like 4 j.hk -> TIGER UPPERCUT and ended up losing.
Fuck i hate getting worse. >_<
Man playing Sagat gets pretty boring. Strong or not -_-
aww, this was asian simon. but yea. i got 23 wins after you left today. I kept getting challenged by this group of TERRIBLE indian dudes. I beat one guy using nothing but fuertes slide. O_o
It was dumb though. I would stop and take my hands of the stick to give a round, which they would win, and then they would be fucking cheering and shit, despite the fact that the group of them could see i wasnt even playing O_o.
Quote from: hydrokinesis on July 24, 2009, 03:03:34 PM
Quote from: ILL_BILL on July 24, 2009, 01:05:21 PM
I overtrained, and i have now got into the habit of using the focus WAAAAY too much, and throwing my matches out the window.
Case in point: 2 rounds up against simon, then started overusing the focus, and ate like 4 j.hk -> TIGER UPPERCUT and ended up losing.
Fuck i hate getting worse. >_<
Well, it's encouraging to hear you know where you're going wrong. I'm sure you'll be more conscious of it now, and that's really all that it takes to eliminate bad habits from your play.
It's kinda like people and the wake up sho00000ryu0000ken or wake up Boxer headbutts, just forget about the move all together, train yourself NOT to do it, seriously it'll force you to utilize your character in other ways that don't rely on high risk guessing games and stupid gambles. It also does something for people who are at an intermediate level and often miss: Introspective analysis: critiquing your own playstyle strengths and most importantly your oversights and weaknesses.
Haha, youd think i would be conscious of it. I think its the same reason i can only get 3 friggin rsf hits at yifans. Its stuck in my muscle memory at this point. >_<
Quote from: ILL_BILL on July 24, 2009, 03:49:37 PM
It was dumb though. I would stop and take my hands of the stick to give a round, which they would win, and then they would be fucking cheering and shit, despite the fact that the group of them could see i wasnt even playing O_o.
My rule is: No mercy, you should seriously try it. If someone challenges you, no matter how bad they are, make them fuckin scared to put their two dollars (or push the 'ready' button for online play) for the next time. I don't know why I used to give people rounds before, if they're not good enough to win I don't want them to challenge me again, why even encourage it by giving them a free round to get their hopes up eh? :)
But yeah, them cheering and shit is ass. . .
Quote from: hydrokinesis on July 24, 2009, 04:15:34 PM
Quote from: ILL_BILL on July 24, 2009, 03:49:37 PM
It was dumb though. I would stop and take my hands of the stick to give a round, which they would win, and then they would be fucking cheering and shit, despite the fact that the group of them could see i wasnt even playing O_o.
My rule is: No mercy, you should seriously try it. If someone challenges you, no matter how bad they are, make them fuckin scared to put their two dollars (or push the 'ready' button for online play) for the next time. I don't know why I used to give people rounds before, if they're not good enough to win I don't want them to challenge me again, why even encourage it by giving them a free round to get their hopes up eh? :)
But yeah, them cheering and shit is ass. . .
That's how all the japs play. Don't put your $2 down unless you can actually play. I reckon there's a time to play no mercy and a time to sit back and try new shit like that big damager combo you've been working on in tranining
There have always been two arguments about that. One is what you're saying, and the other is to give the guy a helping hand so he might want to play more and get better.
Obviously you can get into psychology and whatnot from here, but that's the gist.
I just feel bad. If im running rings around someone, i like to give them SOME value for money. I probably should be a bit more cutthroat.
Yeah, video games are cool like that cause you can lead by example or lead by teaching people why they got fucked up/what they can improve on. That's one of the things that I love because age and shit doesn't come into gaming as much as it does in sport
Quote from: ILL_BILL on July 24, 2009, 04:44:10 PM
I just feel bad. If im running rings around someone, i like to give them SOME value for money. I probably should be a bit more cutthroat.
I know what you mean, but the question I ended up asking myself after giving a round was "Why?". I'd rather fight the CPU then most of the scrubs online/yifans hahaha.
