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Hi guys...

Its Simon Here.. seems you guys like another Sf4 Comp. How about we think something up now.
Basically I have asked my workplace (cafe) on K' Road as well, They agree to have a Comp there. Anytime Within April to June. However we need: TV, Console, and STICK!
Renting the place out can be discuss later. Also, the place can get start going at 9am to 10pm. So we could stay there as long as you want. Food and Drink and smoking Deck are also Available. Therefore please think about it and see what can be done better.

Please gimme SOME FEEDback! Or eventhough Come over and visit the place :D

Address: 453 K' Road, Auckland City.

The nice thing about RvB is that they have all the tvs there - if we wanted to run multiple matches at once, or more than one game at a time, it's much more plausible to do it at RvB than some other place where we have to bring a bunch of tvs.

I'm not rubbishing the idea, just pointing out a downside.

If it's PS3 I know we'd have no problem aquiring decent sticks and I'd be happy to lend my console for the event. I could possibly bring my CRT for marvel too if people want. Depending on the costs we could possibly get some cooler prizes too :3

Personally I think the key to cooler prizes is to get buy in from sponsors.

I reckon we should start looking at putting ogether a promo package and pushing it to potential sponsors.  I used to work in a bar and nknow that there are alot of companies that will turn up and hand out free shit if they think it will be good advertising.

In my personal opinion I think we should just keep the next one low key again.  And show that we can get the numbers.  That way we can go to sponsors and say "We have 2 succesful examples that show we can run a succesful event on our own.  With you as a sponsor we could do even better".  We could look at maybe JB Hifi or EB Games.  Maybe even Mightyape?  They could sponsor prizes as well as give us awesome advertising.

My personal worry is that we aren't gonna get new blood into the tourney.  Some of those new guys that turned up got raped pretty hard, and I hope that doesn't force them to give up.  I know Im not the best player in the scene but I am trying to encourage some of the guys on GPFoums to play me online at night and giving them little tips to up thier game and start thinking about thier street fighter at the next level to get them hooked.  This got me thinking of another idea.  Is there a way we could maybe run like a street fighter blowout session at RVB before the next tourney?  Like a way to get people down there not for a tourney but a kind of meet the pro's and learn kind of thingy?  Get a whole bunch of Rad dudes down there to show peeps how to bring thier game up?

Flux, you have contacts with the guys in Ozhadou dont you?  Any chance they can give us tips on growing the scene like they have?  Cause they have some pretty hype shit going on with ranbats and all.  What about bunkei?  He wanna tell some americans bout how we're trying to turn fuck all into something primo? 

Also lets try and get hooked into Xlan?  Fuckin virtua fighter 5 bullshit needs to get the fuck outta there!  Xlan would get us alot of exposure and some more good advertising.  And dont even get me started on motherfucking Armageddon!  Whoever teh pussies are that are organising that bullshit tourney in welly (no sticks... pads only) should be face raped so that we can step in and run it properly.

hmm... ill post more when I get home.

Leo the business man! /bow
I can possibly get us into the xlan scene and BBS in Auckland at least. I also think the blowout session would be a good idea. I know I used to be discouraged from trying to play fighters with the pros, but all of you guys have been helpful and I'm really starting to step up my game now :3

Edit: Xlan would have to wait for next year as they already have everything organized

Quote from: Smoofikith on March 23, 2009, 04:09:00 PM
Leo the business man! /bow
I can possibly get us into the xlan scene and BBS in Auckland at least. I also think the blowout session would be a good idea. I know I used to be discouraged from trying to play fighters with the pros, but all of you guys have been helpful and I'm really starting to step up my game now :3

Did u say Xlan ? Lol That is something really BIG, they can even sponsor us to go oversea. I don't think they will say "yes" but we can try/beg. ;D

I think that we should run SF4 tourny once every 2 months. It would be great for everyone to meet each other, sharing skills,etc... and everyone has sometime to practice for the next tourny also.

However, I'm seriously think we need 2 consoles next time. I believe everyone has played about 5 games for the whole tournament and we had to wait for more than 5 hours. average 1 hour/game. It would be better if we have 1 extra console for 2 hours to do all the elimination and loser bracket. Then focus on 1 console at the Semi-final  & Final. The tourny will only take about 3-4 hours in the end.

Tourney at cafe sounds fine and dandy. I can provide two sticks, ps3, game and lcd tv. Just be nice to my new stick OK. Mid April would be awesome.

What about a ranbat season at Yifans??? I'm very keen on this

We dont actually have to ask them to send people overseas.  We could just ask them for some space to run a SF4 tourney there.   Im sure it would draw people in, and there might be people interested in watching and joining in between their games.  Even having them advertise might be good.  Have to think it out more cause I guess having a tourney the same day as them could be bad cause it might steal our player base.

I also think that we should hook into OZHADOU and use the rules that they use to run thier tournaments.  That way we can look at sending someone over there into thier tournament.  They might even be able to help hook something up.

I honestly think that 2 months is too soon for another tournament though, as the newer guys wont have as much time to bridge the skill gap.  I reckon they will feel like they are just paying money to turn up and get raped.  Thats why I thought of the blowout session.  It accomplished three things which I think are key to growing and maintaining the community.

1. It is a positive and effective way to share knowledge through out the community, and lets learners learn some new skills.  Some of those new guys had potential provided they shirk their bad habits, and get some fundamentals down.

2. It brings us all together like the tournament did.  Good for the community seeing all the old faces and new and getting to know each other.

3. We use it to build hype for the tourney.  Make some phat anouncements thatll get people jizzing.  David Farriers has sent an email saying he wants to do a peice on us, this would be a pretty cool thing to show that we have going, and we can anounce the upcoming tourney... how fucking badass would that be anouncing a fucking tourney on either live TV or through the fucking newspaper.

Quote from: Lennysaurus on March 23, 2009, 04:01:20 PM
Also lets try and get hooked into Xlan?  Fuckin virtua fighter 5 bullshit needs to get the fuck outta there!  Xlan would get us alot of exposure and some more good advertising.  And dont even get me started on motherfucking Armageddon!  Whoever teh pussies are that are organising that bullshit tourney in welly (no sticks... pads only) should be face raped so that we can step in and run it properly.

Hey man

I can tell you that if you ask the XLAN people to run a comp during XLAN they would be glad to, since there has been other touneys with piss poor turnout that have gone ahead at XLAN before. You guys will have to run it like you did in the weekend and most likely run it on 360 since they have microsoft as a sponsor etc, they could offer microsoft prizes aswell (maybe).

Also the thing about the "training" session before the next comp, im down for it, would be cool to learn from the good players. Coming from the FPS community on 360 as a top player into the fighting game community is pretty hard gotta learn all the basics then work my way up, would be easier with help from you guys.  ;D

Theres a scrubs input on the matter :D Also agree that its BS that VF5 was chosen for WCG this year

Considering that over on gpforums Stimpy specifically asked if we wanted to do a SF4 tourney for xlan, I think chances are high we might be able to do it...

I have a massive migraine atm so can't really think/write in detail, maybe tomorrow I'll be able to cogitate on the matter some. But fuck, don't wait for me, if anyone thinks things could be a go, set things in motion as early as possible! I'll help anything anytime!

I am keen for something at xlan.
Last time when me and alan went, we spent the whole time playing ssf2t (I sorta broke the only stick that worked with mvc2...). We had a number of people watching us and in the end I set up a sign that said "challengers welcome!" and we had a few games with random.
So i'm all for going to xlan for that again :D

I think the cafe is good as long as we can get 3 or 4 tv's setup so we don't have much downtime for players. I think RVB was a great venue and the guys there where really cool letting us setup shit.
That said, If you wan't to organize another tournament I won't really care where it is :D I'm come up for some more practice.
SHORYUKEN!

I started a thread over in the XLAN fourms about a possible SF4 tourney:

http://www.xlan.co.nz/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=63904#63904

There it is, TMdude is one of the main organizers of XLAN, like he said if you want a tourn a XLAN you will have to show interest. So just sign up to the site a post in that thread so he knows there is a good push for a tourn like this. Im sure if we get 15-20 people it would go ahead, keep in mind that it could be a lower turnout since the price for entry to XLAN is $85. Hope it happens!

Quote from: Lennysaurus on March 23, 2009, 06:45:20 PM



I honestly think that 2 months is too soon for another tournament though, as the newer guys wont have as much time to bridge the skill gap.  I reckon they will feel like they are just paying money to turn up and get raped.  Thats why I thought of the blowout session.  It accomplished three things which I think are key to growing and maintaining the community.

1. It is a positive and effective way to share knowledge through out the community, and lets learners learn some new skills.  Some of those new guys had potential provided they shirk their bad habits, and get some fundamentals down.

2. It brings us all together like the tournament did.  Good for the community seeing all the old faces and new and getting to know each other.

3. We use it to build hype for the tourney.  Make some phat anouncements thatll get people jizzing.  David Farriers has sent an email saying he wants to do a peice on us, this would be a pretty cool thing to show that we have going, and we can anounce the upcoming tourney... how fucking badass would that be anouncing a fucking tourney on either live TV or through the fucking newspaper.

I really like the idea of having regular 'Grinder' matches in the weeks leading up to a tourney. Heck, I'd be happy to hold a session every weekend or so at my place in manukau if people were interested.

The only bad thing about using a tourney to promote a scene is that it does push Hardcore vs casual players. I mean, ideally we'd like to have a thriving competitive scene, both casually (At Yifans, TZ, my house etc) and hardcore (like this weekends past tourney). But steps need to be taken by our current players to ensure the scene stays healthy, this means attitiude towards new(er) or less experienced players NEEDS to change.

Personally, I fell there are some of us who blatantly disregard the potential in these players to help build a thriving competitive scene. I have taken measures whenever I've been at Yifans and now online to encourage those willing to take a chance on the game to stick with it, rather than 'Raping' them hard just to get another win under my belt.

So, in short I suggest we promote tourneys with a number of blowout/grinder casual matches leading up to the event. This will supliment our budding casual and newer players and move them to evolve towards the hardcore, and will give our hardcore players opportunities to play in a way that would encourage the higher standard of our competitive scene.

Simon (Crazymobius) and I have long pondered an ongoing (albeit Annual) Evo style tourney, but we have a long way to go until the scene can sustain a event of such magnitiude. I'm happy to do whatever it takes to get the scene to this point, like I said, including hosting casuals regularly to get our player meet-ups happening, and even starting an advice thread somewhere here on particular characters (SFIV) should demand be there for it.

Yeah I am a very strong advocate of getting together on the regular to promote the game.  Particularly getting ou new guys up there.  I dont think we should have it at our houses though for a couple of reasons:

1. Some of these people we wont have meet before, so it might be a bit daunting expecting them to roll to a persons house.  Might be better to have a neutral spot somewhere, particularly one with good parking.

2. Thats your home my brudda.  And we dont know all these peeps either.  Get togethers are all good when we all know each other, but I would feel stink if we did something like a grinder and some dude was casing your pad while we do it.

If we can get a hall or something, and hire it for a few hours this would be a good option.  If someone can look into it, and get some prices maybe we could get everyone to chip in 5 bucks to hire the hall, fuck if it aint too much ill even try and drop a hundy or two on it to get it going.  We could look at doing this monthly?  And maybe using it to run ranbats as well?  Ranbats would b good as it lets us be competitive, but at the same time it doesn't bring the cut-throat/win-or-die attitude that you need for tourney's.

Would be a good chance for the MVC2 guys to run thier ranbats and stuff as well, cause to b honest that game is pretty popular atm as well.

Remember if we want phat prizes we need a phat community.



In the last couple of days I have been hearing from old tekken buddies and other friends that they are interested in getting into it, but dont want to turn up to receive a raping.  I honestly believe that this will be the key to growing the community, is getting these casual guys into the meta game.  The meta game is what will get them hooked.

i reckon rvb would be the best place for the grind sessions....

they got tvs, sf4, 360....just take your own sticks cos im sure they'd be all good with it

its neutral, has ok parking.....and they gots BEERZ

and its like 5 minute walk from white house.......gangsta 8)

but yeah, we do need to get new people into it and not scare them away with mega rape laaaa

maybe sort out a day in the next month or 2 for one of these sessions to see how it goes.....?

and yeah, we needs a better tv for teh marvels....... ???

I noticed that Justin Wong is doing like evaluations of peoples playstyle for like $20. Imo it would be cool to have like a student/mentor thread sorta like SRK and also encourage people to play against our better players at get togethers and have them give them tips based on their individual style. After people had more confidence they'd probably be more keen to play in our tournies and such.

I'm totally all for trying to help out new people with organised training sessions like has been suggested - as you all say, we can't really start doing big events without having more people active.

The trouble I always have is finding people that are actually interested in doing what it takes to get better. Sure you can find thousands of people that 'play' sf4 with their mates and just button mash, but to find people that actually want to start playing even semi-competitively (or converting the casuals into such people) is something I just haven't worked out how to do. If we can somehow find a bunch of these people, then it becomes much easier...

Quote from: fluxcore on March 24, 2009, 09:45:02 AM
I'm totally all for trying to help out new people with organised training sessions like has been suggested - as you all say, we can't really start doing big events without having more people active.

The trouble I always have is finding people that are actually interested in doing what it takes to get better. Sure you can find thousands of people that 'play' sf4 with their mates and just button mash, but to find people that actually want to start playing even semi-competitively (or converting the casuals into such people) is something I just haven't worked out how to do. If we can somehow find a bunch of these people, then it becomes much easier...

TBH flux i think that SFIV is doing alot of that for us itself, soley due to its popularity.  A good example is how many new peeps weve had join the site recently.  Some particularly ood examples are blackstar ninja, William101, and Fearless Newbie.

Maybe RVB is a good spot to do it as AD mentioned?  How much to rent out one of those little bays?  We should get our hands on those tutorials that sirlin did?  I could even make an AVI explaining the basics in SFIV?

Back to one of simons earlier posts, "having it every 2 months" is a bit frequent IMO. Yes, i would love to have more competitions, but if we have a tourney as often as that, it kind of takes away the shine of an annual competition, or one that happens 2-3 times a year.

Maybe have some ranbats, so we can seed the future tournaments. Obviously, the people that need/deserve seeding are the hardcore players who would turn up to these anyway.

Just a thought.

Point taken.

I beleive RvB is  the place for such events. its not a big fee to pay and they are willing to throw in spot prizes and main prize add on's.

Simon Fish's cafe can be an option but will depend on cost and issues like machines and LCD TV etc.

As for casual tutorial games, best is to have it at RvB, of course we need to have a  SET number of people attending since the cost is going towards whoever attends.
Hard but do-able.

What was he cost for the tourney Zosla?

That way we can get an idea and maybe start the ball rolling.

Quote from: zosla on March 24, 2009, 02:21:27 PM
Point taken.

I beleive RvB is  the place for such events. its not a big fee to pay and they are willing to throw in spot prizes and main prize add on's.

Simon Fish's cafe can be an option but will depend on cost and issues like machines and LCD TV etc.

As for casual tutorial games, best is to have it at RvB, of course we need to have a  SET number of people attending since the cost is going towards whoever attends.
Hard but do-able.

I heard another tournament is being organised outside RVB without all the controversial stuff.

Quote from: Lennysaurus on March 24, 2009, 02:53:31 PM
What was he cost for the tourney Zosla?

From what I understand the hire of the space was ~$200.

Quote from: CrazyMobius on March 25, 2009, 03:29:07 PM

Quote from: zosla on March 24, 2009, 02:21:27 PM
Point taken.

I beleive RvB is  the place for such events. its not a big fee to pay and they are willing to throw in spot prizes and main prize add on's.

Simon Fish's cafe can be an option but will depend on cost and issues like machines and LCD TV etc.

As for casual tutorial games, best is to have it at RvB, of course we need to have a  SET number of people attending since the cost is going towards whoever attends.
Hard but do-able.

I heard another tournament is being organised outside RVB without all the controversial stuff.

Really? You have me intrigued. Also, what controversial stuff?

Yeah, not sure if I feel particularly comfortable about this...

I don't get why people wanna make drama when our community is so small  ???

Simon(Crazy Mobius) and whoever else that has some kind of problem with the recent tournament(valid reason or not) please get over it...We don't need beef. Just organise another, better tournament without making silly remarks. A well run tourney speaks volumes...much more so than a forum post.

Oh and I'm not trying to take sides. I'm saying there shouldn't be any sides at all for such trivial stuff. People can run a tournament however they feel:

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=181086

Quote from: ILL_BILL on March 25, 2009, 04:12:59 PM

Really? You have me intrigued. Also, what controversial stuff?

Most likely Hue playing for Simon in the finals, one character only rule and the banning of Seth and Gouken. Three very valid points if you ask me.

I dont know if things like tournys will ever be to EVERYONE'S likeing .
Just show up and let your game do the talking  8)
I just wanna play more SF4 , anytime anyplace , if its in the north Island im there .
BOOYAKASHA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quote from: Toomeke on March 25, 2009, 06:05:28 PM
I don't get why people wanna make drama when our community is so small  ???

Simon(Crazy Mobius) and whoever else that has some kind of problem with the recent tournament(valid reason or not) please get over it...We don't need beef. Just organise another, better tournament without making silly remarks. A well run tourney speaks volumes...much more so than a forum post.

Oh and I'm not trying to take sides. I'm saying there shouldn't be any sides at all for such trivial stuff. People can run a tournament however they feel:

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=181086

Quote from: ILL_BILL on March 25, 2009, 04:12:59 PM

Really? You have me intrigued. Also, what controversial stuff?

Most likely Hue playing for Simon in the finals, one character only rule and the banning of Seth and Gouken. Three very valid points if you ask me.

the only thing is that hue playing for simon thing.....but yeah....nothing major, who cares, we had fun......there was BEERZ

Mr Toomeks is onto it......

Quote from: AD on March 25, 2009, 06:38:45 PM

Quote from: Toomeke on March 25, 2009, 06:05:28 PM
I don't get why people wanna make drama when our community is so small  ???

Simon(Crazy Mobius) and whoever else that has some kind of problem with the recent tournament(valid reason or not) please get over it...We don't need beef. Just organise another, better tournament without making silly remarks. A well run tourney speaks volumes...much more so than a forum post.

Oh and I'm not trying to take sides. I'm saying there shouldn't be any sides at all for such trivial stuff. People can run a tournament however they feel:

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=181086

Quote from: ILL_BILL on March 25, 2009, 04:12:59 PM

Really? You have me intrigued. Also, what controversial stuff?

Most likely Hue playing for Simon in the finals, one character only rule and the banning of Seth and Gouken. Three very valid points if you ask me.

the only thing is that hue playing for simon thing.....but yeah....nothing major, who cares, we had fun......there was BEERZ

Mr Toomeks is onto it......

Hell yeah , any tourney where theres a bar gets a thumbs up from me lol ;D

I agree wholeheartedly with what Toomeke said.

One thing I'd add is:
If your winner of winners left for work before the grand final, what would you do?
Either your tournament has no finals match (pretty shitty if you ask me), or it has one but it's not legit (also shitty).

While I don't necessarily agree that having Hue play was the right decision, it's not like anything REALLY hinged on the result - this was overall supposed to be a fun tourney that introduced people and showed new people how cool the competitive scene can be. I probably would have ummed and ahhed for half an hour before making a decision, whereas Andy just decided and that was that - I think that's admirable.

It would have been great to formally announce that we were at Grand Final match, but I'm assuming that either noone thought of it (I didn't even realise we were at that point yet), or it would mean we'd have to announce what had happened (which would somewhat bum the crowd).

Quote from: Toomeke on March 25, 2009, 06:05:28 PM
I don't get why people wanna make drama when our community is so small  ???

Simon(Crazy Mobius) and whoever else that has some kind of problem with the recent tournament(valid reason or not) please get over it...We don't need beef. Just organise another, better tournament without making silly remarks. A well run tourney speaks volumes...much more so than a forum post.

Oh and I'm not trying to take sides. I'm saying there shouldn't be any sides at all for such trivial stuff. People can run a tournament however they feel:

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=181086

Quote from: ILL_BILL on March 25, 2009, 04:12:59 PM

Really? You have me intrigued. Also, what controversial stuff?

Most likely Hue playing for Simon in the finals, one character only rule and the banning of Seth and Gouken. Three very valid points if you ask me.

I dunno. Maybe I'm just not used to this new style of Street Fighter community. My problem. If it's making people happy I guess that's all that matters.

Quote from: CrazyMobius on March 26, 2009, 07:56:49 AM
I dunno. Maybe I'm just not used to this new style of Street Fighter community. My problem. If it's making people happy I guess that's all that matters.

You mean having one at all? I don't understand what you mean by 'new style'.

If you've got things you want to say, you can always PM me if you don't want to bring it up in public. I'm always interested in hearing what people have to say about how to improve the site or community.

While it's great to have people running tournaments, by no means should it become a divisive affair - NZ is simply too small to cope with that, and it'll ruin what little we have.

Quote from: fluxcore on March 26, 2009, 09:22:29 AM

Quote from: CrazyMobius on March 26, 2009, 07:56:49 AM
I dunno. Maybe I'm just not used to this new style of Street Fighter community. My problem. If it's making people happy I guess that's all that matters.