I can understand taking it easy when you're playing with your buds and shit, but at Yifans against the randoms I'm like FFF til the red water comes out.
EDIT: Yeah Alan I know just what you mean, and I do try to give advice to people when I can see it may be merited, and I genuinely try to help my peers get better, but. . . giving a free round, IMO, isn't really helping/teaching/giving advice unless you're talking to them while you're at it, and let's face it, at yifans, there's almsot like a no speaking policy when you're sitting at the cabinet lol.
Just thought I would share my first time experience playing SF4 at Yifans while we are talking about it. Was about 3 weeks ago now. Rocked up during lunchtime, was really looking forward to seeing what the actual arcade game was like. I gotta say when I found it I was thinking to myself that it looked pretty old and the screen was pretty fuzzy too.
It was funny there was an Asian guy wearing glasses playing Zangief and knowing that I had very little time I thought I had to get in a quick game and run. I put my $2 bucks in and pressed start and selected the option to challenge. A young maori fulla came up to me and said "oh you challenging this guy! - he's been on it for ages, I've been waiting to play but I aint gonna challenge him!" I laughed and said "Gotta give it a bash aye."
It was faster than console play on the PS3 which took a bit of getting used to. Actually it was quite a good fight when it came down to it - his Zangief was good and I was thinking man I havent played a Zangief that uses so many of his light attacks. I lost and I popped my head over and said "Good game man" the asian guy nodded his head in acknowlegdement. The Maori fulla said "Close bro!" I laughed cos I got skooled in the last round.
I didnt think much of the arcade set up at Yifans for SF4 and hope that they upgrade it and do it justice. It wasnt till I saw the vids at Xlan that I recognised I played against the man himself. The final Damager!
Quote from: hydrokinesis on July 24, 2009, 04:47:31 PM
Quote from: ILL_BILL on July 24, 2009, 04:44:10 PM
I just feel bad. If im running rings around someone, i like to give them SOME value for money. I probably should be a bit more cutthroat.
I know what you mean, but the question I ended up asking myself after giving a round was "Why?". I'd rather fight the CPU then most of the scrubs online/yifans hahaha.
I can understand taking it easy when you're playing with your buds and shit, but at Yifans against the randoms I'm like FFF til the red water comes out.
EDIT: Yeah Alan I know just what you mean, and I do try to give advice to people when I can see it may be merited, and I genuinely try to help my peers get better, but. . . giving a free round, IMO, isn't really helping/teaching/giving advice unless you're talking to them while you're at it, and let's face it, at yifans, there's almsot like a no speaking policy when you're sitting at the cabinet lol.
Yeah, if I come up against a scrub online and it's a decent connection I start with main play hard out and then go through all the cast I'm at least half decent at. Just to test stuff outside training mode or to find holes in my defence/offence. Then random select if they haven't given my secondary's any trouble.
If they've spent time on a 10 plus loosing streak then they have to be hungry so I pm them some tips, which they can take or leave.
If it's in arcade and they pump $20 into a machine just trying to beat you then you owe them a pep talk I reckon.
Quote from: CoffinDrop1 on July 25, 2009, 12:18:54 AM
Just thought I would share my first time experience playing SF4 at Yifans while we are talking about it. Was about 3 weeks ago now. Rocked up during lunchtime, was really looking forward to seeing what the actual arcade game was like. I gotta say when I found it I was thinking to myself that it looked pretty old and the screen was pretty fuzzy too.
It was funny there was an Asian guy wearing glasses playing Zangief and knowing that I had very little time I thought I had to get in a quick game and run. I put my $2 bucks in and pressed start and selected the option to challenge. A young maori fulla came up to me and said "oh you challenging this guy! - he's been on it for ages, I've been waiting to play but I aint gonna challenge him!" I laughed and said "Gotta give it a bash aye."
It was faster than console play on the PS3 which took a bit of getting used to. Actually it was quite a good fight when it came down to it - his Zangief was good and I was thinking man I havent played a Zangief that uses so many of his light attacks. I lost and I popped my head over and said "Good game man" the asian guy nodded his head in acknowlegdement. The Maori fulla said "Close bro!" I laughed cos I got skooled in the last round.
I didnt think much of the arcade set up at Yifans for SF4 and hope that they upgrade it and do it justice. It wasnt till I saw the vids at Xlan that I recognised I played against the man himself. The final Damager!
. . . wait a sec, asian dude, glasses, playing Zangief. . . congrats coffin, you just played Kevin/Devilstar. He's decent eh?
Quote from: CoffinDrop1 on July 25, 2009, 12:18:54 AM
It wasnt till I saw the vids at Xlan that I recognised I played against the man himself. The final Damager!
:D
Ive stopped playing online. Ive found that the timing throws me out so much that its not worth it anymore.
I get plenty of offline play anyway. And now Im taking a 6 month sabatical from work, ill prob start visiting yiffans alot more.
Quote from: Lennysaurus Rex on July 25, 2009, 10:30:15 AM
Ive stopped playing online. Ive found that the timing throws me out so much that its not worth it anymore.
I get plenty of offline play anyway. And now Im taking a 6 month sabatical from work, ill prob start visiting yiffans alot more.
You coming to RVB bro?
Quote from: Lennysaurus Rex on July 25, 2009, 10:30:15 AM
I get plenty of offline play anyway. And now Im taking a 6 month sabatical from work, ill prob start visiting yiffans alot more.
You must be using this time to worship the gods of fighting games ;)
Quote from: Toomeke on July 25, 2009, 10:36:45 AM
Quote from: Lennysaurus Rex on July 25, 2009, 10:30:15 AM
Ive stopped playing online. Ive found that the timing throws me out so much that its not worth it anymore.
I get plenty of offline play anyway. And now Im taking a 6 month sabatical from work, ill prob start visiting yiffans alot more.
You coming to RVB bro?
Yeah Lenny bro, you goin? It wouldn't be the same without you there. . .
I'll see everyone at midday! Hope to put some names to faces today too :)
Nah Im still sick as Fuck. Plus I might still be contageous according to the doctor! Have fun though guys!
I remember when the SF wasn't so bubbling as now at Yifans I would be hanging out for any challenge, scrub or not. I was playing Hugo then on 3S. You couldn't afford to be cut throat if you wanted at least a few challenges. So what I would do is play dumb ass in the first game getting hit by fireballs and just basic stuff and then play serious in the last rounds. This gave the dudes the impression that they lost cos of some bad luck. It would usually mean they would challenge for at least a few more dollars and then the more they challenged the more cut-throat I would play. But at least you got some human competition out of it.
With SF4 if I'm playing a real scrub at Yifans I'll give him seconds cos it's $2 a game, that's pretty expensive and not everyone has it at home. I mean yeah winning is important and all that but some of these guys just want to try the thing out and it just seems pretty suckful for some new guy to have his $2 pissed down the drain.
If it's online I won't give seconds cos it's free and they can just play again.
I think it's sad to hear that the idea of top competition means giving up online play. It kinda seems like putting the horse before the cart. I was so psyched when this first came out knowing that peeps could play each other at their own homes. As I've gotten older my commitments have changed and it's just not like the old days when dudes used to hang out together and just play some SF til the wee hours. Peeps got kids, marriages and jobs that take up most of that free time.
But as internet connections get faster and faster I guess soon this lag thing might not be such a big issue.
BTW is anyone out there playing SFIV on dialup? :D
Its called hustling ;)
But regarding online - after seeing BB's netcode I think SF can do alot better, ive played many games vs Toomeke that were virtually lag free, ive never played an online SF game like that. Hopefully later SF patches etc can make the online experience what it deserves to be (for 98% of players anyway).
The top Pro's will always prefer arcade or locally on the same console so they can be 100% sure that the DP they missed was them screwing up and not some variable latency.