You mean having one at all? I don't understand what you mean by 'new style'.

If you've got things you want to say, you can always PM me if you don't want to bring it up in public. I'm always interested in hearing what people have to say about how to improve the site or community.

While it's great to have people running tournaments, by no means should it become a divisive affair - NZ is simply too small to cope with that, and it'll ruin what little we have.

Well, speaking for myself on the latest tournament:


I think the tourney aimed to do some things well, obviously getting many newer players to become aware of the competitive scene is a good thing, but a tourney isn't the sort of activity that encourages 'community growth' IMO. A tournament is what you have when you already have an esablished player/hardcore base. At this point, what was the purpose of at least 20 of the players on saturday turning up APART from swelling numbers to make it seem like we have a thriving hardcore/competitive community.

The comments, like the one from Hue about "just pay your money and we don't care if you show up' was just one of the comments, along with the superfluous/unexplained rules (With NO validity given for such) really killed the idea of attending the tourney for me.

I wanted, as a competitive player, some questions answered by the tournament organisers (And the clique) and got "Get OVER it" in reply. I feel as someone who has been envolved in SFIV since it's arrival here, and indeed the whole SF series since 1992, that I deserved the explaination and respect at least from being recognised as someone who has done alot to supplment the communtiy and growth of newer players for many, many years here in Auckland. I wanted a successful tourney, more than anyone.

I challenge anyone to tell me that in the face of the recent tournament, that we could not have done better to some of our oldest and wisest players. The Fact that Simon (Crazymobius) didn't attend speaks volumes about the attitiude I share towards this last particular competitive venture. I would have thought at least his presence would have been sorely missed, as we all know he is among the very top players here in NZ. Same goes for Nathan (Our best Ken player at Yifans) and the "margarita" falla (that tall european guy who plays gief, honda, blanka and dictator). As an aside, I just don't think enough was done to make this a true competitive tournament for our community, as at least four of the 10 or so highly competitive players either decided to not show, or simply didn't even know about it.

Measures must be taken by people who step up to become the figureheads of this community to ensure fairness and to display an attitiude that can build a successful player environment. I have put my hand up time and time again to do this, and will do so again and again. I have a passion for the series and for the competition and community, and I feel that given proper leadership we can establish core base of at least 30 hardcore/competitive players and THEN we can go about having our little tournaments to see who's "best"

No disrespect to anyone please, I'm not picking a fight, jsut voicing my opinion. I know my thoughts are shared by at least a few of the attendees (And non-attendees) from the recent tournament. I would hope that at the very least these issues would be addressed before discussion on details pertaining to the next venture could commence.

:)

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Wow, you guys sound really stuck up.

Sorry, but that's just the impression I get. You're too good to attend a tournament because it's not exactly the ruleset you want? Pretty pathetic imo. I'm half expecting whatever mysterious tourney thing you guys are organising to be an invite-only affair for the 5 people you think are good enough to join.

As for the ruleset, I voiced my opinion several times, but it wasn't my tournament and really it's up to the organizer to do what they want. Andy said "let's try it like this and see how it goes". If you have some problem with that, then that's too bad - I thought it went really quite well for a first crack (excepting Simon having to leave, of course).

You guys can only be as involved as you want to be. You're just as guilty as anyone else for not letting people who might be interested know about a tournament that's coming up.

I could go on and on about how ridiculous it is to take this past tournament as some kind of 'master of all things' Evo-like tournament - as far as I was concerned it was an opportunity to meet some of you guys that could be bothered turning up, and have some good matches under some pressure I wouldn't normally experience, meanwhile introducing some new players to the scene. Even your statement of having 30 hardcore players to have tournaments with is so elitist and uninclusive that it is pretty unhealthy.

So yeah, you guys need to chill out and not be so serious about things right now.

Quote from: fluxcore on March 26, 2009, 10:42:51 AM
Wow, you guys sound really stuck up.

Sorry, but that's just the impression I get. You're too good to attend a tournament because it's not exactly the ruleset you want? Pretty pathetic imo. I'm half expecting whatever mysterious tourney thing you guys are organising to be an invite-only affair for the 5 people you think are good enough to join.

As for the ruleset, I voiced my opinion several times, but it wasn't my tournament and really it's up to the organizer to do what they want. Andy said "let's try it like this and see how it goes". If you have some problem with that, then that's too bad - I thought it went really quite well for a first crack (excepting Simon having to leave, of course).

You guys can only be as involved as you want to be. You're just as guilty as anyone else for not letting people who might be interested know about a tournament that's coming up.

I could go on and on about how ridiculous it is to take this past tournament as some kind of 'master of all things' Evo-like tournament - as far as I was concerned it was an opportunity to meet some of you guys that could be bothered turning up, and have some good matches under some pressure I wouldn't normally experience, meanwhile introducing some new players to the scene. Even your statement of having 30 hardcore players to have tournaments with is so elitist and uninclusive that it is pretty unhealthy.

So yeah, you guys need to chill out and not be so serious about things right now.

Dude, please.

No one said anything about being too good to attend, like I said it wasn't just the rules for me, it was the ATTITIUDE. As you'll see from my posts here, I was encouraging of others who chose to attend. I don't know where you're getting this whole I'm too good to go, more like, it's not right for me

Fair enough for Andy to choose whatever rules. I thought I had a right to ask questions about them. Sorry if this wasn't the case, Obviously.

And as for the comment of having 30 hardcore/competitive players, stop being so obtuse. It wasn't elitist at all and you know it, you know as well as I do that having a tournament of 30 compeitive players is going to be a damn sight better than having a tournament where you have 10 competitve players and 20 other guys just to pay their 10 bucks and swell the prize money. Right?

Alan, I mean WTF. . . I respect you dude, and I just said I wasn't trying to pick a fight, just dropping an opinion brother.
This is the thread for discussion on the tournament isn't it. Next time if you don't want people to actually discuss actual concerns we should also include "NO serious discussion Pls k" lol in the title. 

Sorry for Rant again.

Moving Forward...

I propose that on Saturday the 25th of April we hold a "Grind Session" at RVB.

It would be a 4 hour session, utilizing one of the small bays of 4 TV's as well as the large plasma.

The basic gist of it being that we get EVERYONE down there playing, and those of us that have been around a while help the new guys out.  As well as us being able to throw down against each other first.

I'd suggest that we have one experienced player taking shifts on each of the pods offering advice to the new players.

I also suggest that we have the large plasma reserved for "Expert matches" and we can stand around and explain to the newbies what the guys are doing onscreen.  We'll record those of course.

Maybe even issue out nametag stickers in different colours.  One colour for OG's and another for those keen to learn.

Measures of success for the event:
•   We get at least 8 new members to the site
•   We announce a date for our next tourney to the people that are there
•   We get at least 30 people down there for the event

Questions I have:
•   How much will RVB expect us to pay for an event like this?  Do we charge peeps?  Maybe just put out a bucket for donations?
•   Do we have enough hardware (consoles, copies of SFIV, joysticks) to make this happen?
•   How can we promote the site through these events better?  Business cards with the site logo and url on it?  Sexy naked chicks with the url on their buttcheeks?

I reckon that this could go well.  No tourney pressure, loads of good games.  And a goo way to announce a tourney live and in person.  And as I mentioned earlier we could even get David Farrier to attend it.  No drama could come of this... we can all just turn up and help swell the community.

Quote from: Lennysaurus on March 26, 2009, 11:06:47 AM
Moving Forward...

I propose that on Saturday the 25th of April we hold a "Grind Session" at RVB.

It would be a 4 hour session, utilizing one of the small bays of 4 TV's as well as the large plasma.

The basic gist of it being that we get EVERYONE down there playing, and those of us that have been around a while help the new guys out.  As well as us being able to throw down against each other first.

I'd suggest that we have one experienced player taking shifts on each of the pods offering advice to the new players.

I also suggest that we have the large plasma reserved for "Expert matches" and we can stand around and explain to the newbies what the guys are doing onscreen.  We'll record those of course.

Maybe even issue out nametag stickers in different colours.  One colour for OG's and another for those keen to learn.

Measures of success for the event:
•   We get at least 8 new members to the site
•   We announce a date for our next tourney to the people that are there
•   We get at least 30 people down there for the event

Questions I have:
•   How much will RVB expect us to pay for an event like this?  Do we charge peeps?  Maybe just put out a bucket for donations?
•   Do we have enough hardware (consoles, copies of SFIV, joysticks) to make this happen?
•   How can we promote the site through these events better?  Business cards with the site logo and url on it?  Sexy naked chicks with the url on their buttcheeks?

I reckon that this could go well.  No tourney pressure, loads of good games.  And a goo way to announce a tourney live and in person.  And as I mentioned earlier we could even get David Farrier to attend it.  No drama could come of this... we can all just turn up and help swell the community.

Agree.

More than happy ot help in any way, including the following:

A good friend of mine is responsible for the all of the gaming orgainsation @ the Armageddon show in Welly, and also owns NZgamer.co.nz. I could arrange advertising through him on their website (Which gets over 2000 hits a day at least) for little or no $$$. 

I also have connections to gameplayer.co.nz and Nz gameplayer magazine. both of which could push the event for us for a little traffic towards thier interests.

Cool? Just let me know when to get started.

Fuck you guys replying before me. Anyway, all valid points by Hydro, but i feel i should mention this one.

QuoteI think the tourney aimed to do some things well, obviously getting many newer players to become aware of the competitive scene is a good thing, but a tourney isn't the sort of activity that encourages 'community growth' IMO. A tournament is what you have when you already have an esablished player/hardcore base. At this point, what was the purpose of at least 20 of the players on saturday turning up APART from swelling numbers to make it seem like we have a thriving hardcore/competitive community.

I respectuflly disagree, to an extent.

I understand that the way a lot of people think of a tournament is PURELY competitive, (ie. non-promotional, pro-players only) which, given the right circumstances, is fine. I don't believe NZ reflects the circumstances needed to be true. (Opinion obviously) As for the 20+ terrible people who were there to 'pad' the numbers, (and God knows i was/am one of them, if not the WORST one) Look at the rugby world cup. Is Samoa ever going to win? Not likely (despite my undying support) but theyre still there. Obviously, like in our RVB tourney, this bodes the question "Why?" Samoa keep coming back because, like all decent people, a loss only makes them want to get better. Samoa come back every few years with new tricks, and a more polished side. As do a lot of the minor teams. Samoa vs tonga/argentina etc. are always entertaining, because something decent always happens that youre not expecting. (Hell, ive even seen some quality play come from fucking japan >_>)

Compare this to the RVB tourney. Good players had good competition with good players, and not so good players had good competition with others at their level. Good competition was had all around by everyone. (Probably why it was so successful and well-recieved) Not only that, a lot of us wouldve come out thinking "Wow im going to learn to play *character* like that guy", or "That combo was awesome, ima practice that shit dawg." (no laughing at these retarded quotes btw. theyre only here to prove a point) A lot of the people who arguably had no point being there will come out of it considerably better off.

I went into that tourney with 0 player vs player experience with El Fuerte, and didn't do well at all. All this did was motivate me to improve for the next tourney, which im sure is the same for a lot of the others that got ousted early. Statistically this won't be true for all of them, but for most, i would guess that this is pretty accurate.

I believe that an open public tournament doesn't add "community growth" ONLY if there is an established scene in the first place. (As hardcore players in an established community would see the competition as trivial, and understandably so.) But when the community does not exist, or is particularly small (as is the case in NZ) then those that DONT have professional experience would gain a bit of insight, and improve because of it.

There is even numerical proof that the tournament has actively increased the size/intrest of the community. Look at how many new forum members there have been since the tournament was announced. Maybe not concrete proof, but its hardly ignorable. No, a lot of them won't be at 'pro' level yet, but ill bet David's mother that they will be a hell of a lot better the next time around.

The tournament HAS increased awareness, and the size of the player base already. As the community grows, the increase in size will get exponentially smaller, to the point where open tourneys may potentially not become the best medium to use to promote growth. But its not even close to being at that point yet. And on the flip side, the skill level of the existing community will get exponentially greater, meaning the quality of future tournaments will be a hell of a lot better. The tournament did its promotional job, and did it pretty well.

Quote from: hydrokinesis on March 26, 2009, 10:56:43 AM
No one said anything about being too good to attend, like I said it wasn't just the rules for me, it was the ATTITIUDE. As you'll see from my posts here, I was encouraging of others who chose to attend. I don't know where you're getting this whole I'm too good to go, more like, it's not right for me

The only attitude I remember was when people started saying they weren't coming because of whatever reason, which I thought was pretty weak, and I think I said so.

QuoteFair enough for Andy to choose whatever rules. I thought I had a right to ask questions about them. Sorry if this wasn't the case, Obviously.

Well, he explained his reasons to my satisfaction. I guess I didn't ask questions, just said what I thought rules should be, but same diff.

QuoteAnd as for the comment of having 30 hardcore/competitive players, stop being so obtuse. It wasn't elitist at all and you know it, you know as well as I do that having a tournament of 30 compeitive players is going to be a damn sight better than having a tournament where you have 10 competitve players and 20 other guys just to pay their 10 bucks and swell the prize money. Right?

Depends entirely what you hope to gain from the tourney. I already explained what I thought this past tourney was about. If you want a tourney where only the best players turn up, then that wasn't it - however I still think that's a stupid reason for 'boycotting' it. I met a bunch of cool people there, you guys obviously not included - and I think our community is stronger for it.

QuoteAlan, I mean WTF. . . I respect you dude, and I just said I wasn't trying to pick a fight, just dropping an opinion brother.
This is the thread for discussion on the tournament isn't it. Next time if you don't want people to actually discuss actual concerns we should also include "NO serious discussion Pls k" lol in the title.

Hey, you're putting your side of the story across, and I'm responding with mine - the discussion itself is serious, but I think they way you're reading into the issue itself is TOO serious at the moment.
As you say yourself, this isn't the correct time in the community to have some hardout 'best of the best' style tournament - we don't have enough hardcore players. Hence this past tournament which was to try to spark up interest in people that might BECOME interested enough. I can understand that you wouldn't find such a tournament as exciting or whatever as one with only hardout people, but as I keep saying, I don't think that's a good reason to skip it - and that's where the elitist feeling comes from.
And if you don't think a tournament like that actually helps interest new players, then in my mind that's been disproven already.

Quote from: ILL_BILL on March 26, 2009, 11:22:23 AM
A bunch of excellent points which is what I was getting at

This.

Dammit. Everyone already has the point i was trying to make with that longass post. >_<

Additionally

QuoteHow can we promote the site through these events better?  Business cards with the site logo and url on it?  Sexy naked chicks with the url on their buttcheeks?

Ill get richards mum on this asap.

Hmmmmm.........where should i start....no offence..
Everyone have their point of view. It is not easy to set a tournament like this. Like a place that where everyone meet up . It was not 100% set up . But it did well overrall.

As u say example : The comments, like the one from Hue about "just pay your money and we don't care if you show up' was just one of the comments, along with the superfluous/unexplained rules (With NO validity given for such) really killed the idea of attending the tourney for me. What if nobody come? what point of setting up the tourney then no one show up. I show up even i have to work till 4pm .Make myself here to feel the crowd , how many people will show up .

The whole point is to make things works. fuk i donno how to put in words. What is happened is already happened just look forward for another new Tournament . Any error b4 the tourney voice up and comment.

I feel Proud for NZ 2 have a tourney like this.

Quote from: Lennysaurus on March 26, 2009, 11:06:47 AM
Questions I have:
•   How much will RVB expect us to pay for an event like this?  Do we charge peeps?  Maybe just put out a bucket for donations?
•   Do we have enough hardware (consoles, copies of SFIV, joysticks) to make this happen?
•   How can we promote the site through these events better?  Business cards with the site logo and url on it?  Sexy naked chicks with the url on their buttcheeks?

You'd have to ask RvB, I don't think there was discussion about the little booth things.
Presumably charge the trainees a nominal fee just to make sure they are coming to learn and not just get some free games. If that doesn't cover it, maybe a few of us will be willing to chip in.
I guess we'll have our TE sticks by then? :D
I actually had some business cards made in Photoshop a while back, but didn't print any for this past tournament due to time and lack of a finalised iMagneto-logo :P

QuoteI reckon that this could go well.  No tourney pressure, loads of good games.  And a goo way to announce a tourney live and in person.  And as I mentioned earlier we could even get David Farrier to attend it.  No drama could come of this... we can all just turn up and help swell the community.

Can't see much wrong with that.

Quote from: Lennysaurus on March 26, 2009, 11:06:47 AM
Moving Forward...

I propose that on Saturday the 25th of April we hold a "Grind Session" at RVB.

It would be a 4 hour session, utilizing one of the small bays of 4 TV's as well as the large plasma.

The basic gist of it being that we get EVERYONE down there playing, and those of us that have been around a while help the new guys out.  As well as us being able to throw down against each other first.

I'd suggest that we have one experienced player taking shifts on each of the pods offering advice to the new players.

I also suggest that we have the large plasma reserved for "Expert matches" and we can stand around and explain to the newbies what the guys are doing onscreen.  We'll record those of course.

Maybe even issue out nametag stickers in different colours.  One colour for OG's and another for those keen to learn.

Measures of success for the event:
•   We get at least 8 new members to the site
•   We announce a date for our next tourney to the people that are there
•   We get at least 30 people down there for the event

Questions I have:
•   How much will RVB expect us to pay for an event like this?  Do we charge peeps?  Maybe just put out a bucket for donations?
•   Do we have enough hardware (consoles, copies of SFIV, joysticks) to make this happen?
•   How can we promote the site through these events better?  Business cards with the site logo and url on it?  Sexy naked chicks with the url on their buttcheeks?

I reckon that this could go well.  No tourney pressure, loads of good games.  And a goo way to announce a tourney live and in person.  And as I mentioned earlier we could even get David Farrier to attend it.  No drama could come of this... we can all just turn up and help swell the community.

this wot im talking about

Quote from: gunsmoke on March 26, 2009, 11:32:53 AM
What if nobody come? what point of setting up the tourney then no one show up. I show up even i have to work till 4pm .Make myself here to feel the crowd , how many people will show up .

The whole point is to make things works. fuk i donno how to put in words. What is happened is already happened just look forward for another new Tournament . Any error b4 the tourney voice up and comment.

I feel Proud for NZ 2 have a tourney like this.

Yep, it was great to see you & Hiroshi turn up just to say hello and see how things were going - a few people had left by then too, and you saw how it was, pretty good. It's people WANTING to be involved that made me happy, and possibly why I'm kind of annoyed at the 'don't want to come' thing, because it's just the opposite.

I too was proud of how it went, even though by far the bulk of it was Andy's work (cheers Toomeke btw for laptop and whatnot, don't think I thanked you yet!)

Quote from: ILL_BILL on March 26, 2009, 11:28:34 AM
Dammit. Everyone already has the point i was trying to make with that longass post. >_<

Additionally

QuoteHow can we promote the site through these events better?  Business cards with the site logo and url on it?  Sexy naked chicks with the url on their buttcheeks?

Ill get richards mum on this asap.

Who is Richards mum and what will she be doing?

Zosla since you already have a relationship with RVB are you able to query them re the costs?

Once the costs are confirmed and whatnot, im gonna head round to the various gaming forums and engage spam mode!

It would be cool to chuck Mike's logo on a TE stick template or something and have it on some of the sticks that the trainees are on. But yeah, it was our first tourney and obviously things need to be improved. Also it would be cool to have a sticky or something with the names of our better players gamertags ect just so people have a good idea of who to play with/ask questions

Quote from: Smoofikith on March 26, 2009, 11:43:57 AM
It would be cool to chuck Mike's logo on a TE stick template or something and have it on some of the sticks that the trainees are on. But yeah, it was our first tourney and obviously things need to be improved. Also it would be cool to have a sticky or something with the names of our better players gamertags ect just so people have a good idea of who to play with/ask questions

Yeah man, totally - I've already got a TE stick template which is almost finished, has a Capcom, SFIV logo, my name, and one of those NZism logos would be sweet on it - if we can decide on how to finish it! :D

Quote from: Lennysaurus on March 26, 2009, 11:40:45 AM

Quote from: ILL_BILL on March 26, 2009, 11:28:34 AM
Dammit. Everyone already has the point i was trying to make with that longass post. >_<

Additionally

QuoteHow can we promote the site through these events better?  Business cards with the site logo and url on it?  Sexy naked chicks with the url on their buttcheeks?

Ill get richards mum on this asap.

Who is Richards mum and what will she be doing?

Lol funny one is samuraiblack n birry wong boyfriend ...always spam each other... ::) ::) ::)

Quote from: fluxcore on March 26, 2009, 11:55:43 AM

Quote from: Smoofikith on March 26, 2009, 11:43:57 AM
It would be cool to chuck Mike's logo on a TE stick template or something and have it on some of the sticks that the trainees are on. But yeah, it was our first tourney and obviously things need to be improved. Also it would be cool to have a sticky or something with the names of our better players gamertags ect just so people have a good idea of who to play with/ask questions

Yeah man, totally - I've already got a TE stick template which is almost finished, has a Capcom, SFIV logo, my name, and one of those NZism logos would be sweet on it - if we can decide on how to finish it! :D

and T-shirt pls size M for me in black yaya..... ::) ::) ::)

I also think we need to take shifts singing karaoke indestructible throughout our events. I vote Birry Wong goes first

Quote from: Smoofikith on March 26, 2009, 01:09:18 PM
I also think we need to take shifts singing karaoke indestructible throughout our events. I vote Birry Wong goes first

Sorry. I only do Johnny Cash and Britney. You should here my "Ooops i walked the line in a toxic ring of fire" remix. That shit will BLOW YOUR MIND.