Lag will always be an issue for Pro players - the internet does not provide any form of QOS so gaming traffic will always be best effort - more BW can help in some situations but will never provide the guarantee's that Pro players require.
^ So true,
SF4 online is the only comp I really have expect my brother and his friend and they only play shotos.
It sucks when you are hanging out for a game and you end up playing a cross up happy laggy ken scrub. You stop playing your game and play to counter lagg tactics.
I say there are 2 games in Street Fighter 4, Street Fighter and strobe fighter.
Case and point from today:
Played a shoto player called Born-2-XLR8 ::)
Cross up Kens with lagg piss me off I normally don't bother. I was stupid enough to play him 5 games won 4 of them despite the lagg and dp antics.
He sends me a message:
"Ur pretty easy to beat, you just got lucky with your ultras at the end."
I facepalmed. I just wanted to message him back "Yeah I get lucky 4 out of 5 matches and lucky enough to ultra your wiffed dps."
I know it's petty, but you want to school them hard and teach them lagg tactics won't work in real life. But online sadly they do :(
from a newbies perspective, i always get free rounds in yifans and i really do appreciate it :)
Quote from: CptMunta on July 25, 2009, 07:06:09 PM
^ So true,
SF4 online is the only comp I really have expect my brother and his friend and they only play shotos.
It sucks when you are hanging out for a game and you end up playing a cross up happy laggy ken scrub. You stop playing your game and play to counter lagg tactics.
I say there are 2 games in Street Fighter 4, Street Fighter and strobe fighter.
Case and point from today:
Played a shoto player called Born-2-XLR8 ::)
Cross up Kens with lagg piss me off I normally don't bother. I was stupid enough to play him 5 games won 4 of them despite the lagg and dp antics.
He sends me a message:
"Ur pretty easy to beat, you just got lucky with your ultras at the end."
I facepalmed. I just wanted to message him back "Yeah I get lucky 4 out of 5 matches and lucky enough to ultra your wiffed dps."
I know it's petty, but you want to school them hard and teach them lagg tactics won't work in real life. But online sadly they do :(
I would have said - "You best go back to driving sims brother."
I hate falling for lag tactics.... or seeing the jump nice and early, hitting that crouching roundhouse only for nothing to happen, then the rh kicks in and it's far too later and you get a meaty on you.
Problem is, there is no arcade here in Nelson. I have to play online to get any fights at all, and for the 10 or so lag matches there is occasionaly that one good game. Why must they be so few and far between though T_T.
Must keep trying to get my flatmates to play sf4...
What platform are you playing it on?
James like the blood and tears!!!
I don't see why you have to scare them to such a point that they don't dear to play you, forcing the new blood to run away ":( just my 2 cents :D
Simon is the goddess!!!
I agree with you with regards tot he rounds as I do it myself, but if the player is half decent then I won't only new blood :)
And the lucky man who play Kevin lol, mate first time down there at Yifans and you got to play one of the best giefs around gz:P
I think I was there ahaha...
Lenny, its sad to hear you are so suck bro... I really hope we can play more when you feel better.
Alan I got those sticks modded :D thanks for your help!!!
Quote from: wimpy on July 26, 2009, 11:04:39 PM
I hate falling for lag tactics.... or seeing the jump nice and early, hitting that crouching roundhouse only for nothing to happen, then the rh kicks in and it's far too later and you get a meaty on you.
Problem is, there is no arcade here in Nelson. I have to play online to get any fights at all, and for the 10 or so lag matches there is occasionaly that one good game. Why must they be so few and far between though T_T.
Must keep trying to get my flatmates to play sf4...
Nelson aye? Hmmmm.... You on PSN? I smell a 4 bar connection :) The tourney will have power comp. You doing the mish to Auckland for it. I'm flying up from CHCH. Go the Jetstar!
Quote from: zosla on July 27, 2009, 08:55:10 AM
Lenny, its sad to hear you are so suck bro... I really hope we can play more when you feel better.