Quote from: fluxcore on March 26, 2009, 09:22:29 AM

Quote from: CrazyMobius on March 26, 2009, 07:56:49 AM
I dunno. Maybe I'm just not used to this new style of Street Fighter community. My problem. If it's making people happy I guess that's all that matters.

You mean having one at all? I don't understand what you mean by 'new style'.

If you've got things you want to say, you can always PM me if you don't want to bring it up in public. I'm always interested in hearing what people have to say about how to improve the site or community.

While it's great to have people running tournaments, by no means should it become a divisive affair - NZ is simply too small to cope with that, and it'll ruin what little we have.

Since when did people all of a sudden start caring about the NZ Street Fighter community? Where was everyone 2 years ago?

Quote from: CrazyMobius on March 26, 2009, 03:29:41 PM

Quote from: fluxcore on March 26, 2009, 09:22:29 AM

Quote from: CrazyMobius on March 26, 2009, 07:56:49 AM
I dunno. Maybe I'm just not used to this new style of Street Fighter community. My problem. If it's making people happy I guess that's all that matters.

You mean having one at all? I don't understand what you mean by 'new style'.

If you've got things you want to say, you can always PM me if you don't want to bring it up in public. I'm always interested in hearing what people have to say about how to improve the site or community.

While it's great to have people running tournaments, by no means should it become a divisive affair - NZ is simply too small to cope with that, and it'll ruin what little we have.

Since when did people all of a sudden start caring about the NZ Street Fighter community? Where was everyone 2 years ago?

i dont know about you guys buttttt, i was playing marvel ::)

Quote from: CrazyMobius on March 26, 2009, 03:29:41 PM
Since when did people all of a sudden start caring about the NZ Street Fighter community? Where was everyone 2 years ago?

I was right here, trying to find people to get together.

What kind of comment is that, anyway?

Are you surprised that the first new Street Fighter in 9 years is getting people interested in Street Fighter again?

::)

lets set some goals and action points.  By Monday we need to have the following information:

1.   The cost of the 4 hour event from RVB (Zosla)
2.   Confirmation of the NZism logo ready for us to use (iMagneto)
3.   Confirmation of any prices for us to make some business cards with the sites url etc on it (ill_bill)
4.      The cost of having a logo printed onto T-shirts and Hoodies (Lenny)
5.      Could someone make a draft poster fo the event much like the poster that was done for the tourney? (Any takers?)

Furthermore, can we just move on please guys?  Whats done is done.  I do not have a time machine that I can use to go into the past and fix shit, and nor do you.  Lets focus on NZisms next event.

If we get this sort

Quote from: Lennysaurus on March 26, 2009, 03:50:07 PM
3.   Confirmation of any prices for us to make some business cards with the sites url etc on it (ill_bill)
4.      The cost of having a logo printed onto T-shirts and Hoodies (Lenny)

Furthermore, can we just move on please guys?  Whats done is done.  I do not have a time machine that I can use to go into the past and fix shit, and nor do you.  Lets focus on NZisms next event.

My girlfriend works at a printshop so I should be able to get a good deal on the business cards.

I still think the main problem with the t-shirts/hoodies is the colour - at least for a whitey like me a white hoody is pretty horrible, but I guess you can do whatever you want really.

As for moving on, I really just want to understand why these guys felt so strongly about whatever it is (which I'm still not sure about) that they didn't want to turn up to an event for a game they are passionate about. If they are only going to get involved in things which they completely control, then sorry, because I really am not interested in catering to them and them only, no matter how oldschool or top-player they are.

I know Hydrokinesis just had some RL things to do at the time

Quote from: CrazyMobius on March 26, 2009, 03:29:41 PMSince when did people all of a sudden start caring about the NZ Street Fighter community? Where was everyone 2 years ago?

Playing Street Fighter.
I know I only just picked up Third Strike about two years ago :) Trying to get more of my friends/classmates into Street Fighter. Talking to you while you wowed me with you Ghouls 'n Ghosts steez :)

I understand your points about the Tournament but I took the day for what it was:
The chance to catch up with some good cunts. Success!
Make some new friends that share one of my main interests. Success!
Play some Street Fighter. Success!
Get a few new people into Street Fighter. Success! I have 3 people I know now interested in catching up at my place to learn some more stuff!

All in all I had a really good day, no need to take it to seriously. I want more!
I was looking forward to catching up with you Simon. Me and Steven were both very surprised you weren't there.
I know your issues with the tournament etc but I don't want the Street Fighter scene (what little scene we have) to turn into the backstabbing bitchfest that the NZ Hardcore/Punk scene is sometimes.
I just want to play games and hang out with some good peeps :)

I REALLY WANT A HOODIE, but only if I can have XXXL (no jokes). edit: I would also prefer black or grey, only because I'm a messy cunt and would get oil stains on a white one in no time :'(

Quote from: Smoofikith on March 26, 2009, 04:09:12 PM
I know Hydrokinesis just had some RL things to do at the time

That's fine, however the things he's saying here go deeper than that... "4 of the most competitive players didn't want to come" etc.

Woot so we have an in on the business cards.  Lemme know if you need a hand with the cost of them, i dont mind chipping in.

Geneterror is on the button i reckon.  I disagreed with tstuff that happened, but at the end of the day the good stuff that came out far outweighed the stuff that I had a bitch about.

Lets do this for Lassie goddamnit!

We need to go to that buffet for lunch instead man... FUCK THAT SHIT UP

But yeah, I had a lot of fun with everyone there and the shit at dinner and yifans was cool too. I saw it as more of a casual meet up sort of thing than a real o shi tournament

Quote from: Lennysaurus on March 26, 2009, 03:50:07 PM
5. Could someone make a draft poster fo the event much like the poster that was

If someone can supply me an NZism in hi-res I can give it a go. Both my fiance and I are full time graphic designers. I can't make any promises though I've been pretty busy lately so if someone else wants to give it a crack then go for it.
My best friend also works at a print place so I might be able to get some colour flyers done up here. It would be good to be able to send some out to you guys in the 'burbs to put a few up rather than just the one poster outside RvB.
I can put some in my friends Tattoo studio on K' Rd, another good place would be Real Groovy. It would be good to have some A6 ones to leave at RvB that people can take with them leading up to the tourney.

Anything I can do to help 8)

Quote from: geneterror on March 26, 2009, 04:28:50 PM
If someone can supply me an NZism in hi-res I can give it a go. Both my fiance and I are full time graphic designers. I can't make any promises though I've been pretty busy lately so if someone else wants to give it a crack then go for it.
My best friend also works at a print place so I might be able to get some colour flyers done up here. It would be good to be able to send some out to you guys in the 'burbs to put a few up rather than just the one poster outside RvB.
I can put some in my friends Tattoo studio on K' Rd, another good place would be Real Groovy. It would be good to have some A6 ones to leave at RvB that people can take with them leading up to the tourney.

Sounds awesome. Yeah, posters of various sizes would be useful, guess it's up to Mike to provide the logo then really.
You can email me the raw files if/when you finish it then I can put them up on the site so whoever wants to can print off promo stuff whenever they want, and then I can also print some out and distribute them around the 'tron (ooh, ahh)

MALO THE TRON ;D

Hey Lenny I reckon the grind session is a great idea.

One thing. Can we increase the grind? 4 hours of street fighter goes by pretty damn fast especially when your playing for the majority of the time. 6 hours?

If you get in contact with RVB can you ask them if the ps3 consoles are available for use??? I can bring my sticks and game if so.

Quote from: Toomeke on March 26, 2009, 06:04:41 PM
Hey Lenny I reckon the grind session is a great idea.

One thing. Can we increase the grind? 4 hours of street fighter goes by pretty damn fast especially when your playing for the majority of the time. 6 hours?

If you get in contact with RVB can you ask them if the ps3 consoles are available for use??? I can bring my sticks and game if so.

Agree.

Yeah I had my two boys to look after at the time of the last tourney. . . otherwise I would have been there in a full-on specator/judging/bum-boy (No HOMO) capacity.

I can bring my Hori stick for useage as if PS3 are up and running. And 6 hours sounds much better, I'm arranging to have my kids looked after that day, so I better make the most of all the hours we can get lol!

I promise to bring my smiley face not my sad one too: Prepare for hi-def Viper action as well ;)

wow, sorry about the late reply.. been really busy this week with work and stuff. Also having to read 5 pages here makes it even harder but i don't want to miss any action lawl.

anyways back to the points:
RvB: I will contact them for teh venue and ps3 etc.

Tournament issues we had, with all teh comments i read from this thread I find it quiet funny tbh.
Tournament rules are set to take control and it has done its purpose, not turning up is an experience you have missed. The two rules that has caused these arguments are:

1: no Seth/Gouken - Reason: I don't want to go into detail research for both characters, this is a first time tournament and i just took the rules from Japan tournaments. Also I did not have that much time to think over such minor issues about two characters being banned because if I had the time I would go out and advertise the tournament more and get more people involve.

2: One character rule: this is fairly simple, No time wasting to counter pick your opponents char, choose one and stick with it, the one you are most competent with. We didn't have enough time for this tournament, not to mention if we waste more time in other areas.

This was my first time organizing a tournament and it wasn't easy. It is hard to make things to suite everyone.
Tournaments is about sharing skills and knowledge and learning from your peers. It ain't always about having only the best players competing because if that is the case we won't get any new players who has potentials to grow. Personally I have been a competitive gamer in previous years and all tournaments I have competed in are to encourage more new players and building the community for them, not to mention for the better players to have a good time.

hope i didn't miss anything :)

Quote from: zosla on March 26, 2009, 07:41:09 PM
wow, sorry about the late reply.. been really busy this week with work and stuff. Also having to read 5 pages here makes it even harder but i don't want to miss any action lawl.

anyways back to the points:
RvB: I will contact them for teh venue and ps3 etc.

Tournament issues we had, with all teh comments i read from this thread I find it quiet funny tbh.
Tournament rules are set to take control and it has done its purpose, not turning up is an experience you have missed. The two rules that has caused these arguments are:

1: no Seth/Gouken - Reason: I don't want to go into detail research for both characters, this is a first time tournament and i just took the rules from Japan tournaments. Also I did not have that much time to think over such minor issues about two characters being banned because if I had the time I would go out and advertise the tournament more and get more people involve.

2: One character rule: this is fairly simple, No time wasting to counter pick your opponents char, choose one and stick with it, the one you are most competent with. We didn't have enough time for this tournament, not to mention if we waste more time in other areas.

This was my first time organizing a tournament and it wasn't easy. It is hard to make things to suite everyone.
Tournaments is about sharing skills and knowledge and learning from your peers. It ain't always about having only the best players competing because if that is the case we won't get any new players who has potentials to grow. Personally I have been a competitive gamer in previous years and all tournaments I have competed in are to encourage more new players and building the community for them, not to mention for the better players to have a good time.

hope i didn't miss anything :)

good one ya

tbh

the rules didnt really bother me....

THEY HAD TEH BEERZ

what part of that cant anyone understand :P

again andy again, do again...u must make more

aww the only thing, but its nothing big, just the hue playing for simon thing......but thats just minor kinda, ya know oh well kind thing

TEH BEERZ

Oh yes that Hue playing for Simon thing.

Reason was quiet simple, it was the finals.
It's quiet sad to have a tournament and no finals, but I restricted him to play Abel which he had no idea how to play. It was practically for show and wouldn't of affected the outcome. This was not though of in the first place and decisions needed to be made with not much time left. So my decision was to have a FINAL rather than not.

It was a sudden and hard decision, but something had to be done.

Quote from: geneterror on March 26, 2009, 04:09:48 PM

All in all I had a really good day, no need to take it to seriously. I want more!
I was looking forward to catching up with you Simon. Me and Steven were both very surprised you weren't there.
I know your issues with the tournament etc but I don't want the Street Fighter scene (what little scene we have) to turn into the backstabbing bitchfest that the NZ Hardcore/Punk scene is sometimes.
I just want to play games and hang out with some good peeps :)

Yeah I felt a bit stink that I couldn't catch up with you and Steven and Leo on that day. Especially don't get much of a chance these days. Remember CVS2? Good times...

Also personally I didn't think I was good enough yet for my own standards to enter the tourney. Coming off of 10 years of playing Third Strike it's just a bit odd that suddenly there's a whole new set of moves to master. And the games so young. I really want to step my game up a LOT more before I enter any future tournament.

Quote from: CrazyMobius on March 26, 2009, 11:10:39 PM

Quote from: geneterror on March 26, 2009, 04:09:48 PM

All in all I had a really good day, no need to take it to seriously. I want more!
I was looking forward to catching up with you Simon. Me and Steven were both very surprised you weren't there.
I know your issues with the tournament etc but I don't want the Street Fighter scene (what little scene we have) to turn into the backstabbing bitchfest that the NZ Hardcore/Punk scene is sometimes.
I just want to play games and hang out with some good peeps :)

Yeah I felt a bit stink that I couldn't catch up with you and Steven and Leo on that day. Especially don't get much of a chance these days. Remember CVS2? Good times...

Also personally I didn't think I was good enough yet for my own standards to enter the tourney. Coming off of 10 years of playing Third Strike it's just a bit odd that suddenly there's a whole new set of moves to master. And the games so young. I really want to step my game up a LOT more before I enter any future tournament.

Who r u lol?

Back in days ya CVS2 at Parnell casual night every weekends....miss those days... :P :P :P

Quote from: gunsmoke on March 26, 2009, 11:17:34 PM


Back in days ya CVS2 at Parnell casual night every weekends....miss those days... :P :P :P

Was that at Ben's? Went there once with Steven. CVS2 was pretty big when I think back. Had a lot of regulars. Good scene no bitching.

I had no idea it was the last match.
Hence me asking "Was that it?"

Quote from: CrazyMobius on March 27, 2009, 07:43:54 AM

Quote from: gunsmoke on March 26, 2009, 11:17:34 PM


Back in days ya CVS2 at Parnell casual night every weekends....miss those days... :P :P :P

Was that at Ben's? Went there once with Steven. CVS2 was pretty big when I think back. Had a lot of regulars. Good scene no bitching.

yes is me Ben.....is been a long time..Yifan took away CVS2...
End up i finish work then  the crew come with 2 tv's lol... ;D ;D ;D

Quote from: zosla on March 26, 2009, 10:42:59 PM
Oh yes that Hue playing for Simon thing.

Reason was quiet simple, it was the finals.
It's quiet sad to have a tournament and no finals, but I restricted him to play Abel which he had no idea how to play. It was practically for show and wouldn't of affected the outcome. This was not though of in the first place and decisions needed to be made with not much time left. So my decision was to have a FINAL rather than not.

It was a sudden and hard decision, but something had to be done.

Id just like to point out the hue learned Abel before simon did. Simon just got better with him.

Quote from: ILL_BILL on March 27, 2009, 10:19:45 AM

Quote from: zosla on March 26, 2009, 10:42:59 PM
Oh yes that Hue playing for Simon thing.

Reason was quiet simple, it was the finals.
It's quiet sad to have a tournament and no finals, but I restricted him to play Abel which he had no idea how to play. It was practically for show and wouldn't of affected the outcome. This was not though of in the first place and decisions needed to be made with not much time left. So my decision was to have a FINAL rather than not.

It was a sudden and hard decision, but something had to be done.

Id just like to point out the hue learned Abel before simon did. Simon just got better with him.

Anyway. I guess they've already said it wasn't serious. So I guess it's silly to expect serious rules. The sooner this is put behind the community the better. Let's just move on to better things.

Quote from: CrazyMobius on March 27, 2009, 10:30:54 AM

Quote from: ILL_BILL on March 27, 2009, 10:19:45 AM

Quote from: zosla on March 26, 2009, 10:42:59 PM
Oh yes that Hue playing for Simon thing.

Reason was quiet simple, it was the finals.
It's quiet sad to have a tournament and no finals, but I restricted him to play Abel which he had no idea how to play. It was practically for show and wouldn't of affected the outcome. This was not though of in the first place and decisions needed to be made with not much time left. So my decision was to have a FINAL rather than not.

It was a sudden and hard decision, but something had to be done.

Id just like to point out the hue learned Abel before simon did. Simon just got better with him.

Anyway. I guess they've already said it wasn't serious. So I guess it's silly to expect serious rules. The sooner this is put behind the community the better. Let's just move on to better things.

I think we're all aware of this. The tournament was essentially promotional, and it did its job. We now have to set our sights on the next one, and making it better. (Pyrotechnics/strippers etc.)

STRIPPERS!

I like the idea of having strippers.. I was really disappointed to not see any hot chicks on the day.

I can bring my 8 year old cousin next time :3
All the girls I told to come were like "ewwww wont there be smelly fat guys down there?" =(

Quote from: Gino on March 27, 2009, 08:37:33 AM
I had no idea it was the last match.
Hence me asking "Was that it?"

lollolol too funny Gino!  ;D

Re: RVB grinder sessions, what sort of format were we thinking? Round robin? Swiss? Or just line up and play when it's your turn. . . :) What were the orginal thoughts on the day Leo?

Simon(Crazymobius): Are you going to this bro? 

Do you think it would be a good idea to get something going at Auckland armageddon?

Quote from: Smoofikith on March 27, 2009, 11:54:25 AM
Do you think it would be a good idea to get something going at Auckland armageddon?

I wouldn't be surprised at all if a similar event to the ones occurring in Wellington/Christchurch will be happening.

Quote from: Smoofikith on March 27, 2009, 11:36:23 AM
I can bring my 8 year old cousin next time :3
All the girls I told to come were like "ewwww wont there be smelly fat guys down there?" =(

Fuck you im not fat.

Quote from: Smoofikith on March 27, 2009, 11:54:25 AM
Do you think it would be a good idea to get something going at Auckland armageddon?

Definitely a good idea. Even if people are just handing out business cards at various fighting-game related locations.

Quote from: fluxcore on March 27, 2009, 11:57:03 AM

Quote from: Smoofikith on March 27, 2009, 11:54:25 AM
Do you think it would be a good idea to get something going at Auckland armageddon?

I wouldn't be surprised at all if a similar event to the ones occurring in Wellington/Christchurch will be happening.

I don't know of any as of yet and if we managed to be the ones hosting it allowing the use of sticks and whatnot no doubt we'd manage to get higher level gameplay, more positive responses shit like that. dunno if it would work though

Quote from: Smoofikith on March 27, 2009, 12:01:15 PM
I don't know of any as of yet and if we managed to be the ones hosting it allowing the use of sticks and whatnot no doubt we'd manage to get higher level gameplay, more positive responses shit like that. dunno if it would work though

They haven't announced anything yet, sure - but then I don't think they announced the Wellington/CHCH ones earlier than a week or so ago either!

Anyone got any good contacts in Armageddon to probe a bit?

I know some people who set up stands, at the least I could find out from them who to talk to

sounds good, if we can get teh hosting then I'm sure we can pull something better off for the community.

The RvB thing can be round robins or a session were we can help out the newer players with questions and tips etc.

I'll get the pricing for it this weekend.

Shit that was alot to read haha....

Keens for a training session at RvB for a few hours whenever its set, me being a nub at SF id like to just have games againest the top players and them evaluate my play and things I could to to improve my game. Ive done these types of things for Halo (building the community, giving new players tips etc) but this communitys alot more mature about things hahaha.

Ill attend the training sessh if it happens and play in the next tourney.

I read the XLAN thread aswell, hopefully that goes ahead, a heads up the organizer can seem like a dick but hes all good

Yay, another person to add to xbox, don't forget to update your profile so you to can get a mean xbox thingy :)

common guys, we need more posts at the Xlan forum if we want them to run a SF4 tournament for us.

OK guys GOOD NEWS!!!!

RvB Will take the 25th April for our event training.
cost: $80 for the day around 6 hours? he said the day so i'm guessing maybe more hehe.
But it will be one of those stands with 4 monitors and such.
Let me know once we get things sorted then we need to put the money together to pay for them. So who's coming? please post.

Now for the Next Tournament. I got sponsors :) damn right bitches muahaha.
They will throw in some awesome prizes :) so heads up for that, I am in the process of sorting this out.

Cool.... I'm in :D

hell yeah im in !!!!

Fuck I hope I got a car by then , some mutha fucker drove head on into me yesterday morning , cars fucked and hes got no insurance . Fuckn idiot .

I'm in too, hope I can pick up some pro skills from you guys so I don't get beaten so badly haha. first post!

Quote from: DangerMouse on March 28, 2009, 07:07:54 PM
I'm in too, hope I can pick up some pro skills from you guys so I don't get beaten so badly haha. first post!

welcome to the site bro! :)

Quote from: DangerMouse on March 28, 2009, 07:07:54 PM
I'm in too, hope I can pick up some pro skills from you guys so I don't get beaten so badly haha. first post!