Lenny is always
SUCK ;)
edit: James the Devil
Simon teh Goddess
:)
Quote from: zosla on July 27, 2009, 11:04:29 AM
edit: James the Devil
Simon teh Goddess
:)
Wholly agree, except I'm a little worried/puzzled about the 'feminine' nature of Simons obvious divinity. . . :/
Quote from: hydrokinesis on July 27, 2009, 11:36:37 AM
Quote from: zosla on July 27, 2009, 11:04:29 AM
edit: James the Devil
Simon teh Goddess
:)
Wholly agree, except I'm a little worried/puzzled about the 'feminine' nature of Simons obvious divinity. . . :/
ahh yes, but I am sure we will get over it sooner or later :X glad you actually spotted that haha.
Gotta love the babelfish.
Quote from: geneterror on July 21, 2009, 08:55:31 AM
Hey Gene it's Graeme. Do you have a spare stick for PS3, if you do you can come round to my place with Kelvin for a jam if you want. If you don't have a PS3 stick my TE stick should be turning up in the next couple of weeks and then I'll have two. PM me your cell number bro and we'll try and hook something up.
Fuck dude, that would be mint. I know Kelvin would be down. I don't have a PS3 stick...but we could just bring round the X-Box wif our two sticks.....if there's a will there's a way.... ;)
Quote from: hydrokinesis on July 24, 2009, 03:03:34 PM
Quote from: ILL_BILL on July 24, 2009, 01:05:21 PM
I overtrained, and i have now got into the habit of using the focus WAAAAY too much, and throwing my matches out the window.
Case in point: 2 rounds up against simon, then started overusing the focus, and ate like 4 j.hk -> TIGER UPPERCUT and ended up losing.
Fuck i hate getting worse. >_<
Well, it's encouraging to hear you know where you're going wrong. I'm sure you'll be more conscious of it now, and that's really all that it takes to eliminate bad habits from your play.
It's kinda like people and the wake up sho00000ryu0000ken or wake up Boxer headbutts, just forget about the move all together, train yourself NOT to do it, seriously it'll force you to utilize your character in other ways that don't rely on high risk guessing games and stupid gambles. It also does something for people who are at an intermediate level and often miss: Introspective analysis: critiquing your own playstyle strengths and most importantly your oversights and weaknesses.
That's good advice man -I'll take that on board. Gotta let my bud Budafist know....he's always like - Firepunch!!!!...nah to tell the truth he's a bit more selective wif it now....just a bit though.
Quote from: CoffinDrop1 on July 25, 2009, 12:18:54 AM
Just thought I would share my first time experience playing SF4 at Yifans while we are talking about it. Was about 3 weeks ago now. Rocked up during lunchtime, was really looking forward to seeing what the actual arcade game was like. I gotta say when I found it I was thinking to myself that it looked pretty old and the screen was pretty fuzzy too.
It was funny there was an Asian guy wearing glasses playing Zangief and knowing that I had very little time I thought I had to get in a quick game and run. I put my $2 bucks in and pressed start and selected the option to challenge. A young maori fulla came up to me and said "oh you challenging this guy! - he's been on it for ages, I've been waiting to play but I aint gonna challenge him!" I laughed and said "Gotta give it a bash aye."
It was faster than console play on the PS3 which took a bit of getting used to. Actually it was quite a good fight when it came down to it - his Zangief was good and I was thinking man I havent played a Zangief that uses so many of his light attacks. I lost and I popped my head over and said "Good game man" the asian guy nodded his head in acknowlegdement. The Maori fulla said "Close bro!" I laughed cos I got skooled in the last round.
I didnt think much of the arcade set up at Yifans for SF4 and hope that they upgrade it and do it justice. It wasnt till I saw the vids at Xlan that I recognised I played against the man himself. The final Damager!
True, he's ruthless as. I enjoy challenging someone who puts you under pressure...still there ain't many holes in his armour....any advince out there for a 'Ryu - Gief' match up?...apart from the obvious...keep-away....