HEy danger ! Good shit man !

Quote from: B1ackstar Ninja on March 28, 2009, 06:17:59 PM
Fuck I hope I got a car by then , some mutha fucker drove head on into me yesterday morning , cars fucked and hes got no insurance . Fuckn idiot .

Us Hamilton folk practically go by Puke anyway, might be possible to pick you up...

You know I'm in baby. gj hooking us up with the sponsors I'll pay you next time I see you or something

Like ive mentioned, DOWN for the training session and also 100% in for the next touney.

Quote from: fluxcore on March 28, 2009, 10:09:05 PM

Quote from: B1ackstar Ninja on March 28, 2009, 06:17:59 PM
Fuck I hope I got a car by then , some mutha fucker drove head on into me yesterday morning , cars fucked and hes got no insurance . Fuckn idiot .

Us Hamilton folk practically go by Puke anyway, might be possible to pick you up...

chers for the offer man , I might take you up on that . Let you know closer to the date . ;D

Quote from: B1ackstar Ninja on March 28, 2009, 08:35:08 PM

Quote from: DangerMouse on March 28, 2009, 07:07:54 PM
I'm in too, hope I can pick up some pro skills from you guys so I don't get beaten so badly haha. first post!

HEy danger ! Good shit man !

hey man, its been a while, not sure if you're on my list, if not ill add you for some games along with anyone else who doesnt mind playing with a SF newbie haha. But looking forward to this, and sponsorship for a tourney sounds awesome, definitely the way forward for making it bigger and getting good prizes. I'm just amazed how organised and friendly you guys all seem after coming from the Halo community its way different as I'm sure Will would agree, good stuff!

Hah, we're too small to afford being assholes just yet! :)

But yeah, as a general rule Street fighters tend to be an older audience - children of the late 70s-early 80s and whatnot. Plus most of us are in it to meet new people and have fun, not just compare e-peens.

Just need to find lots of fresh blood like yourself to show the light to and train up! :)

Quote from: DangerMouse on March 28, 2009, 11:48:20 PM
I'm just amazed how organised and friendly you guys all seem after coming from the Halo community its way different as I'm sure Will would agree, good stuff!

Hey man, sounds like your on xboxlive so hook us up with your gamer tag!  I'm up for games against anyone.  Just don't be offended if I don't reply back to a game invite straight away, could be playing a fellow NZism okay ;)

Quote from: stereomonkey on March 29, 2009, 12:30:45 AM

Quote from: DangerMouse on March 28, 2009, 11:48:20 PM
I'm just amazed how organised and friendly you guys all seem after coming from the Halo community its way different as I'm sure Will would agree, good stuff!

Hey man, sounds like your on xboxlive so hook us up with your gamer tag!  I'm up for games against anyone.  Just don't be offended if I don't reply back to a game invite straight away, could be playing a fellow NZism okay ;)

Stereo is always playing someone else!  He's our local Street Fighter slut!

Add me a well!

Quote from: zosla on March 28, 2009, 04:06:19 PM
$80 for the day around 6 hours? he said the day so i'm guessing maybe more hehe.
But it will be one of those stands with 4 monitors and such.

Did we want to get the big monitor as well (or maybe just a projector) for random matches (someone mentioned it earlier)? Or are the 4 enough?

since its just training sessions and having fun, those should be sufficient, but depending on how many turns up. We can always add more if we have to on the day.
quote ( Zosla )

so we are going for the 25th of April right?

Yeah! Stick day! 25th or 26th

yeah bring your sticks too please.
whoever can bring them in, good if we have 4

im in =) who are the sponsorships?

Quote from: zosla on March 29, 2009, 11:58:34 PM
yeah bring your sticks too please.
whoever can bring them in, good if we have 4

Do we know if there are ps3s at those pods as well, so ppl with ps3 sticks can bring those?

Quote from: Lennysaurus on March 26, 2009, 03:50:07 PM
lets set some goals and action points.  By Monday we need to have the following information:

1.   The cost of the 4 hour event from RVB (Zosla)
2.   Confirmation of the NZism logo ready for us to use (iMagneto)
3.   Confirmation of any prices for us to make some business cards with the sites url etc on it (ill_bill)
4.      The cost of having a logo printed onto T-shirts and Hoodies (Lenny)
5.      Could someone make a draft poster fo the event much like the poster that was done for the tourney? (Any takers?)

So I'm guessing we only have #1 and #3 sorted. Should we just go ahead and start advertising what we're planning on forums and whatnot, so that people can plan?

Cant help but notice that my name is on number 3. I'll look into it.

At the moment the cost estimates I have got have been about 50 bucks per hoodie unless we can do bulk... which is gonna have to be more than 20 in most cases.

I am waiting for 1 more quote, hopefully it will be slightly more accomodating.

Can we hold off advertising until we have a poster?

Quote from: ILL_BILL on March 30, 2009, 11:17:51 AM
Cant help but notice that my name is on number 3. I'll look into it.

Don't worry man, I've got it sorted.

Quote from: Lennysaurus on March 30, 2009, 11:21:53 AM
At the moment the cost estimates I have got have been about 50 bucks per hoodie

Is that just the print or including the hoodie itself?

Thats printing and the hoodie

Quote from: Lennysaurus on March 30, 2009, 11:27:30 AM
Thats printing and the hoodie

That's actually not so bad... unless the hoodies are shit I guess!

Oh and I reckon light grey for the hoodies would probably look pretty decent...

Quote from: fluxcore on March 30, 2009, 11:33:51 AM
Oh and I reckon light grey for the hoodies would probably look pretty decent...

Yeah I was thinking that too. 

But for you Ive got a special one.  Its a tight pink version with the stomach cut out so it shows off your tummy.  Cool huh?

In other news I have ordered a Purple hat with Gen doing a pose embroidered on the back.  How fucking pimp is that!!

Quote from: Lennysaurus on March 30, 2009, 11:37:07 AM
But for you Ive got a special one.  Its a tight pink version with the stomach cut out so it shows off your tummy.  Cool huh?

In other news I have ordered a Purple hat with Gen doing a pose embroidered on the back.  How fucking pimp is that!!

Too hot bro! Can't wait!

Order me banana pants and yellow eyepatch band thing plz

Sweet the otehr place confirmed $40-00 each.

http://www.handprints.co.nz/hoodies.htm

Check out the one at the top of the page, and thats us.

pink plz. For serious.

Started working on a flyer on the weekend. Still need hi-res NZism and RVB logos though. And correct info obviously haha. I am working on putting more og the 'splatter' effects behind the text at the top.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v364/geneterror/SF4poster.jpg)

Quote from: geneterror on March 30, 2009, 12:14:48 PM
Started working on a flyer on the weekend. Still need hi-res NZism and RVB logos though. And correct info obviously haha. I am working on putting more og the 'splatter' effects behind the text at the top.

Nice work!

The main problem is that we're doing a training session thing rather than a tournament for this event in april, so that'll probably change quite a few elements of that poster!

What do you guys reckon?  Make it 2 dollar entry fee?  Or 5 dollar?

Quote from: Lennysaurus on March 30, 2009, 12:06:24 PM
Sweet the otehr place confirmed $40-00 each.

http://www.handprints.co.nz/hoodies.htm

Check out the one at the top of the page, and thats us.

Any idea how much the premium hoodies (the ones at the bottom - aurora premium) would be?

That's some pro shit man! We really just need to charge enough to cover the venue

So.  To confirm.

The official title for the event will be: "The NZISM Street Fighter IV Grind Session"
Entry Price: $5-00 (Could use this as an opportunity to fundraise for our next tourney and we need to cover the cost of the posters as well as the)
Time: Noon till 6-00pm

Graeme you owe me a new pair of pants as I have just jizzed these ones upon seeing that poster dude.  Fucking rocks.  If you could just change the few things on their eg: take away tourney fix the price etc etc

I was thinking that when everyone pays their money we give them a coloured sticker to wear,  That way we know who has paid and should be playing, and who is just a random scabber.  We could also break it down into two or three different colours.  Eg Red = Pro, Orange = Intermediate, Green = noob.  That way people know who to match up against and what not, and we know who might need help and who won't.  We could also restrict one TV to Green only matches and one to Green and Orange only matches.

If possible, I think it would be useful to pay a little extra and get the big plasma as well, and make that screen a Red only match  screen, which of course we can get all our footage off.  If people through out the day feel that they have misjudged their colour, or through our awesome advice have outgrown the green or orange they can change their colour at anytime through out the day.  Or maybe make it that you can go to the next higher level, but an orange cant go to green, red cant go to orange.

I was thinking getting a whole bunch of random coins and shit to give people after they have paid.  The idea being that you put your coin on top of the TV you want to play on, and wait until your coin is at the front of the que.  Just like in a real arcade.

Haha man all that sounds awesome :)

TU MEKE!

Alright well here ya go, as you can tell I'm not that busy at work today ;) This one looks heaps better.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v364/geneterror/SF4poster-1.jpg)

Someone needs to write me a little blurb to go under the main details about why we are having the event etc. Also I can change around any info you need me to just let me know.

"Training sessions with the NZ's best" is bad grammar. Need to drop that 'the'

Off the top of my head, maybe something like:

"Whether youre new to the game, or a seasoned pro, theres always room for improvement. Learn tips and tricks with NZ's top Street Fighter 4 players. If youre keen to get your gaming to a more competitive level, then NZISM wants YOU in our community."

Although thats almost a bit too 'uncle-sam-recruiting-an-army' kinda thing.

I'm thinking of spamming this in the various forums for advertising:

NZISM is proud to officially announce:

"The NZISM Street Fighter IV Grind Session"

Entry Price:   $5-00
Time:      Noon till 6-00pm
Date:           Saturday, 25th April 2009
Place:      RVB, 155 K' Road, Auckland Central

What is it?:

A chance for Street Fighter enthusiasts old and new to come and challenge each other in a competitive non-tourney environment.  We will have 5 Televisions set up with six button joysticks  and Street Fighter IV running for six hours.  Some of the best World Warriors this country has ever seen will be battling it out.  So if you're an old pro looking to fight stronger opponents or a new warrior looking to learn the hidden secrets that the experts have kept to themselves, The Street Fighter IV Grind Session will have something for everyone with an interest in Street Fighter!!!

What If I have only just picked up the game?  I don't wanna give you five bucks to turn up and get beat down for six hours?:

Never fear!  At the start of the session everyone will be graded into three categories.  Pro, intermediate, and Noobie.  One of the setups will be devoted to newbie matches only so that you can practice against people of equal skill level.  We will also have some of our 15 year veterans about to give tips on improving your gameplay and taking your street fighter to the next level.  If you get bored and feel that you'd like to take on tougher opponents, then you can always upgrade to intermediate and take on tougher foes if you think you can handle it.

Man Im a hardcore world warrior!!  I can beat you down any day using Dan and wearing a blindfold.  I don't wanna turn up and play damn nubs for six hours!:

As mentioned above, at the start we will grade all the pro players.  Much like the Beginner setup, there will also be a Pro setup that only pro graded players will be playing on.  Some of the pros at the session will be people who have devoted themselves to street fighter ever since the first "Hadoken"  rang out through the arcade.  These matches will all be taped and uploaded onto the internet to show the rest of the world how much ass New Zealand can kick in the street fighter scene.  If you think you're the best, then this is the event for you to come and prove it!

For more information visit nzism.alphaism.com and register your interest!

Whether you're new to the game, or a seasoned pro, there's always room for improvement. Learn tips and tricks with NZ's top Street Fighter 4 players. If you're keen to get your gaming to a more competitive level, then NZISM wants YOU in our community.


Finally, NZISM will be making a announcement at the event with regards to the next big competitive fighting game event in New Zealand.  So turn up to find out the announcement live before anyone else!

I've taken out anything relating to xbox 360 just in case we end up using PS3's.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v364/geneterror/SF4poster-2.jpg)

Wow that is great graeme.  As far as I am concerned that is perfect.

Gonna give it till 7-30pm tonight for everyone to give feedback, then Im gonna start spammin forums.  I'll also be making a registration thread too.

It's an honor to have you on my friends list sir Graeme

Fucking sweet work Graeme & Lenny :)

Good stuff, looks great.
I will confirm with RvB the Venue once you guys start to advertise.
So we will have 5 HDTV setup? Ill ask them if we can bring in the PS3 as well and have the other 2 for four HDTV setup as Xbox.
Can you guys confirm and bring 4 sticks for the xBox and I'll talk to Ben and the others for the Ps3 sticks.


I picked this up from somewhere take a read,

Q: Why should I join this tournament? Won't all the 'pros' be there?! I won't have a chance of winning!
A: Because of this.

http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/advanced-players-guide.html

Looks pretty sweet!
I'm keen on coming up for this. I'm sure fluxcore is too.

Quote from: Lennysaurus on March 30, 2009, 11:27:30 AM
Thats printing and the hoodie

Thats cheap as chips !!!!!

Re: PS3 sticks; I'll bring my Hori.

Re: "Grading" players. How is this going to be done, I know it's early days, but in what direction is this to be determined?

Man I am so down for this. . . !!! :)

Quote from: hydrokinesis on March 30, 2009, 06:14:51 PM
Re: PS3 sticks; I'll bring my Hori.

Re: "Grading" players. How is this going to be done, I know it's early days, but in what direction is this to be determined?

Man I am so down for this. . . !!! :)

It will be up to the players to grade themselves, at the start ill give a blurb along these lines.

Green = Noob
Basically SF4 is your first SF.  You only know one guy, and you tend to find yourself mashing alot.

Orange = Intermediate
You have played street fighter games in the past and have yet to get to grips with all of the nuances of SFIV.  If you know how to cancel a normal move into a special move then you should be here.

Red = Pro
You know whats up here.  You are proficient with the game engine and can comfortably beat most player you play online that arent on your friends list.

Sounds good, the poster looks pretty sweet aswell. Ill be thar.  ;D

Quote from: geneterror on March 30, 2009, 01:22:48 PM
Alright well here ya go, as you can tell I'm not that busy at work today ;) This one looks heaps better.

Someone needs to write me a little blurb to go under the main details about why we are having the event etc. Also I can change around any info you need me to just let me know.

Dayyyyum geneterror that shit is tight !  Fuckn good work man , we got some really talented guys in this group !
Big props to you all who are organising and helping out with all this stuff !!!!!!

IN IN IN IN IN IN IN IN IN IN

I NEED TO DO THE PRACTICE LAAAAAA

I grade myself orange.... because i can only do so much lawl.

Cool Poster! The ranking thing is a cool idea too.

Quote from: zosla on March 30, 2009, 09:35:56 PM
I grade myself orange.... because i can only do so much lawl.

Like fuck youre an orange!  lol

Wow, according to that, im orange. I dunno though, could i get a green AND an orange sticker?

Quote from: ILL_BILL on March 31, 2009, 11:15:57 AM
Wow, according to that, im orange. I dunno though, could i get a green AND an orange sticker?

No youd be orange

Oh and also, I was thinking:

a 5 on 5 would be awesome :)

Just some random thing at some dude's house I guess, all recorded and serious (put up some money maybe?), but overall for good times.

Just for us hardcore ppl that want to have some competitive fun :D

I get to be orange right?

Quote from: Smoofikith on March 31, 2009, 11:40:22 AM
I get to be orange right?

Yes...

Green is like flowchart Ken level playing

Oh, and geneterror, can you send me a big version of that poster please? aka printoutable?

fluxcore
at
gmail


cheers

Me too please, the high res poster.

zos_la at hotmail


on teh side note:
I'm also orange too...
I dont button mash... but i can normal move and cancel SOMETIMES :D
guess i fit in the right spot meh :X

Quote from: fluxcore on March 31, 2009, 12:11:41 PM
Oh, and geneterror, can you send me a big version of that poster please? aka printoutable?

fluxcore
at
gmail


cheers

I'll do it tonight if I can. I'll upload a file to Rapidshare though so anyone can grab them.
I'll do three version: one hi-res pdf with bleed, one h-res pdf no bleed and a 800x600 web jpeg.

I improved so much from last tournament that I wanna label myself "RED"

But i have a BIG feeling i'll embarass myself losing to the oranges if I do. (And I probably will)

So I'll put me as Orange.

The better half of the last tournament >>> People on xbox live. Don't gauge your skill against them. And i think everyone will have improved somewhat.

Lenny, any chance of a couple of those hoodies b4 the weekend, or is that too soon?

Just asking because I remembered

Quote
lets set some goals and action points.  By Monday we need to have the following information:

1.   The cost of the 4 hour event from RVB (Zosla)
2.   Confirmation of the NZism logo ready for us to use (iMagneto)
3.   Confirmation of any prices for us to make some business cards with the sites url etc on it (ill_bill)
4.      The cost of having a logo printed onto T-shirts and Hoodies (Lenny)
5.      Could someone make a draft poster fo the event much like the poster that was done for the tourney? (Any takers?)

I'm going to get onto the business cards today (just stealing the logo off mike's original poster since I still don't have the psd...), and was just trying to think what other things need to be done before the weekend.

Quote from: fluxcore on April 19, 2009, 09:40:39 AM
Lenny, any chance of a couple of those hoodies b4 the weekend, or is that too soon?

Just asking because I remembered

Quote
lets set some goals and action points.  By Monday we need to have the following information:

1.   The cost of the 4 hour event from RVB (Zosla)
2.   Confirmation of the NZism logo ready for us to use (iMagneto)
3.   Confirmation of any prices for us to make some business cards with the sites url etc on it (ill_bill)
4.      The cost of having a logo printed onto T-shirts and Hoodies (Lenny)
5.      Could someone make a draft poster fo the event much like the poster that was done for the tourney? (Any takers?)

I'm going to get onto the business cards today (just stealing the logo off mike's original poster since I still don't have the psd...), and was just trying to think what other things need to be done before the weekend.

Major bump and attention needed.

Also, have we got anything for the 'next tournament announcement'

will talk on the day of the grinding session about it.

Quote from: zosla on April 20, 2009, 10:17:19 AM
grinding session

hee hee!

bwhahahahahhahahaha  ;D

on a serious note tho , doesnt it say on the posters you guys will announce it on the day about the new tourney ?

Just my thinking but shouldnt that be all organised before the day so you have something concrete to announce ?

well, we cant have multiple things going on, plus I've been busy.
Ill be organizing it with RvB on the day.

Better be at xlan you fools.  I am flying from Oz to show off my scrubbish Vega after... oh... I still need to pay that.  :-[

Doh!

No Xlan for me, couldn't justify the cost while my fiance and I are still saving for a wedding :(

Me too..saving $$$ 4 depts......and got a wedding to attain.... :'( :'( :'(

boo :(

i hope its gonna be a xlan.. otherwise im going to evo LOL

So Xlan is in Aussie?

Does anyone know when Ego, I mean Evo takes place?

Quote from: CrazyMobius on April 21, 2009, 03:32:29 PM
So Xlan is in Aussie?

Does anyone know when Ego, I mean Evo takes place?

im not sure if your bein sarcastic or not, but xlan is in nz boss.....south aux

lol, i wanna go ego too haha....

im paying, im paying soon.....bills like to bite u in the ass wen u least expect

Quote from: ADism on April 21, 2009, 03:35:58 PM

Quote from: CrazyMobius on April 21, 2009, 03:32:29 PM
So Xlan is in Aussie?

Does anyone know when Ego, I mean Evo takes place?

im not sure if your bein sarcastic or not, but xlan is in nz boss.....south aux

No honestly this whole xlan thing is new to me. And people talking of buying air tickets and such. Xlan should advertise more I've never seen it mentioned anywhere except this message board  ???

XLAN generally doesn't cater to console players. You hear about it a lot in the computer LAN stuff like FPS but console is pretty new to them

Quote from: CrazyMobius on April 21, 2009, 07:18:34 PM

Quote from: ADism on April 21, 2009, 03:35:58 PM

Quote from: CrazyMobius on April 21, 2009, 03:32:29 PM
So Xlan is in Aussie?

Does anyone know when Ego, I mean Evo takes place?

im not sure if your bein sarcastic or not, but xlan is in nz boss.....south aux

No honestly this whole xlan thing is new to me. And people talking of buying air tickets and such. Xlan should advertise more I've never seen it mentioned anywhere except this message board  ???

aww fair enuf....would be quite confusing.

but yeah check for the website through google....might help you with things

arnt we gonna go ozzhadou for marvel?
i wouldnt mind attend their street fighter IV :)

Quote from: iMagneto on April 21, 2009, 10:54:09 PM
arnt we gonna go ozzhadou for marvel?
i wouldnt mind attend their street fighter IV :)

Pls bring along with ya DC 4 some MVC2 ya cheers

Xlan has been around since 2001??? i'm pretty sure since I attended A3 which was in 2003 for Counter Strike. It was practically a show room full of PC which was all linked up to each other, lots of leeching and gaming. Apart from that it was the real tournament which could last up to 13 hours per day for 3 days. Most none Aucklanders slept at teh rooms/hall provided. Xlan has always catered  fro FPS games Such as CS,Unreal COD etc...

It has always been a big scene but not to console players until recent years.